Re: [ccp4bb] How to deal with tNCS?

2023-07-21 Thread Diana Tomchick
I would second what Eleanor has to say about the relationship of your C2221 cell to the P212121 cell. When I have had cases where there is a peak in the self Patterson function that is as high as yours (99.471% is essentially 100%), it means that the peak at 1/2, 0, 0 in the self Patterson is

Re: [ccp4bb] How to deal with tNCS?

2023-07-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
No attachments Lande Fu? Your C2221 cell is pretty obviously related to the orthorhombic one. (a b c )-C2221 ~ (2b 2c a)P212121 The cell volume of C2221 cell is ~ 4 x P212121 cell. - 8 symmetry related copies for C2221 and 4 for P212121 so if there are 2 molecules in P212121 ASU you expect 4 in

Re: [ccp4bb] How to deal with tNCS?

2023-07-21 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello again, the R- and R-free are pretty high so there might be a problem with the space group or you may not have found all the molecules in the asymmetric unit. Are there big gaps in the packing with electron density to suggest additional molecules? Have you tried the option to input the

Re: [ccp4bb] How to deal with tNCS?

2023-07-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - it is hard to comment without more information, but many crystals do have tNCS and yield perfectly satisfactory solutions.. How many molecules do you expect in the asymmetric unit? Look at the Matthewscoefficient suggestions to guess that. What are the fractional coordinates of the

Re: [ccp4bb] How to deal with tNCS?

2023-07-19 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello Lande, the map which you have fitted looks quite good, as does the diffraction pattern. At that resolution it will benefit from anisotropic refinement, I think. What sort of R-and R-free do you have? You mentioned they are high with some of your solutions. What does the solvent content