Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Leroy Tennison
As has already been mentioned, some commands (or command options) are only supported on later releases, the man pages don't say this. Does anyone know of a source of information listing the command, option and version it is implemented in? That alone would be a great help. - Original

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Mark Haney
On 07/31/2017 11:59 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 31.07.2017 13:23, Mark Haney wrote: Uh, I run VMWare workstation just fine on my F26 upgraded machine. No, it didn't work when I upgraded, but it's trivial to fix. http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1939 This link gets you a running workstation in about 5

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:59:24PM +0200, Walter H. wrote: > > No, this wasn't really a Fedora issue, it's a VMWare issue. > doesn't really help me, the upgrade killed my VMware Workstation It still doesn't stop it from being a VMWare issue. VMware has kernel modules that need to be compiled

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Warren Young said: > Zeroing the free space not only prevents inclusion of these discarded FS > blocks, they compress better, too. Check out the "virt-sparsify" command - it does all of this for you. -- Chris Adams

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Miguel González
Hi, Why wandering off-topic? This is about CentOS on VPSes. I can´t remember which Debian or Ubuntu commands I found since I didn´t use them. I´m allowing dd to totally fill the partition and the OS is surviving perfectly (It´s a web server and works fine as long as I don´t keep it "full"

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > > if you have found Debian commands, you're doing better than me. What are > they? I’m not aware of a generic Debian-to-CentOS command translation dictionary. You’ll have to be specific about the commands you’re

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On 31.07.2017 13:15, Johnny Hughes wrote: Running external things like VMWare Workstation (or other 3rd party custom compiled apps) is exactly what enterprise distros like RHEL, CentOS, Ubuntu LTS, SUSE SLES are designed for .. running things already compiled for a long period of time while

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:28:49AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> dd to totally fill the partition > > I may be blind, but I don't seehow that technique can "reclaim" any space. In addition to the OP’s qemu

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2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On 31.07.2017 13:23, Mark Haney wrote: Uh, I run VMWare workstation just fine on my F26 upgraded machine. No, it didn't work when I upgraded, but it's trivial to fix. http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1939 This link gets you a running workstation in about 5 minutes. not really, with this I only get

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:56 AM, hw wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 06:13:42PM +0200, hw wrote: >>> What?s the point of doing this with Fedora? It?s not like bugs >>> were fixed before Fedora is EOL and all reports are forgotten. >> >> Many bugs are

Re: [CentOS] Using GIMP on Centos-7, problem

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 30, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > I find the installation instructions (for the binary tarball) are > minimal Your link to the binary tarball is also minimal, to the point of being nonexistent. :) > and whatever I do, it doesn't seem to appear

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Leroy Tennison
Interesting, thanks, my situation was (obviously) using NTFS. I should add clarification that, although a qcow[2] to qcow[2] convert will reclaim the zeroed space, it does nothing to change the virtual size (qemu-img info ...) so the image can grow back to that size. Currently (on long term

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Ruttkay Vladimir
If you are using XFS - there is mount option "discard|nodiscard" From XFS man page: discard|nodiscard Enable/disable the issuing of commands to let the block device reclaim space freed by the filesystem. This is useful for SSD devices, thinly provisioned LUNs and virtual

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Leroy Tennison
You're right, there's a procedure following it, once the space is zeroed qemu-img will recognize it as such and will eliminate it when 'convert' is used. Apparently Fedora qemu has some better capabilities to shrink partitions but they haven't made it to "long term support" distributions yet.

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/31/2017 08:50 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:28:49AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> I realize this is wandering off-topic but, if you have found Debian >> commands, you're doing better than me. What are they? Also, are you >> allowing dd to totally fill the partition

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:28:49AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: > I realize this is wandering off-topic but, if you have found Debian commands, > you're doing better than me. What are they? Also, are you allowing dd to > totally fill the partition (what I have found on the web as a >

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Leroy Tennison
I realize this is wandering off-topic but, if you have found Debian commands, you're doing better than me. What are they? Also, are you allowing dd to totally fill the partition (what I have found on the web as a recommendation)? If so, is the OS surviving acceptably? - Original Message

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2017-07-31 Thread Mark Haney
On 07/31/2017 07:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/30/2017 02:07 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 30.07.2017 20:22, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/30/2017 09:41 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 30.07.2017 14:29, Johnny Hughes wrote: I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work on all

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/30/2017 02:07 PM, Walter H. wrote: > On 30.07.2017 20:22, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 07/30/2017 09:41 AM, Walter H. wrote: >>> On 30.07.2017 14:29, Johnny Hughes wrote: I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work on all the time learning/testing. I just