Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Rob Kampen
On 01/09/2014 12:38 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: hi, On 01/08/2014 02:47 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing mumbo-jumbo such as the next generation of emerging technologies and a platform that is easily consumed. Karanbir usually writes

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/09/2014 12:09 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: I'd throw SMEserver, ClearOS, and the old (up to CentOS5) version of K12LTSP in that bucket too. Maybe someone will roll a new K12LTSP that comes up working as installed again now. The focus from the project side is going to be creating the infra

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if this changes as indicated, doesn't that negate all those changes and give Oracle a leg up to getting their clone to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org To: centos@centos.org Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and thus all

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread David Miller
On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if this changes as indicated, doesn't that

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/9/2014 11:26 AM, David Miller wrote: At this point I really don't see why RedHat doesn't just offer RHEL + updates + extra channels for free and then only charge for support. This would put them on a real equal ground with Canonical. I suspect doing so would cut heavily into their

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 1/9/2014 11:26 AM, David Miller wrote: At this point I really don't see why RedHat doesn't just offer RHEL + updates + extra channels for free and then only charge for support. This would put them on a real equal

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 01/09/2014 08:26 PM, David Miller wrote: On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays .. if

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/9/2014 11:53 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: It is same with SuSE and OpenSuSE, right? opensuse is more like fedora -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread m . roth
David Miller wrote: On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: snip Look at it another way - we are not working with the RHEL teams, we are working with the RH open source and standards team ( that has no real input into

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 03:18:10PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tell them you can try it out, and if they like the results, they can pay for a license and support for RHEL, the real thing, and that's a *lot* easier sell. Especially if there's a migration script to convert existing CentOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Simpson
On 9 January 2014 13:35, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote: As I see it, more and more alternatives to Oracle are in the market. Hadoop, is cutting into Oracle's revenue. So, RH needs to concentrate on promoting JBOSS and a version of HADOOP. Don't worry about Oracle. Fedora

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se wrote: My first thought as well. Redhat already has Fedora as a testing ground. So for Redhat acquiring another free distribution makes me wary, unnecessarily so maybe... One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing mumbo-jumbo such as

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi, On 01/08/2014 02:47 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: One thing that struck me in Karanbir's message was the marketing mumbo-jumbo such as the next generation of emerging technologies and a platform that is easily consumed. Karanbir usually writes better than that, so I suppose that someone

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

2014-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: the voip setup for home/small users is the best example. if asterisk@home were done as a part of the centos community, how cool would that have been? I'd throw SMEserver, ClearOS, and the old (up to CentOS5) version of