Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It would be possible for the deposition sites to run a few simple tests to at least find cases where intensities are labelled as amplitudes or vice versa - the truncate plots of moments and cumulative intensities at least would show something was wrong. Eleanor Wladek Minor wrot Dear All,

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-03-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I presume you have done density modification after calculating the exptl phases? If you use REFMAC to refine your partial model with the exptl/density modified phase restraints your FWT PHWT fourier coefficients already use the combined phase. I am not sure how to choose a damping factor. If

Re: [ccp4bb] cl.exe

2009-03-12 Thread Herbert J. Bernstein
Have you considered gcc under MINGW? It produced more stable code that runs under more versions of windows than CL. = Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 Idle Hour

Re: [ccp4bb] cl.exe

2009-03-12 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Bernhard Did you try this: http://download.corruptedfilerepair.com/post/2008/07/02/clexe-Download-F ile-clexe.aspx (note that after clicking on the Download Link #7: Download CL.EXE link, the actual download link in case it doesn't start automatically, which it didn't for me, is below the

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Eleanor, That is a useful suggestion, but in the case of 3ftt it would not have helped: the amplitudes would have looked as healthy as can be (they were calculated!), and it was the associated Sigmas that had absurd values, being in fact phases in degrees. A sanity check on some

[ccp4bb] Refmac5 and Pseudo-merohedral twinning

2009-03-12 Thread Kim, Walter
Hi, I am currently trying to work with perfectly twinned data and have a starting model that I found through phaser. In trying to refine the model against the data, I noticed that Refmac5 has a twin refinement option that performs some sort of automatic refinement against the found twin laws

Re: [ccp4bb] cl.exe

2009-03-12 Thread harry
Just to second this, and point out that with Mingw cross compilers, you can build Windows executables on Linux or OSX that run on all versions of Windows from 95 to Vista... (and might even run on 3.1, but I don't have a 3.1 box to test on). Have you considered gcc under MINGW? It produced more

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac5 and Pseudo-merohedral twinning

2009-03-12 Thread Pavol
Dear Kim, yes, Refmac handles pseudo-merohedral twinning. The procedure is fully automatic and there is not much to change but the documention can be found here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/refmac5/keywords/keywords_5_5.html#Twin Pavol

[ccp4bb] CALL FOR ESRF SYNCHROTRON BEAM TIME WITH ONLINE DEHUMIDIFIER AT BEAMLINE ID14-2

2009-03-12 Thread David FLOT
CALL FOR ESRF SYNCHROTRON BEAM TIME WITH ONLINE DEHUMIDIFIER AT BEAMLINE ID14-2 Proposal Submission Deadline: 31st March 2009 Beamtime will be available from the 14th to the 17th

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Wladek Minor
Eleanor, Please note that so far CIF structure factors files were not sent by deposition site for verification to authors. I spoke with Helen and John last Saturday and they promised me to change that policy. Alternatively, one can check his/hers new deposit on every Wednesday morning. Best

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Wladek Minor
Dear Eleanor and Gerard, PDB testing is performed on MTZ file and can not detect conversion errors. Wladek At 10:03 AM 3/12/2009, Gerard Bricogne wrote: Dear Eleanor, That is a useful suggestion, but in the case of 3ftt it would not have helped: the amplitudes would have looked as healthy as

[ccp4bb] images

2009-03-12 Thread Garib Murshudov
Dear Gerard and all MX crystallographers As I see there are two problems. 1) Minor problem: Sanity, semantic and other checks for currently available data. It should not be difficult to do. Things like I/sigma, some statistical analysis expected vs observed statistical behaviour should

Re: [ccp4bb] Update X11 in macbook

2009-03-12 Thread Andreas Förster
William G. Scott wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Raja Dey wrote: Dear Friends, snip 2. If I update X11, whether it will cause any problem to the existing programs? You run the risk of having them work, This risk is marginal. The current 'stable' xquartz 2.3.2 still flickers the

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Frank von Delft
Gerard Bricogne wrote: Looking forward to the archiving of the REAL data ... i.e. the images. Using any other form of data is like having to eat out of someone else's dirty plate! That may be so -- but if I'm hungry now, I just pop it in the sink -- I don't publish a call for tenders on

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Dale Tronrud
This thread has evolved into two different topics. Just to clarify: 1) There is a need for additional validation of structure factor depositions. My recollection is that the output of SF Check is available to the depositor via ADIT on the RCSB site. I have found that report to be

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Frank, Thank you for your answer, as unimitable as ever. We do of course have to wash one plate at a time when we each feel the pinch of hunger; but as we do so we should not forget that the PDB is the Central Planning Office, and that the order for that industrial-scale dishwasher has

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Dale, 1) There is a need for additional validation of structure factor depositions. PHENIX has tools for this: 1) phenix.cif_as_mtz will convert the PDB data file with diffrcation data into MTZ file. It automatically will figure out if the data are X-ray: Iobs or Fobs, or

Re: [ccp4bb] Update X11 in macbook

2009-03-12 Thread William G. Scott
On Mar 12, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Andreas Förster wrote: Every night I pray to a different god for version 2.4 to actually work. Prayer might be making it worse, depending upon the wrath and vindictiveness of the imaginary deity of choice:

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Dale, On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:07:05AM -0700, Dale Tronrud wrote: This thread has evolved into two different topics. Just to clarify: 1) There is a need for additional validation of structure factor depositions. My recollection is that the output of SF Check is

[ccp4bb] Fragment Screening kit

2009-03-12 Thread Dinesh Palanivelu
Dear all, We have been trying to crystalize a membrane protein in which the function is unknown. We got some initial crystal hits and we are in the process of optimization. I am looking for a screening kit for identifying the potential ligand/ substrates (small molecule metabolites) of an

[ccp4bb] Please recommend screen kits for membrane proteins

2009-03-12 Thread JOE CRYSTAL
Sorry for the off-topic subject. I am new to membrane proteins. We already have Qiagen MB class I and II, Sigma Membrane, and Membrane Gold kits, but I want to know if there other kits out there you would recommend. Thanks a lot, Joe

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Dale, 1) There is a need for additional validation of structure factor depositions. My recollection is that the output of SF Check is available to the depositor via ADIT on the RCSB site. I have found that report to be quite helpful in checking for gross errors in my structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac5 and Pseudo-merohedral twinning

2009-03-12 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi Pavol, Garib Actually, that bit of doc doesn't answer a few practical questions we keep running into: 1) What spacegroup should you provide the data in? The usual scenario, in practice, is that one merges in too high symmetry, and wants to check whether it is actually lower symmetry

Re: [ccp4bb] Structural biology inside the cell

2009-03-12 Thread Felix Frolow
Dear Mark Stay calm Buzz-words come and very frequently do not stay, they go away with the artifacts they advocate... Dr Felix Frolow Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology Department of Molecular Microbiology and Biotechnology Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel Acta

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac5 and Pseudo-merohedral twinning

2009-03-12 Thread Garib Murshudov
Current version does not expand data or model. C222 twinned in P2 will not be handled if data are in C222. Overmerged data are a bit tricky to deal with. And model in higher space group would not fit into the asymmetric unit in general. In short: in the current version space group should be

[ccp4bb] Beamtime proposal deadline for ALS GU time

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Zwart
The deadline for the may/June cycle of general user time for PX in the ALS is coming up soon (This Sunday). The Berkeley Center for Structural Biology (BCSB) has recently completed a number of upgrades: Sector 8: Recent improvements include: * A high-accuracy microdiffractometer on BL

Re: [ccp4bb] Please recommend screen kits for membrane proteins

2009-03-12 Thread Franz Gruswitz
I like the standard Classics, PEGs 1 and 2, as well as the ProComplex screens. We also use Molecular Dimensions MemStart/MemSys and the Axygen High Probability Peg Screen. Good luck. Franz On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:10 -0400, JOE CRYSTAL gch...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the off-topic