Re: [CentOS-docs] About Simplified Chinese Translation

2010-07-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 10.07.10 07:55, schrieb gaohu:
 Three days ago, I send this mail to all of you , but till today , I get
 no response, So, any one get my idea?

Yes, but I am not sure that I really get what you want to do. If you
want to help with translation into simplified chinese, I'd advise
talking to Timothy Lee (maybe he wants to chime into this discussion),
as he is responsible for that at the moment.

Regards,

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Willing to contribute to the french translation

2010-07-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 10.07.10 20:10, schrieb Christian Vanguers:
 Hi there!
 
 I'm interested in joining  the CentOS French translation team.
 Is it possible to get in touch with the team ?

Is there a team? I see some vague beginnings, but no constant work :)

At the moment there's only Laurent Wandrebeck in the team. Laurent:
Are you still doing anything?

 Username : ChristianVanguers

Why not start with the ReleaseNotes?
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.5

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS-docs] About Simplified Chinese Translation

2010-07-10 Thread gaohu


Thanks a lot for your email.

So, If any one can give the appropriate right to edit wiki ?
I just know that if I request for a editing right, I should send
a mail to the Admin group, the I just do it.

Yes, I'm just want to response for the Simplified Chinese wiki maintenance, 
with Timothy Lee for the Traditional Chinese wiki maintenance.

before I send the first email to all of youl, I have coumminication 
with Timothy Lee, and we both feel wonderful, and if you can read
Chinese, the following is what we have sent to each other.

Just forgive my denfense !

Thank you very much!

--- this is Timothy's email in 2010/7/7---

高虎,

如果你可以�S�o���w wiki 的��,...@��在是求之不得!想信唯一要留意的地方,就是我��如何�_保繁�� wiki 
保持同步更新。也�S你可以�O�� zh-tw 文件的改�印N业脑O定�F�r�O�� wiki 上所有更新。

Timothy


2010/7/7 gaohu tigerhei...@gmail.com


您好,

我叫做高虎,居住在浙江省杭州市,2009年大学毕业于西安电子科技大学,现在在一个IT企业工作。

我看到CentOS上的中文文档是由您来维护的,但是好像您翻译简体中文是使用OpenOffice来完成的,所以有些地方可能不是太准确,有些还是保留为繁体,所以我想帮助您处理一下简体中文文档的维护工作,因为我本身是大陆这边的,所以使用简体的时候更多一些,也应该对简体中文的习惯了解一些。不知道您是不是同意。

请尽快回复,多谢。

2010-07-07 



gaohu 



2010-07-10 



gaohu 



发件人: Ralph Angenendt 
发送时间: 2010-07-10  16:33:49 
收件人: centos-docs 
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主题: Re: [CentOS-docs] About Simplified Chinese Translation 
Am 10.07.10 07:55, schrieb gaohu:
 Three days ago, I send this mail to all of you , but till today , I get
 no response, So, any one get my idea?
Yes, but I am not sure that I really get what you want to do. If you
want to help with translation into simplified chinese, I'd advise
talking to Timothy Lee (maybe he wants to chime into this discussion),
as he is responsible for that at the moment.
Regards,
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Re: [CentOS-es] Resumen de CentOS-es, Vol 43, Enví o 24

2010-07-10 Thread jorge_dlp
gracias por tu sugerencia

SALUDOS LISTA

 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:32:45 +0200
 From: Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] version de centos
 To: centos-es@centos.org
 Message-ID:
   aanlktinasnkxkwod7co_npid76jiexvoj5nrvkow3...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Hola,
 
 2010/7/9 jorge_dlp jorge_...@prodigy.net.mx:
  hola lista
 
   tengo planiado instalar centos como server principalmente tendre instalado
    postgres, dns y otros servicios
 
     tengo dos preguntas
 
    1  ¿que version de centos me recomiendas para esta actividad?
 
 La última serie, 5.5.
 
    2  mi presupuesto es reducido tengo planiado instalar un procesador
       amd 2 nucleos ¿cual me recomiendan?
 
 El más alto según tu presupuesto. Yo compraría que tuviera los flags
 de virtualización, por si un día te hace falta.
 
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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-10 Thread mattias
So ubuntu is not supported?
Ok but you can insstall it
But i understand how you meen

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Am 10.07.2010 01:59, schrieb mattias:

 How can vmware run more stable on centos and not on ubuntu?
 I meen
 Usb works fine on centos but not on ubuntu

VMware is a company, not a specific product.

One (CentOS) may be supprted, the other (Ubuntu) not.

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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-10 Thread mattias
What do you meen?
abandoned ?

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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not talking about VMware Server 2.x because VMware has abandoned 
 it, although I use it on CentOS 5.5 with some workarounds.


Can you expand on that?  Did they abandon VMWare Server altogether, or just
version 2?

I'm still using version 1.08, and it works fine, except that Win XP SP3
won't Hibernate or Stand-by due to an incompatibility with one of the VMWare
drivers.  I was using the VMWare save machine state, but it turns out that
shutdown and reboot is faster

Let us know  :-)

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Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors and Shuttle

2010-07-10 Thread Ned Slider
On 10/07/10 03:07, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 On Friday 09 July 2010 21:37, listmail wrote:

 I'm trying to get lm_sensors to work on a Shuttle with an AMD K10.
 The version of lm_sensors in the main CentOS repo is 2.10.7, which is
 two years old now. Support for the K10 was added about a year ago.

 So, does anyone know if there are binaries available for more recent
 versions of lm_sensors?

 The version at ElRepo works with my Phenom II:
 http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/i386/RPMS/lm_sensors-2.10.8-2.el5.elrepo.i386.rpm


ELRepo also has a kernel module for the AMD K10 core temperature sensor:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-k10temp



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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Lanny Marcuslmmailingli...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
snip
 you should ba able to list all installed rpms from OO.org with this command:
 rpm -qa | grep -P 'openoffice|ooobasis'

 you then want to feed these packages to 'rpm -e' (erase, ie uninstall).


Nicolas: Three questions:

Question #1: Do I have the correct CentOS version of OpenOffice
installed now and are there any other OpenOffice packages I need to
install with yum?

Question #2: What yum command can I use, to install everything in the
OpenOffice Group, such as writer, calc, and many other packages?

Question #3:  What yum command should I use (the one below obviously
is not correct) to install the Applications/Office menus? (If I can do
that, I suspect this will work properly again)

I had removed (with yum) openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-noarch
0:3.1-9393 because I got a long list of Transaction Errors Thursday
night, when trying to install OpenOffice with yum and that's probably
why there's nothing in Applications/Office for the OpenOffice.org
Applications now.

Thank you, again, for your time and help. Much appreciated! Lanny


[r...@dell2400 ~]# yum install openoffice.org-core
snip
Setting up Install Process
Package 1:openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.5.el5_5.1.i386 already
installed and latest version
Nothing to do

[r...@dell2400 ~]# yum install openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus
snip
No package openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus available.
Nothing to do
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg 
 nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Lanny Marcuslmmailingli...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
 snip
 You can use yum to remove what was manually installed via rpm.
 # yum remove 'openoffice*'

Ross: Thank you. I see the asterisk and  single quote marks.  Probably
the other problem is that I deleted the openoffice.org redhat menus
package Thursday night. Lanny
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[CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi,

I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The 
network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the 
idea.

1) Authentication should be managed centrally on the server.

2) User home directories should also be on the server.

3) Users should all have disk quotas, something like 1 GB per user.

4) Some shared directories should be read/write for a defined group of 
users (teachers) and read-only for others.

So far, I've only dealt with local authentication. I have a little 
practice in basic setups of Samba and NFS and managed to get these to 
work OK. On the other hand, I've never worked with NIS, LDAP or the likes.

My question is more general, and I don't want to go into technical 
details. According to the KISS principle, which solution would you 
recommend (or explicitly *not* recommend)? A mix of LDAP and Samba? Or 
NIS and NFS? And what's this thing called Directory Server, which 
vaguely sounds like it's the right way to go?

Any suggestions?

Cheers from the hot South of France,

Niki
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[CentOS] wlan

2010-07-10 Thread mattias
How to search after wlans using command prompt
I have no gui


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Re: [CentOS] wlan

2010-07-10 Thread Niki Kovacs
mattias a écrit :
 How to search after wlans using command prompt

# iwlist scan
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Re: [CentOS] wlan

2010-07-10 Thread mattias
Thanks
My last question
How to connect?

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 How to search after wlans using command prompt

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Re: [CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Niki Kovacs cont...@kikinovak.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The
 network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the
 idea.

 1) Authentication should be managed centrally on the server.
 2) User home directories should also be on the server.
 3) Users should all have disk quotas, something like 1 GB per user.
 4) Some shared directories should be read/write for a defined group of
 users (teachers) and read-only for others.

We have a similar setup with OpenLDAP and NFS. Works OK, except all
directories defined are home to the users, and only their owner can
read them. Adding users or changing passwords is an admin-only hassle,
because we have never found a user management tool for LDAP which was
convincingly able to be given away to teachers.

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Re: [CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 10, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Niki Kovacs cont...@kikinovak.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The 
 network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the 
 idea.
 
 1) Authentication should be managed centrally on the server.

Use some type of directory service (LDAP/NIS) coupled with an authentication 
service like Kerberos.

Basically keep passwords out of the directory and you need to have a Kerberos 
ticket to access the directory.

 2) User home directories should also be on the server.

Not a problem, you can share these out via NFS and/or Samba.

 3) Users should all have disk quotas, something like 1 GB per user.

Also not a problem to setup quotas and use rquotad to remotely query these from 
NFS clients. Samba has builtin support for quotas.

 4) Some shared directories should be read/write for a defined group of 
 users (teachers) and read-only for others.

Standard posix perms can take care of that, for finer grained perms you can use 
ACLs.

 So far, I've only dealt with local authentication. I have a little 
 practice in basic setups of Samba and NFS and managed to get these to 
 work OK. On the other hand, I've never worked with NIS, LDAP or the likes.

NIS is easier then LDAP and might be a good quick-n-dirty way to get going 
initially. Just use a separate authentication service like Kerberos and keep 
passwords out of the directory service.

 My question is more general, and I don't want to go into technical 
 details. According to the KISS principle, which solution would you 
 recommend (or explicitly *not* recommend)? A mix of LDAP and Samba? Or 
 NIS and NFS? And what's this thing called Directory Server, which 
 vaguely sounds like it's the right way to go?

You can really mash all these technologies up.

If all clients are Linux then start with NFS/NIS/Kerberos then as things grow 
you can look to move to LDAP.

The Directory Server is a turn-key package for implementing LDAP plus 
Kerberos with a pre-established LDAP schema and tools to manage it.

Definitely worth taking a look at. Personally I don't have experience with it 
so can't recommend or not recommend it.

You COULD also have a Windows Active Directory server to provide LDAP and 
Kerberos services to your Linux environment. They definitely have nice 
management tools. MS for not-for-profit is dirt cheap. Run it as a 
VMware/VirtualBox/KVM/Xen VM. Hell, run the whole server as an ESXi host and 
have multiple VMs for redundancy/load spreading.

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Re: [CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:59:44 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The 
 network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the 
 idea.
 
 1) Authentication should be managed centrally on the server.

LDAP (install openldap-servers on the server, install openldap-clients
on the clients).

 
 2) User home directories should also be on the server.

NFS (everything you need is installed by default)

 
 3) Users should all have disk quotas, something like 1 GB per user.

ext2/ext3 (everything you need is installed by default)

 
 4) Some shared directories should be read/write for a defined group of 
 users (teachers) and read-only for others.

Standard UNIX uid/gid, served by LDAP, and handled by NFS.

 
 So far, I've only dealt with local authentication. I have a little 
 practice in basic setups of Samba and NFS and managed to get these to 
 work OK. On the other hand, I've never worked with NIS, LDAP or the likes.

LDAP is pretty straightforward.  There is a quite good article about
setting up LDAP (OpenLDAP) and migrating from file-based authentication
on the RedHat RHEL documentation site (this applys equally well to
CentOS).

 
 My question is more general, and I don't want to go into technical 
 details. According to the KISS principle, which solution would you 
 recommend (or explicitly *not* recommend)? A mix of LDAP and Samba? Or 
 NIS and NFS? And what's this thing called Directory Server, which 
 vaguely sounds like it's the right way to go?

LDAP and NFS.  Samba really only makes sense if you are serving
MS-Windows and/or Macs.  Samba would be combersome in a pure-Linux
environment.  NFS would propagate standard UNIX permissions
transparently.  You could also use automount to reduce 'clutter' (only
mount what is needfull on an as-needed basis). 

Visit:

http://www.deepsoft.com/2009/08/setting-up-thin-clients-at-the-wendell-free-library-part-1/

For an article on how I set things up at our local Library.  While this
article mostly covers a server serving a bunch of *diskless*
workstations, many of the basic ideas also apply to a situation with
workstations with local disks.

 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Cheers from the hot South of France,
 
 Niki
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Re: [CentOS] wlan

2010-07-10 Thread Niki Kovacs
mattias a écrit :
 Thanks
 My last question
 How to connect?
 

Simple use 'iwconfig' instead of 'ifconfig'.

'man iwconfig' for the gory details.

:o)

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Re: [CentOS] wlan

2010-07-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:17:14 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Thanks
 My last question
 How to connect?

Edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth?, then 'ifup eth?'.

 
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Re: [CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The 
 network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the 
 idea.
 
 1) Authentication should be managed centrally on the server.
 
 2) User home directories should also be on the server.
 
 3) Users should all have disk quotas, something like 1 GB per user.
 
 4) Some shared directories should be read/write for a defined group of 
 users (teachers) and read-only for others.
 
 So far, I've only dealt with local authentication. I have a little 
 practice in basic setups of Samba and NFS and managed to get these to 
 work OK. On the other hand, I've never worked with NIS, LDAP or the likes.
 
 My question is more general, and I don't want to go into technical 
 details. According to the KISS principle, which solution would you 
 recommend (or explicitly *not* recommend)? A mix of LDAP and Samba? Or 
 NIS and NFS? And what's this thing called Directory Server, which 
 vaguely sounds like it's the right way to go?
 
 Any suggestions?

You might want to look at ClearOS before tackling this yourself.  It is 
CentOS-based but comes up with a slick web based administration program and 
uses 
LDAP for authentication out of the box.  It uses openldap and I think it is 
integrated with samba so you could use windows clients if you wanted.  On 
something of that scale I don't think you'd have to worry about the performance 
or replication differences in openldap or directory server - the administrative 
tools you use will be more important.

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[CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
I've been reading that it's possible to set up a system with multiple
NIC to provide redundant internet connectivity such that it will
switch to a secondary connection if the primary ISP fails.

Is it possible in a similar way to setup redundant LAN routing? I read
that it is possible to aggregate/bond multiple NIC to stackable
switches that support link aggregation and redundancy. But if only
simple switches are available, is something like this possible?

e.g.
System A
eth0 - lan switch/router 1
eth1 - lan switch/router 2

System B
eth0 - lan switch 1
eth1 - lan switch 2

Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
network continues to remain operational.
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Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Boris Epstein
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin
centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been reading that it's possible to set up a system with multiple
 NIC to provide redundant internet connectivity such that it will
 switch to a secondary connection if the primary ISP fails.

 Is it possible in a similar way to setup redundant LAN routing? I read
 that it is possible to aggregate/bond multiple NIC to stackable
 switches that support link aggregation and redundancy. But if only
 simple switches are available, is something like this possible?

 e.g.
 System A
 eth0 - lan switch/router 1
 eth1 - lan switch/router 2

 System B
 eth0 - lan switch 1
 eth1 - lan switch 2

 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
 switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
 network continues to remain operational.
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I'd think for this to be possible you will need a router with multiple
WAN addresses/interfaces... I am not sure how that pertains to your
LAN per se.

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] Simple solution for small network in a school ?

2010-07-10 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On 7/10/10, Niki Kovacs cont...@kikinovak.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I have to install a small network in a school in a nearby village. The
 network will be Linux-only, one server and fifteen desktops. Here's the
 idea.

KISS Princple: ext3 with ACL enabled (better xfs/zfs -- in centos if
available) with a script for adding users wrapping the newusers.And
oh, gulsterefs or whatever if you want to throw in hpc.. y'know R and
renderers just love hpc and children would love their animation coming
up so fast...

A million dollar Idea if all the nodes had hard disks.. [sigh.. this
wrong way to promote business in this list...]

HTH

Regards,

Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:21:50AM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:

 e.g.
 System A
 eth0 - lan switch/router 1
 eth1 - lan switch/router 2
 
 System B
 eth0 - lan switch 1
 eth1 - lan switch 2
 
 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
 switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
 network continues to remain operational.

If you're clever with scripting and iproute2 commands, rules and multiple
routing tables, and everything's Linux, this is certainly doable. You could
have your System A ping System B's IP via eth0 every minute, and on failure
reassign its default route and IP to eth1. Meanwhile you can set up rules and
routes on System B so that whichever NIC traffic comes in on, the response
will use the same NIC ... stuff you'll find if you google around for how to
be dual-homed between ISPs is quite applicable here.

It's too complex to work it out for you in detail without spending an hour
on it. But I've done this sort of thing and had it work very well.

Whit
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Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors and Shuttle

2010-07-10 Thread listmail
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:48:50 +0100, Ned Slider wrote
 On 10/07/10 03:07, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
  On Friday 09 July 2010 21:37, listmail wrote:
 
  I'm trying to get lm_sensors to work on a Shuttle with an AMD K10.
  The version of lm_sensors in the main CentOS repo is 2.10.7, which is
  two years old now. Support for the K10 was added about a year ago.
 
  So, does anyone know if there are binaries available for more recent
  versions of lm_sensors?
 
  The version at ElRepo works with my Phenom II:
 
http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/i386/RPMS/lm_sensors-2.10.8-2.el5.elrepo.i386.rpm
 
 
 ELRepo also has a kernel module for the AMD K10 core temperature sensor:
 
 http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-k10temp

Many thanks to both Yves and Ned for the pointers. After installing
lm_sensors-2.10.8.-2 from elrepo, then installing the necessary drivers (also
from elrepo) for the sensors on my Shuttle SA76G2, the readings are now
available. For anyone else who runs into this, the SA76G2 needs the it87 and
k10temp kernel drivers.

Now I just have to get the ranges set correctly. Unfortunately, Shuttle
publishes absolutely nothing in the way of documentation, and their tech
support people refuse to provide information, claiming that it is proprietary.
I guess I'll post it in their user forums once I figure which measurements are
meaningful.

Thanks Again,
--Bill

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Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On 7/11/10, Emmanuel Noobadmin centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been reading that it's possible to set up a system with multiple
 NIC to provide redundant internet connectivity such that it will
 switch to a secondary connection if the primary ISP fails.

 Is it possible in a similar way to setup redundant LAN routing? I read
 that it is possible to aggregate/bond multiple NIC to stackable
 switches that support link aggregation and redundancy. But if only
 simple switches are available, is something like this possible?

 e.g.
 System A
 eth0 - lan switch/router 1
 eth1 - lan switch/router 2

 System B
 eth0 - lan switch 1
 eth1 - lan switch 2

 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
 switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
 network continues to remain operational.


hmm.. lartc.org comes to mind to begin with...

duh.. that was too primitive. pfSense perhaps...

But then there is untangle if you want to pay them..

etc. etc.

Regards,

Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Jerry Franz
On 7/10/2010 2:21 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
 I've been reading that it's possible to set up a system with multiple
 NIC to provide redundant internet connectivity such that it will
 switch to a secondary connection if the primary ISP fails.

 Is it possible in a similar way to setup redundant LAN routing? I read
 that it is possible to aggregate/bond multiple NIC to stackable
 switches that support link aggregation and redundancy. But if only
 simple switches are available, is something like this possible?

 e.g.
 System A
 eth0 -  lan switch/router 1
 eth1 -  lan switch/router 2

 System B
 eth0 -  lan switch 1
 eth1 -  lan switch 2

 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
 switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
 network continues to remain operational.

Yes. You can do it. I've done it before. All you need is the right 
choice of bonding mode . You set up bond0 for eth0 and eth1 and it 'just 
works'. To make it more robust, cross-connect the two switches as well.

-- 
Benjamin Franz
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Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll read up more about them. The
bond0 and just works sounds simple which is a Good Thing!  The problem
was the last time I tried to cross connect multiple switches,
everything just died so there must be something a bit more involved?
:D

In the mean time since my post, I came across STP (spanning tree
protocol) that seems to be designed to handle this sort of thing, i.e.
figure out the shortest path and prevent network shortcircuit like
what I had experienced with cross connecting multiple switches.

But it apparently takes 50 seconds to reconfigure anytime sometime in
the circuit fails. There is supposedly a Rapid STP that only takes 3
seconds. Several couple-of-years old search results indicate that it
was tested in 2.4 kernel and will be in 2.6 kernel. However, I cannot
seem to find anything newer that confirms if such functionality is
really in the current kernel. Anybody has any idea?



On 7/11/10, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote:
 On 7/10/2010 2:21 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
 I've been reading that it's possible to set up a system with multiple
 NIC to provide redundant internet connectivity such that it will
 switch to a secondary connection if the primary ISP fails.

 Is it possible in a similar way to setup redundant LAN routing? I read
 that it is possible to aggregate/bond multiple NIC to stackable
 switches that support link aggregation and redundancy. But if only
 simple switches are available, is something like this possible?

 e.g.
 System A
 eth0 -  lan switch/router 1
 eth1 -  lan switch/router 2

 System B
 eth0 -  lan switch 1
 eth1 -  lan switch 2

 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will
 switch to using switch 2 so that in case of a switch failure, the
 network continues to remain operational.

 Yes. You can do it. I've done it before. All you need is the right
 choice of bonding mode . You set up bond0 for eth0 and eth1 and it 'just
 works'. To make it more robust, cross-connect the two switches as well.

 --
 Benjamin Franz
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Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors and Shuttle

2010-07-10 Thread S.Tindall

On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 18:47 -0700, listmail wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:48:50 +0100, Ned Slider wrote
  On 10/07/10 03:07, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
  
   The version at ElRepo works with my Phenom II:
  
 http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/i386/RPMS/lm_sensors-2.10.8-2.el5.elrepo.i386.rpm
  
  
  ELRepo also has a kernel module for the AMD K10 core temperature sensor:
  
  http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-k10temp
 
 Many thanks to both Yves and Ned for the pointers. After installing
 lm_sensors-2.10.8.-2 from elrepo, then installing the necessary drivers (also
 from elrepo) for the sensors on my Shuttle SA76G2, the readings are now
 available. For anyone else who runs into this, the SA76G2 needs the it87 and
 k10temp kernel drivers.
 
 Now I just have to get the ranges set correctly. Unfortunately, Shuttle
 publishes absolutely nothing in the way of documentation, and their tech
 support people refuse to provide information, claiming that it is proprietary.
 I guess I'll post it in their user forums once I figure which measurements are
 meaningful.

Since the elrepo kmod-k10temp/lm_sensors packages worked, then you may
also benefit from the elrepo kmod-powernow-k8 package.

With AMD Phenom II quad-cores running centos 5, kmod-powernow-k8
typically gives a 8-10C drop in core temperature at idle and a
significant reduction in power consumption at idle as described in this
centos bug report:

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3766

You will also likely notice that your cpu fan slows down at idle. It is
worth installing the kmod if just to quieten down the cpu fan.

As per the bug report, this issue should be fixed in rhel/centos 5.6

Steve


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