Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Bob Taylor wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it disgusts me. It is not *wrong* ... any more than your

[CentOS] How to Contribute to CentOS was: CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: 2009/8/7 R P Herrold herr...@centos.org: You don't like reputational vetting and a meritocracy, or how it is run by the people in charge who have as one goal: not distributing malware.  I get it.  Thank you. Hey Russ, it's open source. You can just

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Mark Hedges wrote: You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? I am

Re: [CentOS] How to Contribute to CentOS was: CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Russ. You don't like reputational vetting and a meritocracy, or how it is run by the people in charge who have as one goal: not distributing malware.  I get it.  Thank you. Hey Russ, it's open source. You can just review the spec and comment it until it's ready for release. Source

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread JohnS
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:28 +0200, Andrew Colin Kissa wrote: On 07 Aug 2009, at 8:14 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: (like the Contrib repo) are getting a bit clearer so I guess we are on the right track. Contib repo !!! What Contrib repo ? The last time i tried to contribute i was told

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread JohnS
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 11:05 -0400, JohnS wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:28 +0200, Andrew Colin Kissa wrote: On 07 Aug 2009, at 8:14 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: (like the Contrib repo) are getting a bit clearer so I guess we are on the right track. Contib repo !!! What Contrib

Re: [CentOS] How to Contribute to CentOS was: CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Marcus Moeller m...@marcus-moeller.de wrote: Dear Russ. You don't like reputational vetting and a meritocracy, or how it is run by the people in charge who have as one goal: not distributing malware. I get it. Thank you. Hey Russ, it's open source. You can

Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2

2009-08-08 Thread JohnS
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:59 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Mark Hedges wrote: You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Bob Taylor wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this loses potential users or loses existing customers.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Alan Sparks
Bob Taylor wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Second, I am supposed to also kiss your ass? Is it necessary to insult me? I have said *nothing* to you to warrant this. Jeez, people, take it offline. -Alan

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ned Slider
Alan Sparks wrote: Bob Taylor wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Second, I am supposed to also kiss your ass? Is it necessary to insult me? I have said *nothing* to you to warrant this. Jeez, people, take it offline. -Alan Sorry Alan, but with

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Bob Taylor wrote: Personally, it disgusts me. Have I said I don't appreciate it? Yes, actually -- I call b*llsh*t -- you who have done nothing are here, and eat without charge at our table, and 'it disgusts' you Begone, troll -- Russ herrold

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Dag Wieers
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, R P Herrold wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Bob Taylor wrote: Personally, it disgusts me. Have I said I don't appreciate it? Yes, actually -- I call b*llsh*t -- you who have done nothing are here, and eat without charge at our table, and 'it disgusts' you Begone, troll

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Robert
Dag concern is good and you are right about how CentOS people should have a solid testimony for the projects big picture the thing is that since day one, as near as i have experienced and can tell, most of them have many years of rock solid CentOS work as a testimony. rock solid! we haven't

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears...  ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical of CentOS and the people running it should just move on and go away as asked +1 How easy it is to criticize people who have

[CentOS] ledgersmb installation

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Cox
I'm attempting to install ledgersmb on Centos 5 and I'm sure that I've missed something. After doing the initial installation, I get a 404 when I get to the part of the instructions that tell me to go to http://localhost/ledgersmb/admin.pl /etc/httpd/conf.d/ledgersmb.conf contains the following

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:31 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: snip Yep, I think it is because people often want to travel straight from A to Z without having to go through B, C, D, etc. Another subset of people, the talkers want to dictate to the doers how things should be done, often without

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 18:28 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: snip Sorry Alan, but with the greatest respect I believe it important that these types of discussions are allowed to happen openly within the community. This thread was started on a community mailing list by a member of that community

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 15:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears... ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical of CentOS and the people running it should just move on and go away

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Robert
This presents a ripe opportunity for a perception of unwarranted criticism, whining by someone who paid nothing, lack of appreciation for all the *free* hard work we do, etc. snip sig stuff -- Bill Bill, Good points... yet you forgot about presentation if a person makes

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Marko A. Jennings
On Sat, August 8, 2009 4:04 pm, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears...  ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical of CentOS and the people running it should just move on and go away as asked

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:14 -0700, Robert wrote: This presents a ripe opportunity for a perception of unwarranted criticism, whining by someone who paid nothing, lack of appreciation for all the *free* hard work we do, etc. snip sig stuff -- Bill Bill, Good

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Drew
Who is the project serving? The core themselves or a community of users as well? If that is effectively and accurately answered, then the dynamics of the relationship(s) between users of the project and the core can be more clearly stated and understood. In the end, most F/LOSS projects seem

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
William L. Maltby wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:31 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: snip Yep, I think it is because people often want to travel straight from A to Z without having to go through B, C, D, etc. Another subset of people, the talkers want to dictate to the doers how things

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 8/8/09, Marko A. Jennings marko...@bluegargoyle.com wrote: On Sat, August 8, 2009 4:04 pm, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears... ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical of CentOS and the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Marko A. Jennings wrote: On Sat, August 8, 2009 4:04 pm, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears... ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical of CentOS and the people running it should just move

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Marko A. Jennings
On Sat, August 8, 2009 8:44 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote: Marko A. Jennings wrote: On Sat, August 8, 2009 4:04 pm, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears... ;- it isn't productive and many of you that are critical

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 19:37 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I only have one question that I want to add to this gawd-awful thread now. Who is the project serving? The core themselves or a community of users as well? If that is effectively and accurately

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Marko A. Jennings wrote: On Sat, August 8, 2009 8:44 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote: Marko A. Jennings wrote: On Sat, August 8, 2009 4:04 pm, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Robertlist...@abbacomm.net wrote: snip please stop poking the bears... ;- it isn't productive and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ian Murray
I can't say I have been following this thread in its entirety, but the beauty (?) of free speech is that even the ill-informed get to have a say. :o) Anyway, I think there is a general problem with the name Community ENterprise OS. Well, Community can't refer to us users because every O/S has a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Ian Murray wrote: I can't say I have been following this thread in its entirety, but the beauty (?) of free speech is that even the ill-informed get to have a say. :o) Anyway, I think there is a general problem with the name Community ENterprise OS. Well, Community can't refer to us users

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 09 August 2009 00:50:16 Marko A. Jennings wrote: Your statement implies that people that have not contributed to a certain goal cannot possibly have a good suggestion. Of course, this is a very common and useful line of reasoning in human society. Put shortly, it increases

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 20:01 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: If you mean that I can be an arrogant SOB sometimes, then YES, we (and my wife) can agree. I also can certainly try to be nicer, yes. I am very tired of this whole thread - I think you have covered it well. But I will say

Re: [CentOS] ledgersmb installation

2009-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
Frank Cox wrote: I'm attempting to install ledgersmb on Centos 5 and I'm sure that I've missed something. After doing the initial installation, I get a 404 when I get to the part of the instructions that tell me to go to http://localhost/ledgersmb/admin.pl

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ian Murray
4 million unique machines do not agree with you, regardless of what you want to believe. I don't think the machines have an opinion, either way. :o) Seriously, I suppose you are using the '4 million machines we must be doing something right' argument which is fair comment, if perhaps a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Robert
Johnny Hughes wrote: snip If you mean that I can be an arrogant SOB sometimes, then YES, we (and my wife) can agree. Before making an admission like that, you should re-read http://wwwf.centos.org/127_story.html?storyid=127 I thought then and think now that you were 'way too humble in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ian Murraymurra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I can't say I have been following this thread in its entirety, but the beauty (?) of free speech is that even the ill-informed get to have a say. :o) Anyway, I think there is a general problem with the name Community

Re: [CentOS-es] Solicitud de manual para instalacion y configuaraacion de squid

2009-08-08 Thread Rafael Guillermo Dipré Peña
busca en alcancelibre http://www.alcancelibre.org en la seccion de descargas el manual implementacion de servidores linux tiene eso y mucho mas El 7 de agosto de 2009 17:54, Carla Paulina Fernández Morocho cpaul...@hotmail.com escribió: Buenos dias con todos Por favor si me pueden ayudar

Re: [CentOS-es] Virtualización en Linux

2009-08-08 Thread Krlos
Hola Víctor,   Bueno, la información que pedías estaba en el primer correo que envié pero de todas maneras lo repito:   Procesador: INTEL Core 2 Duo   RAM: variable a veces 4 actualmente 2 Gigas hay un problema con el hardware que impide que Centos (no sé si las otras distros también) no