Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 4 May 2017 at 12:44, James Hogarth wrote: > On 8 March 2017 at 11:19, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 8 March 2017 at 11:15, Alice Wonder wrote: >>> On 03/08/2017 01:57 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > The recommended

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 11:19, James Hogarth wrote: > On 8 March 2017 at 11:15, Alice Wonder wrote: >> On 03/08/2017 01:57 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: >>> >>> The recommended configuration for EL7 is to use NetworkManager unless you have a very

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 09/03/17 09:28, John Hodrien wrote: I'll obviously argue I wasn't scaremongering. You can start with CentOS, and do anything you like with it, and as I've said, you're absolutely free to do that. But at some point, you have to accept that what you've got left isn't CentOS. If you

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017, isdtor wrote: Did I see an implicit "do as Red Hat says or else" there somewhere? Not appropriate. Linux is not Windows (yet). In the heat of the moment it may easily be forgotton that Linux is all about choice. We choose to run CentOS, and we choose to run it the way we see

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 9 March 2017 at 00:54, isdtor wrote: > Did I see an implicit "do as Red Hat says or else" there somewhere? Not > appropriate. Linux is not Windows (yet). In the heat of the moment it may > easily be forgotton that Linux is all about choice. We choose to run CentOS, > and

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Did I see an implicit "do as Red Hat says or else" there somewhere? Not appropriate. Linux is not Windows (yet). In the heat of the moment it may easily be forgotton that Linux is all about choice. We choose to run CentOS, and we choose to run it the way we see fit. We appreciate the efforts

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 15:00, Giles Coochey wrote: > > > On 08/03/17 14:54, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> >> >> If you'd like a really simple solution that avoids NetworkManager, I >> suggest using systemd-networkd (both systemd-networkd and >> systemd-resolved packages required).

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 14:54, Jonathan Billings wrote: If you'd like a really simple solution that avoids NetworkManager, I suggest using systemd-networkd (both systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved packages required). I've used it to set up a bridge on my workstattion for use with libvirtd/kvm, and it

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:43:57AM +, Giles Coochey wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle > > I'm not flaming NetworkManager, I'm just stating that for many (perhaps > most), it is over-engineered for a server orientated distribution. I can run > with the script above on 30

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 13:16, Steve Clark wrote: Let us have a vote - how many of us do teaming/bonding/vlans on our servers? Our networking gear does that in our installation. The majority of my servers are virtual, if I need multiple subnets (VLANs) then I have multiple cards. Their throughput does

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 13:16, Steve Clark wrote: > On 03/08/2017 07:39 AM, John Hodrien wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Steve Clark wrote: >> >>> Yes it is really hard! >>> >>> ip address add 192.168.0.1/24 dev enp0s25 >>> ip route add default via 192.168.0.254 dev enp0s25

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Hello David, It was not to flame something about NetworkManager. There some application that "needs" to wheel the old way. I would never have thought it would be such an enlightenment for such a small, old thing. 1. There is a file that isn't always needed (/etc/sysconfig/network) 2. I wanne

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 03/08/2017 07:39 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Steve Clark wrote: > >> Yes it is really hard! >> >> ip address add 192.168.0.1/24 dev enp0s25 >> ip route add default via 192.168.0.254 dev enp0s25 >> echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf >> echo nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Steve Clark wrote: Yes it is really hard! ip address add 192.168.0.1/24 dev enp0s25 ip route add default via 192.168.0.254 dev enp0s25 echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 8.8.4.4 >> /etc/resolv.conf This is still a deliberately trivial case, as

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 03/08/2017 05:43 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: On 08/03/17 10:38, John Hodrien wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: ifconfig enp0s25 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add default gw 192.168.0.254 enp0s25 echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 03/08/2017 05:52 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: > >> Not really, Redhat/Centos has a lot to offer, but for me, networking is a >> one-time configuration, and the best way to configure it is using something >> that falls within this principle: >> >>

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Certain application doesn't like the NetworkManager for example take a look here. https://www.rdoproject.org/install/quickstart/ And on server stage it's better to run without any complicate configuration tools. Tools can make life harder in some cases. Got many other distros run before

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 03/08/2017 05:43 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > > On 08/03/17 10:38, John Hodrien wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: >> >>> ifconfig enp0s25 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 >>> route add default gw 192.168.0.254 enp0s25 >>> echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf >>> echo

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Hello James, your right in that position. I will correct it. Sincerely Andy ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 11:15, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 03/08/2017 01:57 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: >> >> >>> The recommended configuration for EL7 is to use NetworkManager unless >>> you have a very specific edge case preventing you from doing so: >>> >> The truth is a lot of us

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 03/08/2017 01:57 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: The recommended configuration for EL7 is to use NetworkManager unless you have a very specific edge case preventing you from doing so: The truth is a lot of us run servers that don't need to have their network "managed" by Networkmanager. My

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 11:10, James Hogarth wrote: On 8 March 2017 at 10:58, Giles Coochey wrote: On 08/03/17 10:52, John Hodrien wrote: It means you're stuck in your own hand crafted niche. Which is fine, but it's up to you to maintain the niche, or you find yourself using

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 10:58, Giles Coochey wrote: > > > On 08/03/17 10:52, John Hodrien wrote: >> >> >> It means you're stuck in your own hand crafted niche. Which is fine, but >> it's >> up to you to maintain the niche, or you find yourself using obsolete tools >> like ifconfig

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 10:52, John Hodrien wrote: It means you're stuck in your own hand crafted niche. Which is fine, but it's up to you to maintain the niche, or you find yourself using obsolete tools like ifconfig and route. I'd argue there's a gulf between keeping things simple and doing

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: Not really, Redhat/Centos has a lot to offer, but for me, networking is a one-time configuration, and the best way to configure it is using something that falls within this principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle I'm not flaming

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 10:38, John Hodrien wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: ifconfig enp0s25 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add default gw 192.168.0.254 enp0s25 echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 8.8.4.4 >> /etc/resolv.conf Oh okay, you really do want

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: ifconfig enp0s25 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add default gw 192.168.0.254 enp0s25 echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 8.8.4.4 >> /etc/resolv.conf Oh okay, you really do want to back away from Redhat entirely. That's

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 08/03/17 10:15, John Hodrien wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: The truth is a lot of us run servers that don't need to have their network "managed" by Networkmanager. You're opting to have your network managed by a bunch of unloved legacy scripts that you're advised to

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017, Giles Coochey wrote: The truth is a lot of us run servers that don't need to have their network "managed" by Networkmanager. You're opting to have your network managed by a bunch of unloved legacy scripts that you're advised to avoid using unless necessary, or you've

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

The recommended configuration for EL7 is to use NetworkManager unless you have a very specific edge case preventing you from doing so: The truth is a lot of us run servers that don't need to have their network "managed" by Networkmanager. We just need to set an IP address, subnet mask,

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

On 8 March 2017 at 06:56, Andreas Benzler wrote: > Hello Guys, > > update my post, because of a route from ipv6 on same networkcard, > with only ipv4 enabled > > Sincerely > > Andy > > Please accept this as honest constructive criticism from someone who also likes to blog.

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Hello Guys, update my post, because of a route from ipv6 on same networkcard, with only ipv4 enabled Sincerely Andy ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

Sorry: Can be a bug, because /etc/sysconfig/network isn't nessesery. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] From Networkmanager to self managed configuration files

I don't know who is intereseted in, http://www.centos.cms4all.org/index.php/2017/03/07/centos-7-the-journey-form-networkmanager-to-self-managed-network-configuration-files/ Can be a bug, because the isn't nessesery. Sincerely AndyBe ___ CentOS