Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
DRBD works approximately like raid1 mirroring. Unless something breaks it shouldn't add much latency since the duplicate disk will run at approximately the same speed as the master. RAID1 + network latency. Got it. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Karanbir Singh wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: I am sorry but I do not share that view for incoming mail. The latency in getting the mail replicated probably is longer than it takes to do the actually delivery to the mail store. I am not sure what you mean by the word 'replication' but in

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
John R Pierce wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: That default setting is no longer applicable today. Users will scream if they find out that their mails have been sitting in the queue for a day. For today's businesses, one day can make or break a deal and so email, being a much faster form of

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Okay, Les helped me with that one. RAID1 on the network. So you would have to use GFS or something like that with it and have the service down on the secondary unless it was sendmail you were running. No and yes. You can

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally only have the one on the primary node mounted - the other one is not accessed by anything. And yes, with heartbeat you just failover to the second node, if the first one is dead.

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Christopher Chan
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: No and yes. You can just use ext3 on both nodes as you normally only have the one on the primary node mounted - the other one is not accessed by anything. And yes, with heartbeat you just failover to the second node, if the

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 23:50 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: snip Besides, as John already pointed out, emails in the spools can hang around for days. I believe most MTA's only discard completely after 7days of non delivery. That default setting is no longer

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: There are primary/primary setups possible with drbd and gfs if you need both nodes to be exported at the same time - but that's not needed nor recommended in a failover situation. Why would it not be recommended for a failover situation?

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: There are primary/primary setups possible with drbd and gfs if you need both nodes to be exported at the same time - but that's not needed nor recommended in a failover situation. Why would it not be

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Rudi Ahlers wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: Because it would be shooting cannons at birds in this particular case. If you need to expose both nodes to the public all the time, you probably also run the software on both nodes - which would be more of a cluster than a failover setup :) But,

Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I did not read your mail through properly. Not mounted on the secondary, okay. Anyway, quite a fair bit off complexity there in making sure the network block device does not get mounted by both boxes at the same time. Is it really worth the complexity when

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Les Mikesell
Ralph Angenendt wrote: - What does our upstream think about this? - What do the OpenSSH developers think about this? Someone is going to need to ask those questions of the people... I don't think the OpenSSH devels really do care about that - there is no discussion whatsoever on the

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
Les Mikesell wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: - What does our upstream think about this? - What do the OpenSSH developers think about this? Someone is going to need to ask those questions of the people... I don't think the OpenSSH devels really do care about that - there is no discussion

RE: [CentOS] symbolic linking

2008-05-19 Thread Bowie Bailey
Frank Cox wrote: I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack If I go into the /opt directory on jill and do this: ln -s /mnt/jack/opt/files .

Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Does anyone know the point of the patch in the first place? That is, why would a distro-specific modification have been needed at all? I don't suspect an intentional compromise here but I'm curious

RE: [CentOS] yum problem after last kernel (SOLVED)

2008-05-19 Thread Alex Palenschat
Hello all, I've been googling and haven't found an answer. I have a Centos 4.6 box that is having an issue since the last yum update. The nss_ldap and kernel packages were the only packages installed/updated. When I try to run yum I now receive: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update There was a

Re: [CentOS] symbolic linking

2008-05-19 Thread MHR
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Cox wrote: I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack I'm not clear

Re: [CentOS] OT: Building NFS server with LVM and snapshots enabled

2008-05-19 Thread Theo Band
carlopmart wrote: Hi all, I need to build a NFS CentOS 5.1 based server with LVM and snaphosts for disaster recovering to serve storage to three ESX servers for a development dept. I have 500 GB for storage. Data that I need to store on this server is 150 GB and can grow to 210 GB to the

[CentOS] kickstart question with 2 network cards

2008-05-19 Thread Jerry Geis
I am using kickstart to automate installs. working nicely. I now have a box with 2 NIC cards and I am getting prompted for which nick to use. I have a line like: network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp --hostname tmp.msgnet.com in my kickstart. This line does not seem to be enough to say

Re: [CentOS] kickstart question with 2 network cards

2008-05-19 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Jerry Geis wrote: I am using kickstart to automate installs. working nicely. I now have a box with 2 NIC cards and I am getting prompted for which nick to use. I have a line like: network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp --hostname tmp.msgnet.com in my kickstart. This

[CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: Dear Mr. Singh: I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the communities they serve. Your opinions are louder than your putative

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread John R Pierce
Scott Silva wrote: on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: ..Unfortunately, in 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who think that attack is the best way to

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 02:53:50PM -0700, Scott Silva wrote: on 5-16-2008 8:14 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: Dear Mr. Singh: I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the communities

[CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 8:08 AM Carol Anne Ogdin spake the following: Les Mikesell questioned, ...who would go there to post any answers? The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. There's a thriving community I helped create and

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread MHR
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone around for 10 years much less 51 years would know that Karanbir's style of communication should be considered blunt and not offensive. It's a common style of communication for developers. I never take it

Re: [CentOS] Re: clustered mail server?

2008-05-19 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Tom Diehl wrote: If you are sending secret or sensitive information via unencrypted email you already have a bigger problem then weather or not google is harvesting info. Email by design is insecure. Why anyone would believe otherwise is unclear to me. If you are

Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting

2008-05-19 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 15:00 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: I read an interesting take on why once. Can't remember the link though... nerds need to remember that normal folk appreciate niceities in conversation, and normal folk need to remember that nerds are often very blunt but aren't really

Re: [CentOS] Convert a real system in a DomU

2008-05-19 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/5/18 Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I was a server running Fedora 6. I want to migrate it to Xen on a Centos 5.1. Can I make something like You might want to take a look at this code that Richard has been working on recently :

[CentOS] Re: tar spanning

2008-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-16-2008 4:28 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:22:51 pm Scott Silva wrote: on 5-14-2008 6:11 PM Jim Perrin spake the following: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri-Hlp6NBfSoRe8rHFcjEY/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Googling my own name 'Fajar

[CentOS] awstats, webalizer or...

2008-05-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
So what does everyone out there use to generate web statistics these days? Are the tried and true awstats or webalizer still the best out there? Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] awstats, webalizer or...

2008-05-19 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Ray Van Dolson wrote: So what does everyone out there use to generate web statistics these days? Are the tried and true awstats or webalizer still the best out there? Ray Awffull - http://www.stedee.id.au/awffull -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature.

Re: [CentOS-docs] Opening of the Wiki - Part I

2008-05-19 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: The principle of Wiki is participation of anyone who wishes to contribute. That of course raises a question of how we can maintain the contents correct or appropriate. I agree that having an editorial

Re: [CentOS-docs] Opening of the Wiki - Part I

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2007-October/000734.html As you can see in that thread, placing a moderator's name on each page was opposed by a few core members of the CentOS team. Then

Re: [CentOS-virt] xen kernel showing only one processor on SMP

2008-05-19 Thread Hristo Benev
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 08:42:16 -0700 From: gen2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] xen kernel showing only one processor on SMP To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS centos-virt@centos.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;

[CentOS-es] [OT?] Que clase de fibra optica usar (monomodo / multimodo)

2008-05-19 Thread Carlos Martinez
Cordial saludo. Teniendo en cuenta los actuales o futuros estandares de 10Gb/s o mas usando fibra optica, ¿que clase de fibra optica recomendarian usar en cuanto a monomodo o multimodo? ¿Que experiencias han tenido al respecto? ¿Que equipos -- switchs, tarjetas de red-- recomendarian? ¿Que

Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind

2008-05-19 Thread Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer
El selinux lo tengo desabilitado desde la instalación, sospechando que fuera eso hice /usr/sbin/setenforce 0 y nada, por si puede ser una pista adicional, he borrado el fichero y la carpeta /named creados por mi en /var/log/ y da el mismo error, ni siquiera file not found. El error es:

[CentOS-es] Problemas con el iptables y msn

2008-05-19 Thread Freddy Angulo
Hola amigos necesito de su ayuda. he creado un script en iptables, el cual funciona a la perfeccion, el problema q tengo es que no logro acceder al msn, puedo habilitar el puerto 1863, pero no deseo que toda la lan tenga acceso, pues deseo controlarlo por squid, verificando dentro de mi reglas

Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind

2008-05-19 Thread Roger Peña
--- On Mon, 5/19/08, Maximo Monsalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Maximo Monsalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind To: centos-es@centos.org Received: Monday, May 19, 2008, 9:44 AM Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer wrote: El selinux lo tengo

Re: [CentOS-es] Probblema con servidor dhcp

2008-05-19 Thread Victor Ramirez
Muchas gracias. hice algunas pruebas y se trataba de un virus que estaba en un servidor de windows que estaba cachando las direcciones ip en un archivo de texto y no las dejaba entregar a los usuarios. Lo raro de esto era que a veces si las asignaba pero de repente perdia conexion con el servidor

Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind

2008-05-19 Thread Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer
El bind no lo tengo chroot. Al final como estoy casi seguro de que es un pro de permisos y como tal vez como principiante cambie los permisos de /var/log en alguno de los chmod que di ( lo tengo 0770 root:root no se si es así como va por defecto), puse el dns_logs en var/tmp/named y sin pro,

Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind

2008-05-19 Thread Roger Peña
--- On Mon, 5/19/08, Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind To: centos-es@centos.org Received: Monday, May 19, 2008, 2:31 PM El bind no lo tengo chroot. Al final como estoy

[CentOS-es] Problemas al tratar de enviar correos desde mi servidor

2008-05-19 Thread Luis Solís
Estimados Amigos, Se me presento el siguiente problema, cuando trato de enviar correos a traves de mi servidor de correo me rebotan con el siguiente mensaje: The original message was received at Mon, 19 May 2008 13:34:35 -0500 from cl02.metamorf.net [127.0.0.1] - The following

Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas al tratar de enviar correos desde mi servidor

2008-05-19 Thread César Sepúlveda B
El Monday 19 May 2008 02:58:00 pm Luis Solís escribió: Estimados Amigos, Se me presento el siguiente problema, cuando trato de enviar correos a traves de mi servidor de correo me rebotan con el siguiente mensaje: The original message was received at Mon, 19 May 2008 13:34:35 -0500

Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas al tratar de enviar correos desde mi servidor

2008-05-19 Thread Luis Solís
2008/5/19 César Sepúlveda B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El Monday 19 May 2008 02:58:00 pm Luis Solís escribió: Estimados Amigos, Se me presento el siguiente problema, cuando trato de enviar correos a traves de mi servidor de correo me rebotan con el siguiente mensaje: The original message

Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind

2008-05-19 Thread Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer
Roger Peña escribió: --- On Mon, 5/19/08, Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Abelardo Ramírez Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Permiso denegado en logs de bind To: centos-es@centos.org Received: Monday, May 19, 2008, 2:31 PM El bind no lo tengo chroot.

Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas al tratar de enviar correos desde mi servidor

2008-05-19 Thread César Sepúlveda B
El Monday 19 May 2008 03:24:40 pm Luis Solís escribió: 2008/5/19 César Sepúlveda B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El Monday 19 May 2008 02:58:00 pm Luis Solís escribió: Estimados Amigos, Se me presento el siguiente problema, cuando trato de enviar correos a traves de mi servidor de correo me

[CentOS-es] Lentitud en el acceso a internet con Dansguardian

2008-05-19 Thread Hector Martínez Romo
Estimada lista Tengo un servidor con CentOS 4.6 donde he instalado squid y dansguardian, la navegación se pone extremadamente lenta cuando ejecuto el filtro de contenido que esta en la misma maquina, cuando esta solo ejecutándose squid la navegación es muy rápida, probé incluso solo usando