Re: [ccp4bb] SAD phasing

2016-12-28 Thread Kay Diederichs
onvert .phs to .mtz ,use the .mtz file refine the initial > structure model? By the way , what's the difference between this density map > with the density map modified after phaser-EP density modification? Thanks a > lot!!! > Best Regard > Shijun > >> -原始邮件- &

Re: [ccp4bb] SAD phasing

2016-12-28 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Shijun, hkl2map is a very nice graphical user interface that makes it easy to use the SHELX programs; I've used it successfully around 3A. You find documentation and download information for SHELX C/D/E and hklmap in the CCP4 community wiki, at

Re: [ccp4bb] New BUILT of XDS for academic users

2016-12-10 Thread Kay Diederichs
CH FILE IN "STRONGHKL1"". xds_par then >get paused. I'm using virtualbox ubuntu 16.04 on win 8.1 host. I haven't >test it on other platform though. Rebooting the machine can help to get >around. If someone also see similar error message maybe they can help >verify. >

Re: [ccp4bb] Choosing test set for twin refinement, with multiple operators

2016-12-06 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Andre, you should first optimize your data processing as much as possible ... try different programs, and do test refinements against the data they give you. Unfortunately Rwork/Rfree is a poor indicator unless the Wilson B is the same; what is much more robust is the correlation

[ccp4bb] New BUILT of XDS for academic users

2016-12-06 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all, there is a new BUILT of the XDS package available for academic users from http://xds.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de . This fixes a number of problems with the VERSION of Nov 1, and all users of that version should update. We believe that this has a better background treatment in particular

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with lattice disorder / tNCS / whatever ?!

2016-11-16 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Sabine, my first guess would be that you are overlooking half of the reflections meaning the cell has really twice the volume. Is the list of difference vectors in IDXREF.LP clean in this respect? Best, Kay On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 17:26:59 +0100, Sabine Schneider

Re: [ccp4bb] intensity statistics and twinning

2016-10-28 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Hauke, so your refinement results in P1 seem to say it's untwinned. I don't see (but I may be overlooking something?) the evidence, from what you write, that it could not be P21 or P2, because any P2 or P21 structure can be refined in P1 (but of course not the other way round). In other

Re: [ccp4bb] intensity statistics and twinning

2016-10-28 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Hauke, the conversion of intensities to amplitudes is an area with unsatisfactory solutions, and the approaches of (and the assumptions made by) the different programs differ. Low-resolution data are often anisotropic, which adds difficulties. You could try CCP4 truncate/ctruncate and

Re: [ccp4bb] New version SHELXL 2016/6 and PDB2INS

2016-10-26 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Phil, the error message occurs because your glibc is too old for this binary. The glibc cannot easily be updated, it is tied to the distribution, in your case RHEL6. A newer kernel does not change this, nor would an update to RHEL 6.8 This is why distributed Linux software should be built

Re: [ccp4bb] sfall bug?

2015-07-07 Thread Kay Diederichs
Just a few observations: I ran echo MODE SFCALC XYZIN\\n SYMM P21\\n RESO 30 3 | sfall xyzin a.pdb hklout temp.mtz a.log and echo MODE SFCALC XYZIN\\n SYMM P21\\n RESO 30 3 | sfall xyzin b.pdb hklout temp.mtz b.log and looked at a.log and b.log They differ only as follows: a.log has First

Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-03 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Dale, On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:45:45 -0700, Dale Tronrud de...@daletronrud.com wrote: While I was puzzling over an entry in the PDB some years ago (since obsoleted) I noticed that all the high resolution amplitudes were equal to 11.0! This was before CC1/2 but for this structure it would

Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-03 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:25:07 -0400, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu wrote: My take on this- No one has been willing to specify a cutoff (and probably there is no rigorous way to mathematically define the cutoff) and say If CC* (or CCfree or whatever) is below X then it will not improve your

Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:15:58 +0100, Eric Karg harvard...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I have a dataset processed in XDS to 2.3 A (based on CC1/2). I'm trying to do paired refinement to determine the optimal resolution cutoff. Here is what I get at different resolutions set in Phenix: Final

Re: [ccp4bb] .sfrm format problem

2015-06-10 Thread Kay Diederichs
I don't think the .sfrm ending means that the data can or can not be read by non-Bruker software. The crucial difference is between warped and unwarped data, if I understand correctly. XDS (and I think MOSFLM) can only process unwarped data. As Harry says, there is an unwarping utility from

Re: [ccp4bb] Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac

2015-05-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
if it only occurs with the Mac version of Word: a workaround would be to set up a virtual machine on your Mac in which you run Windows and its version of Word. Anybody tried this? Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS Rmeas in space group determination

2015-05-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Chen, if Rmeas is high (like 50 and up) even in P1 then maybe the integration was not right, or the indexing is offset by 1 in h or k or l ? To check the former, look at FRAME.cbf and see if the predictions match the spots. To test the latter try echo CENTRE | pointless XDS_ASCII.HKL

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS INP

2015-05-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Tue, 12 May 2015 17:24:18 -0500, Gerd Rosenbaum rosenb...@anl.gov wrote: ... But no big deal. It's a -1 in one of the axes definitions. There are, as you stated, many more axes definitions and they depend on the geometry of the end station. E.g., at the SBC, the orientation of otherwise

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS INP

2015-05-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
According to http://homes.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/html_doc/xds_parameters.html#ROTATION_AXIS= the definition of a positive value in the ROTATION_AXIS= line is: When looking along the axis, the crystal would rotate clockwise when proceeding to the next data image. There is of

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS INP

2015-05-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear LU, yes, your spot_15.png looks good. What worries me now is the table INDEX_ QUALITY DELTAXD YD X Y Z DH DK DL ORIGIN 0 0 0 1.70.1997.7 1020.9 0.0010 0.0005 1.02190.38 0.510.25 0 -1 0 3.00.4

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS INP

2015-05-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
You found it! XDS.INP needs ROTATION_AXIS=-1 0 0 with this setting, IDXREF indexes more than half of the reflections: REFINED VALUES OF DIFFRACTION PARAMETERS DERIVED FROM 10956 INDEXED SPOTS REFINED PARAMETERS: AXIS BEAM ORIENTATION CELL STANDARD DEVIATION OF SPOTPOSITION (PIXELS)

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS INP

2015-05-11 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi LU, the reason why IDXREF is not indexing smoothly is that the spot positions in your SPOT.XDS are not very meaningful - you pick up a lot of noise! I plotted your SPOT.XDS using %%:-/tmp/luo% gnuplot gnuplot set size square gnuplot set out tmp.png gnuplot set term png nocrop medium size

Re: [ccp4bb] advice on anomoulous data collection strategy---low resolution, radiation damage, high mosaicity

2015-04-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:15:17 +, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: I have processed test data sets (measured at the SLS) which have only a few non-zero pixels on each frame. Can be nicely integrated - but it was insulin. What were the values of the non-zero pixels, I wonder?

Re: [ccp4bb] advice on anomoulous data collection strategy---low resolution, radiation damage, high mosaicity

2015-04-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:00:12 +, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: Finally, there is simply no downside in collecting more degrees with proportionally lower dose on the Pilatus. Merging the data recovers the _same_ signal. It has only advantages - so many that I won't write

Re: [ccp4bb] advice on anomoulous data collection strategy---low resolution, radiation damage, high mosaicity

2015-04-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:02:01 +, Antonio Ariza antonio.ar...@path.ox.ac.uk wrote: Hi, I agree with Kay, try to fry your native crystals to get the highest overall resolution possible, since you mention my name in your sentence: no, this is not what I think (nor said). Burning/frying the

Re: [ccp4bb] advice on anomoulous data collection strategy---low resolution, radiation damage, high mosaicity

2015-04-17 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi, I'd say using a Pilatus detector in fine-slicing mode and lowdose/high multiplicity will give you better chances to solve the structure. The right strategy makes a difference ... Best, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] advice on anomoulous data collection strategy---low resolution, radiation damage, high mosaicity

2015-04-17 Thread Kay Diederichs
-2926tel:%2B1-410-955-2926 http://lupo.jhsph.edu On Apr 17, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.demailto:kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Hi Jürgen, sorry - that's what I get when mailing while boarding ... No, I'd just collect 360 degrees, and if the crystal is still ok

Re: [ccp4bb] Sortwater NCS Matrix input

2015-04-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 17:52:44 -0400, Shane Caldwell shane.caldwel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ccp4bb, I'm trying to solve a problem I never quite figured out in the past. I'd like to use the *sortwater* utility to send my picked waters to various protein chains, and to give them the same residue

Re: [ccp4bb] nVidia quadro

2015-04-01 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:04:31 -0400, Andreas Schenk andreas_sch...@hms.harvard.edu wrote: On 3/25/2015 18:10, Kay Diederichs wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:16:55 -0400, David Schuller schul...@cornell.edu wrote: You could check the nVidia page of officially supported displays. It includes

Re: [ccp4bb] nVidia quadro

2015-03-25 Thread Kay Diederichs
Sorry to come late into the discussion, and just to mention: it would be wrong if readers of CCP4BB get the impression that Quadro cards that support quad buffered stereo have to be high-end. To the contrary, an entry-class Quadro K620 together with a €250 Nvidia 3D Vision 2 compatible monitor

Re: [ccp4bb] nVidia quadro

2015-03-25 Thread Kay Diederichs
that a lot of manufacturers are marketing their monitors as 3D Vision2 ready or 3D capable just because they support running at 120 Hz, even if they don't have a built-in emitter. Best, Andreas On 25.03.2015 05:16, Kay Diederichs wrote: Sorry to come late into the discussion, and just

[ccp4bb] March 1 version of the XDS package

2015-03-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all, release notes of the new version are at http://xds.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/html_doc/Release_Notes.html . There are improvements in XDS for weak data and in XSCALE for serial crystallography applications. Furthermore, the multi-segment refinement was overhauled (mainly affecting the

Re: [ccp4bb] Higher Rmerge at lower resolution

2015-03-01 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Veronica, as others have said, at RT the radicals travel much further than at cryo temperature, so your lateral shifts are probably not sufficient. But it is not clear to me that radiation damage is to blame at all. To me it sounds like you might have to mask your beamstop better, or you

Re: [ccp4bb] collection strategy to collect the intersection with a reference set.

2015-02-24 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Francis, XDS (XPLAN) just prints tables. Instead of looking in these for the range that maximizes the total completeness, you could just minimize the total completeness. This would maximize the intersection. HTH, Kay On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:37:05 -0500, Francis Reyes

Re: [ccp4bb] P3212--1's in Space Group Names?

2015-02-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hmm, placeholder for me does not seem to emphasize enough the role that this number plays in the space group names. My understanding (but I fail to remember where I read this ...) is that the first number is the order of the rotation (i.e. 6,4,3,2 or 1) of the unique unit cell axis (often the

Re: [ccp4bb] PHASER MR solution

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Jeorge, you'll find some information about this in http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Space_group_determination . A practical and easy way is described in http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Pointless HTH, Kay On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:24:27

Re: [ccp4bb] extracting PHENIX structures

2015-01-25 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Patrick, I'd do the following: - go to www.rcsb.org and choose Advanced Search - choose All/Experimental Type/Molecule Type, choose Experimental Method and set to X-ray - click the + next to Add Search Criteria - in the pulldown menu, choose Software and enter Phenix (leave as contains) -

Re: [ccp4bb] active 3D monitors: successor of Asus VG278HR?

2015-01-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
Having configured my CentOS-7 workstation for Stereo today, I have also updated the Stereo article in the CCP4 wiki ( http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo ). It turns out that there seem to be 8 active monitors (i.e. built-in emitter) that can be bought in Germany

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Rohit Kumar, I prefer the term multiplicity instead of redundancy because the latter has a connotation of not really needed any more. The relation then is multiplicity = c * number_of_frames * oscillation_range where the constant c depends mainly on the space group. HTH, Kay On Sun,

Re: [ccp4bb] query regarding interchanging cell axis

2014-12-30 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi, I have difficulties to comprehend your description. I understand - most crystals grow in P21212, with cell a=140 , b=110, c=44 - some crystals grow in P21212, with cell a=110 , b=140, c=44 Is that correct? If so, can you refine the structures? To what R-values, at which resolution? The

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS orientation matrix inconsistent with Mosflm, DENZO

2014-12-29 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:37:22 -0600, Igor Petrik petr...@illinois.edu wrote: ... DIRECT BEAM COORDINATES (REC. ANGSTROEM) 0.003134 0.005401 1.020962 DETECTOR COORDINATES (PIXELS) OF DIRECT BEAM1230.87 1260.93 DETECTOR ORIGIN (PIXELS) AT 1226.25 1252.96 CRYSTAL

[ccp4bb] XDS and XDSGUI latest versions

2014-12-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
is in the Installation article in XDSwiki. best wishes, Kay -- Kay Diederichshttp://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de email: kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.deTel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183 Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz This e-mail is digitally signed. If your

Re: [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS

2014-11-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
to consider a range of crystal symmetries as it is possible that some strategies which are safe in PG 422 (say) are not in PG 2. Best wishes Graeme On Wed Nov 12 2014 at 10:07:10 PM Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Hi Wolfram, it took me a while until I realized

Re: [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS

2014-11-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
as it is possible that some strategies which are safe in PG 422 (say) are not in PG 2. Best wishes Graeme On Wed Nov 12 2014 at 10:07:10 PM Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Hi Wolfram, it took me a while until I realized that you mean overfitting when you said o-word. You

Re: [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS

2014-11-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS Hello all, in a discussion https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1307L=CCP4BBH=1P=186901 on this board, Kay Diederichs questioned the effect of scaling data

Re: [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS

2014-11-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:32:04 +, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: ... It then, in a second step, re-determines all scale factors (exactly as CORRECT does for the individual data sets), at the exact same supporting points that CORRECT used. (This avoids over-fitting which

Re: [ccp4bb] To scale or not to scale: XDS_ASCII.HKL input to POINTLESS/AIMLESS

2014-11-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
against the once (CORRECT) scaled or twice (CORRECT+AIMLESS) scaled data? Thank you, Wolfram On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Hi Tim, this is incorrect. XSCALE determines the relative scale and B in a first step (this is what you describe

Re: [ccp4bb] incorrect R-factor calculation in sftools

2014-10-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
Tim, I would not consider this as incorrect! What sftools calculates is R_scale, a symmetric version of an R-value. Makes sense when comparing two data sets, or two model amplitudes. Clearly, it gives values which differ from model R values. But at least it defines what it prints out. I put

Re: [ccp4bb] I222 - P22121 space-group ambiguity

2014-10-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Florian, a couple of things come to my mind: a) you have to be careful in your use of XDS; if you specify space group number 18 it will use P 21 21 2 as space group, whereas you seem to use the ordering abc and call the space group P 2 21 21. (Not long ago, I tried to bring this up on this

Re: [ccp4bb] experimental phasing + MR

2014-10-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Gabriel, what you want to do is called MRSAD - use the partial MR model to find the sites, combine the phase information, and complete the model. There are hits with the keyword MRSAD if you search on phenix-online.org HTH, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] Calculate average B-factor?

2014-10-05 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:13:14 +0200, Jose Manuel Duarte jose.dua...@psi.ch wrote: Well, if you simply replace that beauty by this one: grep ^ATOM filename.cif | awk '{print $15}' | awk '{s+=$1;} END {print s/NR;}' the problem with this is that it will break if there is any B-factor of 100 or

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] Calculate average B-factor?

2014-10-05 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:54:16 +0100, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: grep ^ATOM filename.cif | awk '{print $15}' | awk '{s+=$1;} END {print s/NR;}' the problem with this is that it will break if there is any B-factor of 100 or higher, because then the blank will be missing

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group numbers

2014-10-04 Thread Kay Diederichs
of the cell axes. This is my last message in this meanwhile highly confusing thread. best, Kay Am 03.10.14 um 17:13 schrieb Ian Tickle: Hi Kay On 2 October 2014 15:04, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de mailto:kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Once again, citing from

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group numbers

2014-10-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:29:02 +0100, Phil Evans p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Be careful: the International Tables space group number may be ambiguous. For example sg number 18 may refer to P 21 21 2 or its permuted settings P 21 2 21 or P 2 21 21, if you follow the proper IUCr convention that

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group numbers

2014-10-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 11:38:08 +0100, Phil Evans p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: How does XDS decide on eg P 21 21 2 when say c b a? The initial indexing may decide that the cell fits a primitive orthorhombic system, but I presume that it will then have some convention, probably a b c, since the

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group numbers

2014-10-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
. thanks, Kay Cheers -- Ian On 2 October 2014 10:25, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:29:02 +0100, Phil Evans p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Be careful: the International Tables space group number may be ambiguous. For example sg number 18 may refer

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group numbers

2014-10-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 16:00:30 +0100, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 October 2014 13:51, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: I don't see any sticking to initial indexing as worthwhile to worry about, since in the first integration, P1 is often used anyway

Re: [ccp4bb] XDSGUI @ OSX 10.9.5 (13F34)

2014-09-23 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Jürgen, I just checked, and generate_XDS.INP works for me as it should. My Mac is also running 10.9.5 since Sep 20, and it updated the Command Line Tools (OS X 10.9) to Version 6.0 on the same date. generate_XDS.INP certainly depends on the Command Line Tools so you may want to make sure

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS, refinement not converge

2014-09-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
Charles, your posting does not provide enough detail to base advice on. First of all, it's a warning and probably there is no reason to worry - but one has to look at the .LP files to be sure. Second, it is not clear whether the warning is printed by IDXREF or by INTEGRATE. If it's IDXREF

Re: [ccp4bb] wilson B in xds vs. truncate.

2014-08-27 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Yarrow, XDS does the following: Data is divided into resolution shells and a straight line A - 2*B*SS is fitted to log(I), where SS = mean of (sin(THETA)/LAMBDA)**2 in shell I= mean reflection intensity in shell BO = (A - logI)/(2*SS) The value of B is reported (above the

Re: [ccp4bb] random half data sets

2014-08-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Mike, this requires scaled but unmerged data, and there are few programs that support unmerged MTZ files. So it is probably necessary to write your own program(s), that process XDS_ASCII.HKL or XSCALE.HKL. Or you start by extracting from AIMLESS code. HTH, Kay On Tue, 12 Aug 2014

Re: [ccp4bb] Heavy Atom Phasing

2014-07-28 Thread Kay Diederichs
Rhys, since you can obtain good native crystals, I would try Xenon phasing. I have recently heard several success stories at the Australian Synchrotron, and it just seems to be a straightforward and rational way. Molecular Replacement should also be an option. I did this with beta-barrel

Re: [ccp4bb] merging of reflection with identical indices

2014-06-11 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Wolfram, just want to point out that the mathematics of what you want to do is conceptually really simple - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weighted_arithmetic_mean#Dealing_with_variance . Programs like aimless or others (e.g. xdsconv could also be used) just implement the two formulas

Re: [ccp4bb] experimental phasing at low resolution

2014-06-03 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Vijay, I think your data may be good enough to solve the substructure and get phases, but 1) you should be using the latest versions of SHELXC SHELXD SHELXE - it seems you are using SHELXD-2006/3 . 2) you could try more cycles (100 is on the low side) 3) you might want to try searching for

Re: [ccp4bb] Reprocess data with new resolution cutoff?

2014-05-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Thomas, I too would use the data out to 2.55A, as you did. The main point is that the 2.45A model produces a worse Rfree (30.16%) at 2.55A than the 2.55A model does (30.03%). And this tendency is confirmed for the 2.35A model, so there's no point in going beyond 2.55A. best, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Almudena, if you follow the recommendations given in the Difficult datasets article on XDSwiki, your problem would have a good chance to be solved. best wishes, Kay On Mon, 19 May 2014 18:18:46 +0200, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra maps.fa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am looking for

Re: [ccp4bb] Xia2 / XDS issues

2014-05-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Tony, I renamed your LP_01.tmp to INTEGRATE.LP and ran XDSGUI - this shows nicely that after frame 150 things fall over. So pls try the recommendations in the Difficult datasets article of XDSwiki. Normally you should not need to run two processing jobs; just prevent refinement from

Re: [ccp4bb] Reprocess data with new resolution cutoff?

2014-05-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Thomas, strictly speaking, there is no need to re-process the data (because it wouldn't change the data anyway). It may even be that the data beyond 2.55A contain some signal (CC1/2 should tell you about that), which future refinement programs can use - so you could deposit at the RCSB all

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Fellow: Data Processing and Merging in Serial Crystallography

2014-05-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
including the development of advanced beamline instrumentation and crystallographic methods, as well as structural biology projects in collaboration with the Biomolecular Research Group at PSI and external partners. In collaboration with Prof. Kay Diederichs at University of Konstanz, we

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group problem

2014-05-08 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi, please post the pointless table Analysing rotational symmetry in lattice group P 6/m m m. This gives a quite clear information about the presence/absence of rotational symmetry axes. Look at at the following example Analysing rotational symmetry in lattice group P 6/m m m

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Space group problem

2014-05-08 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Thu, 8 May 2014 16:56:01 +0200, Christophe Wirth christophe.wi...@biochemie.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Dear all, To add another bit to the discussion, I would say that an increase of Rmerge and Rmeas is just expected in such a case, isn't it? According to your tables, in P1, the multiplicity

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Roberto, for my taste the answers so far have not mentioned (or I did not understand them) that there is a distinction between indicators of the precision of merged data, and those for the precision of unmerged data. It is not possible to directly compare (or equate) indicators of one

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:33:30 +0200, Bernhard Rupp hofkristall...@gmail.com wrote: [There is] a distinction between indicators of the precision of merged data, and those for the precision of unmerged data. Let's take a step back - definitions matter: (i) We have multiple observations of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Ed, your example seems to be designed to show that the average of reciprocal values is not the same as the reciprocal of an average value? If that is what you are alluding to, then please not that the (relatively narrow) Wilson distribution of intensities has the effect of making the

Re: [ccp4bb] jiffy for analyzing spot.xds?

2014-04-15 Thread Kay Diederichs
yes, and http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Generate_adx does this for all frames contributing to SPOT.XDS. HTH, Kay On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:38:23 +0100, T. Nakane tn...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Dear Francis, You can visualize SPOT.XDS with adxv. Since column 3 of SPOT.XDS is

Re: [ccp4bb] error xds

2014-04-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
It means that there exists a technical problem that probably has nothing directly to do with your data and XDS: the program tried to read data that could not be read. I would guess that the disk is full, or your quota exceeded. Hope this helps, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] error xds

2014-04-02 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 17:28:48 +0200, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra maps.fa...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, I missed this part of the error message: !!! ERROR !!! AUTOMATIC DETERMINATION OF SPOT SIZE PARAMETERS HAS FAILED. YOU MAY RESTART THIS STEP AFTER SPECIFYING VALUES IN XDS.INP FOR:

Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble with conversion from HKL to CCP4 file format

2014-03-27 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi, I added some explanation for the XSCALE output to the XDSwiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/xdswiki/index.php/Xdsconv#explanation_of_typical_output . hope this helps, Kay

[ccp4bb] account creation for CCP4wiki (and XDSwiki)

2014-03-12 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all, today we re-opened account creation for CCP4wiki (and XDSwiki). It had been closed since we were hit by spammers (like e.g. PyMolwiki), but we recently discovered a method that helps to prove that the account is really created by a a human being - as opposed to a computer program

Re: [ccp4bb] High Rwork/Rfree vs. Resolution

2014-02-23 Thread Kay Diederichs
oops, thanks for correcting me! Kay On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:28:31 +, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Hi Kay means, of course, the ACA meeting in Albuquerque, not the IUCr in Montreal!

Re: [ccp4bb] High Rwork/Rfree vs. Resolution

2014-02-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
I agree with the general points that Mark makes. For the basic problem to find out whether the model quality (and R-values) is limited by the data quality, you can compare CCwork with CC* - if CCwork is significantly lower than CC*, then this means that either your model could in principle be

Re: [ccp4bb] High Rwork/Rfree vs. Resolution

2014-02-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
Projects and problems like this are clearly a justification for asking to deposit not only the results from data processing, but also the raw data frames. These would allow developers to improve the models underlying their algorithms, and to find those corner cases where the algorithms break.

Re: [ccp4bb] What really happens in XDSCONV?

2014-02-15 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:25:36 +, Derek Logan derek.lo...@biochemistry.lu.se wrote: Hi Tim, I would actually recommend using pointless (or xprep) instead of xdsconv. It is much easier to use and maybe even less error prone. I take the point about pointless but XPREP is commercial software

Re: [ccp4bb] What really happens in XDSCONV?

2014-02-15 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:50:43 +, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: pointless is a good program, and I also use it, to clarify: I use pointless for space group determination. I don't use it for producing multi-record MTZ files, since I use XDSCONV.

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
) and it vanishes forever. Are people suggesting we abandon an empirically proven mechanism merely to save me the need for this tiny hand-movement? phx On 14/02/2014 07:19, Kay Diederichs wrote: Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page ! The idea is that everybody benefits: experienced crystallographers/biologists can concentrate on the new and difficult questions coming up on the bulletin board, and novices find

Re: [ccp4bb] high Rwork / Rfree after MR

2014-02-05 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Shanti Pal Gangwar, based on the information you give, this does not sound like solved structure to me. By the way, the ACA conference at the end of May will feature a session data processing with the pros, where difficult projects will be analyzed, and hopefully structures like this

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning fun

2014-01-29 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Bert, as Dirk has pointed out, if P622 is the correct space group, then the twinning statistics printed out if you process in P6 are meaningless. Intensity statistics, like the ratio of I^2/I^2 , can be misleading if there is (e.g. pseudo-translational) NCS in the crystal; however, the

Re: [ccp4bb] Examples of multiple ASU copies with different conformations

2014-01-29 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Shane, some crystal forms of trimeric AcrB (a multi-drug resistance secondary transporter) have 3 (or 6) monomers in the ASU and these are substantially different, which suggests how the protein functions. One reference is e.g. Seeger et al. (2006) Structural Asymmetry of AcrB Trimer

Re: [ccp4bb] Wrong Space Group?

2013-12-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 19:44:44 +, D Bonsor dbon...@ihv.umaryland.edu wrote: Dear D, I agree with Tim and Jürgen that a) the map after Phaser, and before refinement is the most unbiased and should be used for sequence assignment. b) there may be a sequence register shift error that is

Re: [ccp4bb] Stereo monitor

2013-11-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
I'm using a 24 BenQ XL2420TX (emitter builit-in; price 500€) monitor connected to the DisplayPort of a Quadro FX 380 card. Works very well on 64bit ScientificLinux 6.4 with the kmod-nvidia driver from ElRepo. Please also see http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo .

Re: [ccp4bb] Fix cell dimensions

2013-11-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Niu, concerning XDS: there is no way, using just XDS.INP, to force the IDXREF step to use a cell that is not compatible with the reflections that COLSPOT found. But I can think of two ways to reach your goal (even if I believe that crystallographically it makes no sense to ignore every

Re: [ccp4bb] 100% Rmerge in high resolution shell

2013-11-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
-handicapped times. It is entirely possible that all this is exactly what you said, just with different wording. But I guess more wording is still needed given that people keep asking about Rmerge. Cheers, Ed. On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 14:22 +, Kay Diederichs wrote: Hi Jim, of course the issue

Re: [ccp4bb] Triclinic solution for a dataset with pseudo-translational symmetry, possible pseudo-centering and possible pseudo-merohedral twinning. How to proceed?

2013-10-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:28:48 -0500, Stefan Gajewski sgajew...@gmail.com wrote: ... 5) tetartohedral twinning? what refinement software is able to deal with that? Refmac HTH, Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] R-factor for radiation damage (R_d)

2013-10-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Daniel, A very good question. I have seen R_d plots jumping up and down, most often in low-symmetry space groups. I think the mountains are due to residual systematic differences between symmetry-related observations, differences that the scaling could not compensate for whatever reason.

Re: [ccp4bb] High Rsyms between 5-7 A

2013-10-15 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Ursula, if you look at the Wilson plot, you see a minimum near 6A resolution. This means that in the range 7-5A, intensities are low, and Rsyms are therefore elevated. best, Kay On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:52:03 -0700, Ursula Schulze-Gahmen uschulze-gah...@lbl.gov wrote: Here is some more

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree stuck

2013-10-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
Are you certain that the data are not twinned? HTH Kay

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree stuck

2013-10-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
at 1.7 � it is 239%. Do I have enough data to justify 1.7 � resolution? Are those Rfactor values are justified with this resolution?Thanking you DCB On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Are you certain that the data are not twinned? HTH

Re: [ccp4bb] x-ray diffraction data analysis (XDS)

2013-09-01 Thread Kay Diederichs
The HKL2000 stats look very untypical to me. I wonder what the completeness is. For the XDS processing, have you tried the hints given in the Optimization article in XDSwiki, in particular recycling of GXPARM.XDS and using the *_E.S.D. parameters as found in INTEGRATE.LP ? According to your

Re: [ccp4bb] x-ray diffraction data analysis (XDS)

2013-09-01 Thread Kay Diederichs
I forgot: you should be using FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE

[ccp4bb] Vacancy: Professor for Biophysics at University of Konstanz

2013-08-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
-konstanz.de/stellen or by contacting Mr. Hanns Fahlbusch by e-mail: hanns.fahlbu...@uni-konstanz.de . = An application cover form (PDF) can be downloaded from http://www.uni-konstanz.de/stellenangebote/?cont=stellauswseite=2013/136id=3 . -- Kay Diederichshttp

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