Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2014-11-29 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Pavel, I think your email highlights one of the differences between us and one of the reasons for this discussion: I am a scientist, not a mathematician - I want to improve crystallographic methods because people who solve crystal structures want an answer to a biological or chemical or

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2014-11-29 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Tim On 29 November 2014 at 10:16, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I want to improve crystallographic methods because people who solve crystal structures want an answer to a biological or chemical or physical question rather than because they enjoy watching the realisation of a

[ccp4bb] are mathematician scientists ?! (previously Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number)

2014-11-29 Thread Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV
Dear Tim, as you know I avoid making public comments and prefer enjoying the comments done by others, however this time is hard to resist :-) I was surprised by your mail : do you mean that mathematicians are NOT SCIENTISTS ?! Do you mean that they are nasty persons who fight against normal

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2014-11-29 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Ian, it seems we have drifted a bit from the original thread. Maybe this is a good point to allow the discussion to settle. Best regards, Tim On 11/29/2014 01:41 PM, Ian Tickle wrote: Hi Tim On 29 November 2014 at 10:16, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I want to improve

Re: [ccp4bb] are mathematician scientists ?! (previously Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number)

2014-11-29 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Sasha, I was taught that 'scientist' was best translated into German as 'Naturwissenschaftler' rather than the general term 'Wissenschaftler'. Mathematicians were philosophers and e.g. economy belongs maybe to humanities. I thought this distinction was also made at the Imperial College were

Re: [ccp4bb] are mathematician scientists ?!

2014-11-29 Thread Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV
Dear Tim, sure - no any problem . It was a nice occasion to talk about our complementarity (and make a publicity of some excellent old papers) ! With best regards, be well ! Sacha PS : I am even less English native speaker De : CCP4 bulletin board

Re: [ccp4bb] are mathematician scientists ?! (previously Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number)

2014-11-29 Thread David Schuller
On 11/29/14 07:47, Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV wrote: Dear Tim, as you know I avoid making public comments and prefer enjoying the comments done by others, however this time is hard to resist :-) I was surprised by your mail : do you mean that mathematicians are NOT SCIENTISTS ?! Do you mean that

Re: [ccp4bb] are mathematician scientists ?! (previously Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number)

2014-11-29 Thread Keller, Jacob
Consider this one: Newton's PhilosophiƦ Naturalis Principia Mathematica. I think it may have all the relevant terms? I've always liked to think of scientists more as natural philosophers, although I think there should be something with a connotation of art in there as well, since we do some of