Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-23 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi vito, I don't think you need double labelling. Two (if there is a Met at the N-term it might be less ordered) or three SeMet should suffice to phase 360 residues. It was true in the old days that a Se could phase less than a hundred residues, but if your measurement is good (resolution

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-22 Thread James Holton
I have only heard of a few cases of successful Se incorporation into Cys, and none of them sounded like fun. Sounds like you have gotten a few suggestions already. There is not much literature on this. As for alternative solutions to your original question, I can tell you the success or

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-22 Thread Daniel Rigden
Dear Vito AMPLE is another option to easily and automatically find conserved cores among a set of distant homologues. You point it to a directory containing your homologues and use the -homologs True flag. You can use the command line or CCP4i. It will then use GESAMT to find the multiple

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-22 Thread Randy Read
Yes, I agree that MR is worth a shot, though depending on the resolution your life may be vastly easier with experimental phases! We've had several cases where the following kind of procedure works: find related structures with a very sensitive homology search (we like HHPRED, though other

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-22 Thread Paula Salgado
on behalf of Bonsor, Daniel <dbon...@som.umaryland.edu> Sent: 21 June 2017 22:03:06 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling To perform double labelling on your protein in an NON auxotrophic strain may be difficult. For the seleomet side, yo

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Frank Von Delft
09 am To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling I second (or third) the suggestion that others have given to try soaking mercury compounds into your crystal. Mercury absolutely loves free cysteines, and if you have 5, you have a great chance of

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Whitley, Matthew J
I second (or third) the suggestion that others have given to try soaking mercury compounds into your crystal. Mercury absolutely loves free cysteines, and if you have 5, you have a great chance of getting binding. If isomorphism is maintained after soaking, the isomorphous differences will be

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Bonsor, Daniel
To perform double labelling on your protein in an NON auxotrophic strain may be difficult. For the seleomet side, you can shut down the biosynthesis of Met by the addition of lysine, phenylalanine, threonine, isoleucine and valine; various protocols exist online. However to shutdown

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Guenter Fritz
Dear Vito, for SeMet have a look here: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Expression_of_SeMet_labeled_proteins Worked like a charm for E.coli and also for other expression hosts with minor modifications

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Keller, Jacob
Halide soaks anyone? Cs or NaI? Jacob From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Mark J van Raaij Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:08 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling If your data is good enough, your SeMets alone

Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and Se-Cys double labelling

2017-06-21 Thread Mark J van Raaij
If your data is good enough, your SeMets alone might well be enough. Soaking native crystals in Hg compounds may also work, avoiding SeMet altogether. We have had a lot of success with methylmercury chloride binding to free Cys. You may have to experiment with different soaking times and