Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-05 Thread Lance Lassetter
On August 4, 2017 4:29:17 PM CDT, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >wwp wrote: >> >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:24:08 +0200 Andreas Benzler > >> wrote: >> >>> Ok you in Grub press tab and then add „3“ after the initrd entry …. >>> quiet…“ >>> >>> yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nouveau >>> >>>

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread m . roth
wwp wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:24:08 +0200 Andreas Benzler > wrote: > >> Ok you in Grub press tab and then add „3“ after the initrd entry …. >> quiet…“ >> >> yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nouveau >> >> And see if X11 come up with standard frambuffer… >> >> Disable nouveau

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread wwp
Hello, On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:24:08 +0200 Andreas Benzler wrote: > Ok you in Grub press tab and then add „3“ after the initrd entry …. quiet…“ > > yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nouveau > > And see if X11 come up with standard frambuffer… > > Disable nouveau complete from

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread Andreas Benzler
This point can be done. First to verify that the intel gpu is work. I got old laptops in my office and disable nvidia at first and it works. Secondary. If the offical NVIDIA kmod version works with the rest of his hardware he can go on with bumblebee. NVIDIA drivers disable nouveau in the same

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread wwp
Hello Mike, On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:19:30 -0400 "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" wrote: > On 08/02/2017 10:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: > >> ... > >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue > >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Darr247 wrote: I don't know how to tell which graphics adapter is being used by a particular app in CentOS... the only benchmarking suite I've heard of for CentOS is Phoronix (look in EPEL), which should have the GLMark2 benchmark to test the OpenGL renderers. I'm not aware

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread Darr247
> I must admit that this is new to me! I'm not familiar w/ laptops w/ 2 devices like that. Now I > understand why under Windows, Dell has installed both Intel and NVidia software. > Could anyone explain why such hardware configuration? The Intel HD GPU is actually integrated on the CPU die; the

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread wwp
Hello Andy, On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:55:33 +0200 Andreas Benzler wrote: > If you wanne use the opensource version from nvidia can test > my private driver stack > > [cms4all-kernel] > name=cms4all-kernel > baseurl=http://centos.cms4all.org/repo/7/kernel/ >

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread Andreas Benzler
If you wanne use the opensource version from nvidia can test my private driver stack [cms4all-kernel] name=cms4all-kernel baseurl=http://centos.cms4all.org/repo/7/kernel/ #baseurl=file:///srv/repo/centos/7/kernel gpgcheck=0 enabled=1 Same as ml + some AMD flags and [cms4all-drivers]

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread Andreas Benzler
Ok you in Grub press tab and then add „3“ after the initrd entry …. quiet…“ yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nouveau And see if X11 come up with standard frambuffer… Disable nouveau complete from kernel if the upper not helps. nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf blacklist nouveau > Am

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-04 Thread wwp
Hello, On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:53:45 -0500 Lance Lassetter wrote: > On August 2, 2017 3:18:29 AM CDT, wwp wrote: > >Hello Johnny, > > > > > >On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:47:14 -0500 Johnny Hughes > >wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-03 Thread Lance Lassetter
On August 2, 2017 3:18:29 AM CDT, wwp wrote: >Hello Johnny, > > >On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:47:14 -0500 Johnny Hughes >wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 11:32 AM, wwp wrote: >> > Hello Johnny, >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
On 08/02/2017 10:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >> ... >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >>> ... >>> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >>> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >>> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Phil Perry
On 02/08/17 16:18, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: ... It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. CentOS7 has a kernel which is

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread wwp
Hello, On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:55:14 -0400 Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: > > ... > > It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue > > w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. > > CentOS7 has a kernel

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 08/02/2017 09:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: >> ... >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: ... It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to handle lots of computers sold currently. That said, there

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-08-02 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:47:14 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 11:32 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > [snip] > >>> I've just succeeded in installing

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 11:32 AM, wwp wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > [snip] >>> I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck >>> using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). >>> >>> Hardware support is

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: [snip] > > I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck > > using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). > > > > Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): > > -

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Nicolas, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:05:17 +0200 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 27/07/2017 à 20:01, wwp a écrit : > > I would like to do that, but the live CD doesn't even boot, unknown > > hardware and that's the point. I thought I could find a respin of the > > DVD or Live

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 10:26 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: > >>> Hello

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 10:26 AM, wwp wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: > >>> Hello

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 08:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: >> Hello Johnny, >> >> >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: > Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: Hello there, I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: > >> Hello there, > >> > >> > >> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > >>

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Kahlil, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 10:35:57 +1000 Kahlil Hodgson wrote: > I have a Dell XPS 13 (9360) with Fedora 26 installed. Very happy with it. > > UEFI boot from flash drive works out of the box. > > For install I needed to change the drive settings in the

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread wwp
Hello Mike, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 17:01:18 -0400 "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" wrote: > I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH like on that > hardware. There is nothing that unstable about them other than losing > updates and maintenance after 2 years and having to

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 27/07/2017 à 22:24, wwp a écrit : > Fedora could be stable enough even if not a standard/reference in > industry at all (which sticks to RH releases), I would have loved a > CentOS because it is way more compliant to my "corporate" needs (LTS) This is why I appreciate KDE neon

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 27/07/2017 à 20:01, wwp a écrit : > I would like to do that, but the live CD doesn't even boot, unknown > hardware and that's the point. I thought I could find a respin of the > DVD or Live CD w/ a recent kernel in. Can you boot the installation DVD? Does the installer come up? If not, can you

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> >> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >> kernel can't run on this hardware. >> >> What

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: > Hello there, > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
I have a Dell XPS 13 (9360) with Fedora 26 installed. Very happy with it. UEFI boot from flash drive works out of the box. For install I needed to change the drive settings in the BIOS from the default of RAID (what ever that means on a laptop) to AHCI. No need to turn off secure boot. If you

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 27.07.2017 um 19:25 schrieb wwp : > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Leroy Tennison
--- Original Message - From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <sy...@w1nr.net> To: "centos" <centos@centos.org> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)? I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH l

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH like on that hardware. There is nothing that unstable about them other than losing updates and maintenance after 2 years and having to upgrade. Another choice is to run Virtualbox on the Windows that shipped with the laptop and run a CentOS

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 27.07.2017 um 22:48 schrieb vychytraly . : > > Maybe CentOS 7.4 would have backported compatibility for your hardware. I > had similar issues with Intel GPU not being recognized, which was solved by > "i915 preliminary hw support enabled" method. Try to have a look on

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:24:29PM +0200, wwp wrote: > Right, I'm currently digging that way, struggling a bit w/ the way I > write the F26 ISO to a USB flashdrive (I'll succeed tomorrow, found > better howtos to get rid of unetbootin issues). I recommend using Fedora Media Writer

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread vychytraly .
Maybe CentOS 7.4 would have backported compatibility for your hardware. I had similar issues with Intel GPU not being recognized, which was solved by "i915 preliminary hw support enabled" method. Try to have a look on that. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:24 PM, wwp wrote: > Hello

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello Matthew, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:59:35 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 08:38:14PM +0200, wwp wrote: > > Say, instead of stable, something not rawhide. But I'll examine all > > options that do work, so let's forget about "stable". > > In that

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, July 27, 2017 3:02 pm, vychytraly . wrote: > Did you already try current Centos? If yes what was the problem? Why it did > not work? I would first ask kindly: please, do not to post. I would second that. Namely, I had quite a few Dell laptops, all of them that were configured and

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello m.r...@5-cent.us, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:25:49 -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > wwp wrote: > > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > > >

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello vychytraly, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 22:02:18 +0200 "vychytraly ." wrote: > Did you already try current Centos? If yes what was the problem? Why it did > not work? It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue w/ *Lake hardware (modern

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread vychytraly .
Did you already try current Centos? If yes what was the problem? Why it did not work? On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 08:38:14PM +0200, wwp wrote: > > Say, instead of stable, something not rawhide. But I'll examine all > >

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 08:38:14PM +0200, wwp wrote: > Say, instead of stable, something not rawhide. But I'll examine all > options that do work, so let's forget about "stable". In that case — and I freely admit I have some bias here — I highly recommend Fedora. It's not stable in the sense of

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread m . roth
wwp wrote: > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks.

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello Matthew, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:27:47 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:25:25PM +0200, wwp wrote: > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > >

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:25:25PM +0200, wwp wrote: > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. What sense of the word "stable" are you looking for? -- Matthew

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello Nicolas, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:51:07 +0200 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 27/07/2017 à 19:25, wwp a écrit : > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't

Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)?

2017-07-27 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 27/07/2017 à 19:25, wwp a écrit : > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a