Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6

2011-04-13 Thread Manuel Wolfshant

On 04/14/2011 03:10 AM, Hardy Beltran Monasterios wrote:


Hello

A couple of days ago, I did the Spanish translation for ReleaseNotes 
CentOS 5.6

and I have some questions

Right now, in the Spanish version we are using nice icons for Notes.
Would you like the same in the English and other translated versions ?
(I know that is not important, just looks nice ;-) )

As long as we are consistent in the wiki and we do not make it look as 
colored as a parrot, I like this idea.




On many places we mention packages names or file names. I suggest
use {{{typewriter}} style for this, to better reading/understand.

My wiki-foo is weak. Can you provide more details please, so that I do 
not go hunting for documentation ?





Some time ago, we talk about some common parts in all the translated 
versions.
And we started to use marks #begin- #end- Right now, we 
don't have
this marks for the Translations subtitle in the original version. We 
should use

I think.

You cannot do that because the translations section must include [*]  
the language names expressed in the language of the translation. For 
instance in the Romanian release notes I would use
 * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Spaniola] (Español) - 
[:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran]

while in the Spanish version you should use
 * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Rumano] (Romana) - 
[:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran]



[*] Unless we decide to not do that





By the way, I need help to use 'Include macro', all my tries were 
unsuccessful



Get inspiration from the Romanian and French translations. I am lazy so 
in step 1 I bookmarked the lists of packages for the English version and 
in step 2 I included the lists as such ( using bookmarks ) in those two 
translations. You can simply copy/paste the relevant lines.




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Re: [CentOS-es] Rv: bind + active directory y win7

2011-04-13 Thread Oscar Osta Pueyo
Si que llegan tranquilo. Es posible que nadie pueda ayudarte.
El 13/04/2011 00:17, Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es
escribió:
 holla?
 hay alquien aqui no toy seguro si mis mail llegan o son muy basicos por
que no recibo respuestas...
 saludos
 Atte Jose Manuel

 GPG Key ID: UBCMEOLVQMHEILINJBE


 --- El mar, 12/4/11, Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es
escribió:

 De: Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es
 Asunto: [CentOS-es] bind + active directory y win7
 Para: centos-es@centos.org
 Fecha: martes, 12 de abril, 2011 17:58
 Hola ya son varios dias que toy
 peleando con mi DNS.
 la idea es usar un dns en centos que ya lo tengo
 configurado, integrarlo a active directory que esta bajo win
 2008.
 los clientes deben logear al controlador de dominio de
 win2008 y usar dns que esta en centos, el probema que tengo
 es que sin el controlador el cliente puede conectar al dns,
 pero una vez configurado para que integre con AD, win7 no
 logea y me sale un mensaje de error no se pudo conectar al
 DNS DNS detectado.
 alguien tiene alguna referencia para solucionar este
 problema?
 Atte Jose Manuel

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[CentOS-es] PHP- Con soporte para zend framework

2011-04-13 Thread Javier Castellanos
Un saludos para todos ..

Esto me los recomendo alguien aqui en la lista :

 Bueno lo único q te queda es poner la librería en una carpeta y
modificar el basedir en el php.ini para q cualquier script encuentre
la librería de Zend 

pero no se que debo hacer para que funcione, podrian ustedes explicarme 
detalladamente como hacerlo, ojo mi unico interes es que php cargue las 
librerias de zend para que cualquier script que las necesite pueda funcionar, 
no instalar zendframework ...gracias de antemeno

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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Hardy Beltran Monasterios
El 10/04/11 17:42, Marcelo Aguirre escribió:
 Estimados Amigos:

 Actualmente tengo dos servidores DELL T710 12 Gb Ram y Raid 5 (4
 discos de 500 Gb), mas una uniad  de Cinta LT03. Uno de ellos posee
 Centos 5.5 y queria consultarles la mejor forma de crear imagen del
 servidor Centos y si es posible replicarlo en el segundo servidor.

Para mi la mejor forma es usar MondoRescue, para obtener una imagen del 
servidor y restaurarla en el otro. Como ambos tienen el mismo hardware 
es mas sensillo aún.

http://www.*mondorescue*.org/

Sólo una pregunta, ¿ tu RAID 5 usa los 4 discos ?. Si la respuesta es 
afirmativa, mi consejo es que vuelvas a reconfigurar tu RAID 5, que uses 
sólo 3 discos y dejes 1 como repuesto (spare disk). Ahora si puedes 
comprarte otro disco igual, ya mismo, entonces no es necesario 
considerar mi sugerencia.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Jorge Patiño Camargo
Hola a todos, 
Buen día,

Recién me estoy iniciando en el manejo del Centos ver 5.5, nose si tendrán 
alguna liga de donde bajar información técnica para la administración / soporte 
de este sistema operativo, se los agradecería mucho,

Saludos y gracias

Jorge

-Mensaje original-
De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En 
nombre de Marcelo Aguirre
Enviado el: martes, 12 de abril de 2011 10:32 a.m.
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en 
Otro Servidor Identico

Gracias, probare los comandos

MArcelo

El 11 de abril de 2011 19:51, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez  
cen...@nuestroserver.com escribió:

 carlos restrepo wrote:
  utiliza dd, man dd para mas info.
 rsync ? no sirve para cinta... quizá tar o star, son buenísimos.

 saludos
 epe


 
  El 10 de abril de 2011 16:42, Marcelo Aguirremaguirre...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 
  Estimados Amigos:
 
  Actualmente tengo dos servidores DELL T710 12 Gb Ram y Raid 5 (4 
  discos de 500 Gb), mas una uniad  de Cinta LT03. Uno de ellos posee 
  Centos 5.5 y queria consultarles la mejor forma de crear imagen del 
  servidor Centos y si es posible replicarlo en el segundo servidor.
 
  Muchas Gracias por su ayuda
 
  Marcelo Aguirre
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Re: [CentOS-es] Rv: bind + active directory y win7

2011-04-13 Thread Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas
oky gracias
Atte Jose Manuel

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--- El mié, 13/4/11, Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com escribió:

 De: Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com
 Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Rv: bind + active directory y win7
 Para: centos-es@centos.org
 Fecha: miércoles, 13 de abril, 2011 08:07
 Si que llegan tranquilo. Es posible
 que nadie pueda ayudarte.
 El 13/04/2011 00:17, Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es
 escribió:
  holla?
  hay alquien aqui no toy seguro si mis mail llegan o
 son muy basicos por
 que no recibo respuestas...
  saludos
  Atte Jose Manuel
 
  GPG Key ID: UBCMEOLVQMHEILINJBE
 
 
  --- El mar, 12/4/11, Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas
 jose_t...@yahoo.es
 escribió:
 
  De: Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es
  Asunto: [CentOS-es] bind + active directory y
 win7
  Para: centos-es@centos.org
  Fecha: martes, 12 de abril, 2011 17:58
  Hola ya son varios dias que toy
  peleando con mi DNS.
  la idea es usar un dns en centos que ya lo tengo
  configurado, integrarlo a active directory que
 esta bajo win
  2008.
  los clientes deben logear al controlador de
 dominio de
  win2008 y usar dns que esta en centos, el probema
 que tengo
  es que sin el controlador el cliente puede
 conectar al dns,
  pero una vez configurado para que integre con AD,
 win7 no
  logea y me sale un mensaje de error no se pudo
 conectar al
  DNS DNS detectado.
  alguien tiene alguna referencia para solucionar
 este
  problema?
  Atte Jose Manuel
 
  GPG Key ID: UBCMEOLVQMHEILINJBE
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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2011/4/12 Jorge Patiño Camargo jorge.pat...@promujer.org:
 Hola a todos,
 Buen día,

 Recién me estoy iniciando en el manejo del Centos ver 5.5, nose si tendrán 
 alguna liga de donde bajar información técnica para la administración / 
 soporte de este sistema operativo, se los agradecería mucho,

Hola Jorge
Sin querer has secuestrado una conversación que era de otro tema,
por favor en adelante envía tus mensajes con el asunto
correspondiente, así tendrás más probabilidad de que te contesten.

Para  tu inquietud te recomiendo instalar los paquetes de
documentación en castellano en tu equipo. Por ejemplo,
haciendo como root:

yum install Deployment_Guide-es-ES

Te aparecerá la guía en castellano accesible en la zona de
documentación del menú del escritorio. Hay otros paquetes de
documentación, consulta con el comando yum search Guide.

Además cuentas con el wiki en castellano y otros recursos como los
foros. Todos estos recursos los puedes acceder desde tu navegador
Firefox instalado en CentOS, desde la carpeta llamada precisamente
CentOS en la barra de favoritos.


 Saludos y gracias

 Jorge

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[CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

2011-04-13 Thread Yurkis Isaac Ortiz
Tengo un Centos con 2 tarjetas de red y me dejó de reconocerla las dos. 
Traté de probar reinstalando pero tampoco las reconoce
Alguien me puede decir que puedo hacer 



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Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

2011-04-13 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
Yurkis Isaac Ortiz wrote:
 Tengo un Centos con 2 tarjetas de red y me dejó de reconocerla las dos.
 Traté de probar reinstalando pero tampoco las reconoce
 Alguien me puede decir que puedo hacer

lspci

te salen ahi en la lista?

saludos
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Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

2011-04-13 Thread Mario Villela Larraza
checa la direccion MAC de las tarjetas si a mi me paso lo mismo con un
server debian y lo que pasaba es que la direccion MAC de las tajetas estaba
en ceros toda 00.00.00.00.00.00.00 y hay que modificarla manualmente y
asignarle una direccion valida para poder levantarlas.

espero te sirva esto y suerte

El 13 de abril de 2011 11:14, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez 
cen...@nuestroserver.com escribió:

 Yurkis Isaac Ortiz wrote:
  Tengo un Centos con 2 tarjetas de red y me dejó de reconocerla las dos.
  Traté de probar reinstalando pero tampoco las reconoce
  Alguien me puede decir que puedo hacer

 lspci

 te salen ahi en la lista?

 saludos
 epe

 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

2011-04-13 Thread Yurkis Isaac Ortiz
proble con lspci y me salen pero no como configurarlas y demas, ejecuté 
setup en la consola y cuando le doy configurar red no me salen ninguno de 
los 2 dispositivos.

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Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

 checa la direccion MAC de las tarjetas si a mi me paso lo mismo con un
 server debian y lo que pasaba es que la direccion MAC de las tajetas 
 estaba
 en ceros toda 00.00.00.00.00.00.00 y hay que modificarla manualmente y
 asignarle una direccion valida para poder levantarlas.

 espero te sirva esto y suerte

 El 13 de abril de 2011 11:14, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez 
 cen...@nuestroserver.com escribió:

 Yurkis Isaac Ortiz wrote:
  Tengo un Centos con 2 tarjetas de red y me dejó de reconocerla las dos.
  Traté de probar reinstalando pero tampoco las reconoce
  Alguien me puede decir que puedo hacer

 lspci

 te salen ahi en la lista?

 saludos
 epe

 
 
 
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  Tel: 641406, 642008, 642044 Ext 136
 
 
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Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

2011-04-13 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
Yurkis Isaac Ortiz wrote:
 proble con lspci y me salen pero no como configurarlas y demas, ejecuté
 setup en la consola y cuando le doy configurar red no me salen ninguno de
 los 2 dispositivos.

y el tema de la MAC que te habla Mario?
ifconfig -a

será que los módulos de la tarjeta no existen para tu kernel? has 
probado actualizar? (con otra tarjeta o mediante un usb)

saludos
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:02 PM
 To:centos-es@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Dudas con mi Red

 checa la direccion MAC de las tarjetas si a mi me paso lo mismo con un
 server debian y lo que pasaba es que la direccion MAC de las tajetas
 estaba
 en ceros toda 00.00.00.00.00.00.00 y hay que modificarla manualmente y
 asignarle una direccion valida para poder levantarlas.

 espero te sirva esto y suerte

 El 13 de abril de 2011 11:14, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
 cen...@nuestroserver.com  escribió:

 Yurkis Isaac Ortiz wrote:
 Tengo un Centos con 2 tarjetas de red y me dejó de reconocerla las dos.
 Traté de probar reinstalando pero tampoco las reconoce
 Alguien me puede decir que puedo hacer
 lspci

 te salen ahi en la lista?

 saludos
 epe



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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Marcelo Aguirre
Hardy:

Podrias orientarme donde encontrar una guia de como instalar mondorescue, me
parecio muy interesante

Marcelo

El 11 de abril de 2011 09:48, Hardy Beltran Monasterios hbelt...@soltux.com
 escribió:

 El 10/04/11 17:42, Marcelo Aguirre escribió:
  Estimados Amigos:
 
  Actualmente tengo dos servidores DELL T710 12 Gb Ram y Raid 5 (4
  discos de 500 Gb), mas una uniad  de Cinta LT03. Uno de ellos posee
  Centos 5.5 y queria consultarles la mejor forma de crear imagen del
  servidor Centos y si es posible replicarlo en el segundo servidor.
 
 Para mi la mejor forma es usar MondoRescue, para obtener una imagen del
 servidor y restaurarla en el otro. Como ambos tienen el mismo hardware
 es mas sensillo aún.

 http://www.*mondorescue*.org/

 Sólo una pregunta, ¿ tu RAID 5 usa los 4 discos ?. Si la respuesta es
 afirmativa, mi consejo es que vuelvas a reconfigurar tu RAID 5, que uses
 sólo 3 discos y dejes 1 como repuesto (spare disk). Ahora si puedes
 comprarte otro disco igual, ya mismo, entonces no es necesario
 considerar mi sugerencia.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Hardy Beltran Monasterios
El 10/04/11 17:42, Marcelo Aguirre escribió:
 Estimados Amigos:

 Actualmente tengo dos servidores DELL T710 12 Gb Ram y Raid 5 (4
 discos de 500 Gb), mas una uniad  de Cinta LT03. Uno de ellos posee
 Centos 5.5 y queria consultarles la mejor forma de crear imagen del
 servidor Centos y si es posible replicarlo en el segundo servidor.

Para mi la mejor forma es usar MondoRescue, para obtener una imagen del 
servidor y restaurarla en el otro. Como ambos tienen el mismo hardware 
es mas sensillo aún.

http://www.*mondorescue*.org/

Sólo una pregunta, ¿ tu RAID 5 usa los 4 discos ?. Si la respuesta es 
afirmativa, mi consejo es que vuelvas a reconfigurar tu RAID 5, que uses 
sólo 3 discos y dejes 1 como repuesto (spare disk). Ahora si puedes 
comprarte otro disco igual, ya mismo, entonces no es necesario 
considerar mi sugerencia.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Hardy Beltran Monasterios
El 13/04/11 18:48, Marcelo Aguirre escribió:
 Hardy:

 Podrias orientarme donde encontrar una guia de como instalar mondorescue, me
 parecio muy interesante

 Marcelo
Marcelo:

En el sitio oficial, están los paquetes que debes descargar y la 
documentación que explica como usar.

Instalar es bastante sencillo, lo primero es bajar los paquetes RPM para 
CentOS

ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/rhel/5/

Y luego los instalas con un simple: rpm -ivh ... ... ó rpm -ivh *.rpm

Por ejemplo esto es lo que yo hize en un sistema de 64bits (x86_64):

rpm -ivh afio-2.4.7-1.x86_64.rpm buffer-1.19-1.x86_64.rpm 
mindi-busybox-1.7.3-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm mindi-2.0.7.5-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm 
mondo-2.2.9.4-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm

Luego revisa la documentación de como usarlo:
http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html

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Re: [CentOS-es] Backup y Replica completa de Servidor Centos 5.5 en Otro Servidor Identico

2011-04-13 Thread Marcelo Aguirre
Gracias,

Probare

Marcelo

El 13/04/11, Hardy Beltran Monasterios hbelt...@soltux.com escribió:
 El 13/04/11 18:48, Marcelo Aguirre escribió:
 Hardy:

 Podrias orientarme donde encontrar una guia de como instalar mondorescue,
 me
 parecio muy interesante

 Marcelo
 Marcelo:

 En el sitio oficial, están los paquetes que debes descargar y la
 documentación que explica como usar.

 Instalar es bastante sencillo, lo primero es bajar los paquetes RPM para
 CentOS

 ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/rhel/5/

 Y luego los instalas con un simple: rpm -ivh ... ... ó rpm -ivh *.rpm

 Por ejemplo esto es lo que yo hize en un sistema de 64bits (x86_64):

 rpm -ivh afio-2.4.7-1.x86_64.rpm buffer-1.19-1.x86_64.rpm
 mindi-busybox-1.7.3-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm mindi-2.0.7.5-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm
 mondo-2.2.9.4-1.rhel5.x86_64.rpm

 Luego revisa la documentación de como usarlo:
 http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html

 Exito !

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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Hinse
Am 13.04.2011 04:33, schrieb Keith Keller:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23:19AM +1000, Bob Hepple wrote:

 We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on
 (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at was
 zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to previous use of and liking
 of nagios.
 
 So, if I already have a working nagios that I like, are there any
 advantages to Opsview community?  I only have about 100 services I
 monitor, and I doubt it'd grow a huge amount in the near future.

You might have a look at the Icinga project (actually a nagios fork)
with a much nicer interface, API etc.

http://www.icinga.org

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 4/13/11, Brandon Ooi brand...@gmail.com wrote:

 centos 5 can expand raid 0/1/5. just not 6. 10 is just layered 0/1 so you
 can expand it.
 centos 6 will be able to expand raid6 as it was a feature in 2.6.20 or
 something.

This is where I'm getting confused. I had been reading up on mdadm,
torn between using RAID 5/6 for the ability to grow the array with
more disks and RAID 10 for better IOPS. The man pages itself says that
Currently  supported  growth options include changing the active size
of component devices and  changing  the  number  of  active devices
in RAID levels 1/4/5/6,

Along with other internet sources seems to imply that growing RAID 0
is not supported, and by therefore by extension neither is RAID 10.
Furthermore, I read on Neil Brown's blog that reshaping RAID 10 was a
planned but not implemented feature.

Is the difference here between using mdadm to directly create a RAID
10 vs manually layering on RAID 0 on RAID 1 devices?

Or is the expansion here limited to replacing the existing components
drive with larger ones, e.g. replacing four 1TB drives with four 2TB
drives so going from a 2TB to 4TB array?
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin
centos.ad...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 4/12/11, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote:
  But, our RAID10 is setup as a stripe of mirrors, i.e. sda1  sdb1 - md0,
  sdc1 + sdd1 -md1, then sde1 + sdf1 -md2, and finally md0 + md1 + md2
 are
  stripped. The advantage of this is that we can add more disks to the
 whole
  RAID set with no downtime

 Off-topic, but when you say add more disks, do you mean for the
 purpose of replacing failing disks or for expanding the array? I'm
 curious because on initial reading I read it to mean expanding the
 storage capacity of the array but thought it was currently not
 possible to expand a mdadm RAID 0 non-destructively.
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 to expand the array :)

I haven't had problems doing it this way yet.

The other way is to run LVM on top of the three md's, i.e pvcreate volume01
/dev/md0 /dev/md1 /dev/md2 etc. LVM expands very easily with no downtime
either.




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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Matthew Feinberg

Thank you everyone for the advice and great information. From what I am 
gathering XFS is the way to go.

A couple more questions.
What partitioning utility is suggested? parted and fdisk do not seem to 
be doing the job.

Raid Level. I am considering moving away from the raid6 due to possible 
write performance issues. The array is 22 disks. I am not opposed to 
going with raid10 but I am looking for a good balance of 
performance/capacity.

Hardware or software raid. Is there an advantage either way on such a 
large array?



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[CentOS] CentOS 5.6 and php53 packages

2011-04-13 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello fellow CentOS users,

until now I was using CentOS 5.5 with php 5.3 through this file:

# grep -v ^# /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Testing.repo
[c5-testing]
name=CentOS-5 Testing
baseurl=http://dev.centos.org/centos/$releasever/testing/$basearch/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://dev.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-testing
includepkgs=php*

Today I have updated to CentOS 5.6 by running yum update
and only after that (mea culpa!) I've noticed at
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6 -

  6.2. New packages in 5.6 that were not present in 5.5
  bind97
  hplip3
  php53

Do you think it is safe to remove /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Testing.repo
and run yum update again or will my Drupal 7 site burn and die?

Thanks
Alex
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Matthew Feinberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:29 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

Hardware or software raid. Is there an advantage either way on such a
large array?

Doesn't that depend on what sort of backup solution you're planning, and the
level of criticalness of the backups saved?

Some say that for more serious raid solutions, hardware is the way to go, while
software raids are sort of a middle-road.

Me, I usually go with software raid. I've had one too many hardware raid
failures where I haven't been able to restore the data contained. With software
raid a restore has always worked fine for me, especially broken raids in
Windows. While raid in Windows isn't overly performance-inclined, I've come to
appreciate the software ditto in linux - both performance and stability is
top-notch IMHO.

With today's CPU-performance and RAM available, software raids are not a problem
to power.

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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 4/13/11, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote:
 I haven't had problems doing it this way yet.

Thanks for the confirmation. Could you please outline the general
steps to expand an existing RAID 10 with another RAID 1 device?

I'm trying to test this out but unfortunately being the noob that I
am, all I have managed so far is a couple of /dev/loop raid 1 arrays
that cannot be deleted nor combined into a raid 0 array.
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Re: [CentOS] changing column widths in top?

2011-04-13 Thread Dag Wieers
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Simon Matter wrote:

 Htop looks interesting and I might try it on one of our other servers but
 on this one I only see the first 60 CPUs.

 I strongly recommend http://nmon.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php for such things.
 I have put my current src rpm here http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/nmon/

Hi Simon,

Thanks for posting that SRPM. It seems the nmon version in RPMforge lost 
track of nmon development. They do not appear to report new releases 
on freshmeat :-/

I have updated the release in RPMforge based on your SRPM.

Thanks again,
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Re: [CentOS] problems in centos-5.6

2011-04-13 Thread Farkas Levente
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:15, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote:
 Farkas Levente wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:36:15 +0200:

 these shouldn't have to be there (they are from older release):
 they are not there, check the official repo, rsyncing without delete flag?

they are there. may be you should have to check it again:-)

 these shouldn't have to be there (they are already in os):
 what do you mean by that? Of course, they are to be there. They are part
 of the OS, exactly. You have been using CentOS for a while and upgraded
 several times in the past, have you forgotten in the meantime how
 CentOS/RHEL upgrading works?

it seems you don't read what i wrote. i exactly know how the upgrade works.

 in centos version of these packages the dist tag comes from earlier
 release. even if they are the same package they should have to rebuild
 with the same dist tag as in rhel (eg: .el5 - .el5_4):
 these have not been updated, there is no reason to retag them

there is no reason to use wrong dist tag even in older release since
those dist tag
exists in the upstream src.rpm. so i'm not sure it's a bug in 5.6, may
be it was a
bug in older version.

 and a lots of updates still missing:

 you are looking for things that don't exist, e.g.
 libvirt-0.8.2-15.el5_6.1 is 0.8.2-15.el5.3

there were 2 updates and one of the missing from the updates.

 And Java isn't part of CentOS anymore, AFAIK.

it's simple not true.

 If you do not like the tagging/naming scheme. I'm pretty confident this is
 taken from upstreamm, you have to complain there.

i taken everything from upstream. may be you'd have to check things
before write anything.

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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-13 Thread Alain Péan
Le 13/04/2011 11:35, John Hodrien a écrit :
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:

 Le 12/04/2011 22:03, John Hodrien a écrit :
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:

 Indeed, nothing fails now. I want my users to authenticate against
 Active directory, and it works, and I would like them to be able to 
 use
 their kerberos credentials, if they need, to access domain ressources,
 as shares. But I have still to see a problem there..

 Thanks again for your help and your comments !

 So is it all working after taking out the ldap auth?  With it in
 you'll not be
 generating kerberos tickets if there's anything wrong with your 
 kerberos
 setup.

 jh

 No, you are right, things do not work as I expect. When I disable
 ldapauth, I cannot authenticate. So kerberos is not working.
 I have kerberos error messages with samba when I try to join AD domain
 with net ads join. But net rpc join succeeds.
 # net ads join -U pean -d3
 
 [2011/04/12 22:19:45.797972,  3] libads/sasl.c:790(ads_sasl_spnego_bind)
   ads_sasl_spnego_bind: got server principal name =
 pc-2003-test$@TEST-LPP.LOCAL
 [2011/04/12 22:19:45.798331,  3] libsmb/clikrb5.c:698(ads_krb5_mk_req)
   ads_krb5_mk_req: krb5_cc_get_principal failed (No credentials cache
 found)
 [2011/04/12 22:19:45.811493,  1] libsmb/clikrb5.c:710(ads_krb5_mk_req)
   ads_krb5_mk_req: smb_krb5_get_credentials failed for
 pc-2003-test$@TEST-LPP.LOCAL (Cannot find ticket for requested realm)
 

 Why 'no credential cache found' ?
 I would like to solve this annoying problem. Why it is no more working
 after upgrading to 5.6 ?

 I'm afraid you've cooked my brain with all the realms you've 
 mentioned, so I'm
 not entirely clear what's going on.

 It's complaining about your kdc.

 Is pc-2003-test the KDC for the TEST-LPP.LOCAL realm, or is it KDC for 
 the
 LAB-LPP.LOCAL realm?  Is its FQDN pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local?

 Without worrying about the join, does 'kinit username' work?

 jh

Hi John,

There are only two realms I mentionned, LAB-LPP.LOCAL, and 
TEST-LPP.LOCAL. I am currently doing test with the latter, and indeed, 
pc-2003-test is the AD DC, so the KDC for TEST-LPP.LOCAL. The fdqn is 
also pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local.

'kinit username' works,
[root@centos-test etc]# kinit pean
Password for pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL:
[root@centos-test etc]# klist
Ticket cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_0
Default principal: pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL

Valid starting ExpiresService principal
04/13/11 11:41:09  04/13/11 18:21:09  krbtgt/TEST-LPP.LOCAL@TEST-LPP.LOCAL


Kerberos 4 ticket cache: /tmp/tkt0
klist: You have no tickets cached

But nevertheless, it is asking for password when I issue the 'net ads 
join -U pean' command...

As you understood, my KDC server is a windows 2003 R2 Active directory 
server. I don't understand where it is looking for the credentials. I 
tried to create the krb5.keytab with ktpass on the windows server, and 
replace the one on the centos-test, but it does not work either. There 
is something, perhaps obvious, I miss. I also tried with 'validate = 
true' in /etc/krb5.conf, but with no success.

I found also that there is a 'krb5.conf.TEST-LPP' file in 
/var/lib/samba/smb_krb5, and this one is certainly used by samba (I 
replaced old version with samba3x, 3.5.4, and put 'kerberos method = 
secrets and keytab', instead of 'use kerberos keytab = true' that I used 
previously.

I don't know if you have, or anyone else, an idea ?

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-13 Thread John Hodrien

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:


Hi John,

There are only two realms I mentionned, LAB-LPP.LOCAL, and
TEST-LPP.LOCAL. I am currently doing test with the latter, and indeed,
pc-2003-test is the AD DC, so the KDC for TEST-LPP.LOCAL. The fdqn is
also pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local.

'kinit username' works,
[root@centos-test etc]# kinit pean
Password for pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL:
[root@centos-test etc]# klist
Ticket cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_0
Default principal: pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL

Valid starting ExpiresService principal
04/13/11 11:41:09  04/13/11 18:21:09  krbtgt/TEST-LPP.LOCAL@TEST-LPP.LOCAL


Kerberos 4 ticket cache: /tmp/tkt0
klist: You have no tickets cached

But nevertheless, it is asking for password when I issue the 'net ads
join -U pean' command...

As you understood, my KDC server is a windows 2003 R2 Active directory
server. I don't understand where it is looking for the credentials. I
tried to create the krb5.keytab with ktpass on the windows server, and
replace the one on the centos-test, but it does not work either. There
is something, perhaps obvious, I miss. I also tried with 'validate =
true' in /etc/krb5.conf, but with no success.


Have you tried with validate = false?

I'd expect that to work, but it's not what you want to be doing long term.


I found also that there is a 'krb5.conf.TEST-LPP' file in
/var/lib/samba/smb_krb5, and this one is certainly used by samba (I
replaced old version with samba3x, 3.5.4, and put 'kerberos method =
secrets and keytab', instead of 'use kerberos keytab = true' that I used
previously.


Does that config file conflict in any way with the system krb5.conf?


I don't know if you have, or anyone else, an idea ?


Ah, I'm using samba-common-3.0.33 for the join not samba3x, so there's
possibly some subtle differences.

The join is reliant on /etc/samba/smb.conf (and presumably that
krb5.conf.TEST-LPP) though, so you'd need to double check that's all correct.

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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-13 Thread Alain Péan
Le 13/04/2011 12:03, John Hodrien a écrit :
 On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:

 Hi John,

 There are only two realms I mentionned, LAB-LPP.LOCAL, and
 TEST-LPP.LOCAL. I am currently doing test with the latter, and indeed,
 pc-2003-test is the AD DC, so the KDC for TEST-LPP.LOCAL. The fdqn is
 also pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local.

 'kinit username' works,
 [root@centos-test etc]# kinit pean
 Password for pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL:
 [root@centos-test etc]# klist
 Ticket cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_0
 Default principal: pean@TEST-LPP.LOCAL

 Valid starting ExpiresService principal
 04/13/11 11:41:09  04/13/11 18:21:09  
 krbtgt/TEST-LPP.LOCAL@TEST-LPP.LOCAL


 Kerberos 4 ticket cache: /tmp/tkt0
 klist: You have no tickets cached

 But nevertheless, it is asking for password when I issue the 'net ads
 join -U pean' command...

 As you understood, my KDC server is a windows 2003 R2 Active directory
 server. I don't understand where it is looking for the credentials. I
 tried to create the krb5.keytab with ktpass on the windows server, and
 replace the one on the centos-test, but it does not work either. There
 is something, perhaps obvious, I miss. I also tried with 'validate =
 true' in /etc/krb5.conf, but with no success.

 Have you tried with validate = false?

 I'd expect that to work, but it's not what you want to be doing long 
 term.

I just tried, before reading your answer, and indeed, it works ! I can 
now connect without ldap, only kerberos in system-auth-ac (/etc/pam.d).


 I found also that there is a 'krb5.conf.TEST-LPP' file in
 /var/lib/samba/smb_krb5, and this one is certainly used by samba (I
 replaced old version with samba3x, 3.5.4, and put 'kerberos method =
 secrets and keytab', instead of 'use kerberos keytab = true' that I used
 previously.

 Does that config file conflict in any way with the system krb5.conf?
No, it is the newer syntax of 3.5.4, it's all.

 I don't know if you have, or anyone else, an idea ?

 Ah, I'm using samba-common-3.0.33 for the join not samba3x, so there's
 possibly some subtle differences.
No, it was the same with 3.0.33. I only tried with 3.5.4, when I saw 
that it failed with the previous version.

 The join is reliant on /etc/samba/smb.conf (and presumably that
 krb5.conf.TEST-LPP) though, so you'd need to double check that's all 
 correct.

I'll try know, with the change in /etc/krb5.conf (validate = false), if 
it works now.

Thanks for your help !

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

2011-04-13 Thread Mister IT Guru
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 22:23 -0400, Peter A wrote:
 On Monday, April 11, 2011 10:12:15 PM Antaryami Khuda wrote:
  I see um twitter dag's want to start his own RHEL rebuild.
  
  Dag how much monies you do need?
  
  I make contribution of 5.000 rupee if other join.
  
  Ant
 This is really disrespectful to talk about on here. The devs spent a ton of 
 their spare time to develop centos, last thing you should talk about is 
 starting competing projects... 
 
 Peter.

You have a point, but dammit - The world is changing. People expect
access to information when they hit the internet. As far as I see it, if
Dag wants to start his own project, he has my support, and buckets of
people from the RPM using world.

CentOS is an amazing project - but the truth is CentOS has it's own
objective, which what I understand is to maintain 100% binary
compatibility with RHEL.

I love this objective, but to be honest, as people who use open source
software, we above others should really understand that there is more
than one way to skin a cat. If Dag can get 100% binary compatibility
with an open build process that others can follow easily and contribute
to, you can bet your first born child that I will be there!

And to be honest - without competition, without urgency, where is the
motivation?


My final point is, does it really matter who gets us to the goal of 100%
binary compatibility? I see that as a challenge. I really wish I had the
knowledge to get going on this - It's a noble goal, and that goal,
rather than the methods used to achieve it should take priority. We
should get as many people on this as possible.

HEY ORACLE! We know you've been riding on RHEL all these years, get some
of your devs to give some free time dammit! :)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6 and php53 packages

2011-04-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/13/2011 08:59 AM, Alexander Farber wrote:
 Do you think it is safe to remove /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Testing.repo

yes,

 and run yum update again or will my Drupal 7 site burn and die?

You should be fine. the php53 is now in the main distro. The testing 
packages were put into the Testing repo so that people could do just 
that - test and see how their apps get along, before 5.6 gets released.

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/11/2011 06:58 AM:
 Also, the first batch of srpms is now on the seed machine, should start
 going public in about 8 - 12 hours ( this is [a-l]*.src.rpm ).

More like 72 hours and still no 5.6/os/SRPMS/ in evidence. Did the valve 
not get turned on?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6 and php53 packages

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/13/2011 02:59 AM, Alexander Farber wrote:
 Hello fellow CentOS users,
 
 until now I was using CentOS 5.5 with php 5.3 through this file:
 
 # grep -v ^# /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Testing.repo
 [c5-testing]
 name=CentOS-5 Testing
 baseurl=http://dev.centos.org/centos/$releasever/testing/$basearch/
 enabled=1
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=http://dev.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-testing
 includepkgs=php*
 
 Today I have updated to CentOS 5.6 by running yum update
 and only after that (mea culpa!) I've noticed at
 http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6 -
 
   6.2. New packages in 5.6 that were not present in 5.5
   bind97
   hplip3
   php53
 
 Do you think it is safe to remove /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Testing.repo
 and run yum update again or will my Drupal 7 site burn and die?

Unless you have an exclude=php* or exclude=php53 in your
CentOS-Base.repo, you likely have already upgraded.

The php53 rpms in the updates directory are
php53-5.3.3-1.el5_6.1.src.rpm wich is newer than the version that is in
testing (php53-5.3.3-1.el5.src.rpm)

If you do this, you can see which version is installed:

rpm -qa php53\*

You will likely see packages with el5_6.1 in the name.



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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/13/2011 11:51 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/11/2011 06:58 AM:
 Also, the first batch of srpms is now on the seed machine, should start
 going public in about 8 - 12 hours ( this is [a-l]*.src.rpm ).

 More like 72 hours and still no 5.6/os/SRPMS/ in evidence. Did the valve
 not get turned on?


They are definitely in there, just slow.

- KB
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Re: [CentOS] audio recorder compatibility

2011-04-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
ken wrote:
  As a confirmed Linux guy, I'd want to offload the audio files in some
 format that Linux can read/play natively.  I've read a sketchy
 suggestion that there's a  Linux app or utility to do a translation from
 WMA, http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127583, but I always like to
 keep things as simple as possible and so would much prefer avoiding the
 hassle and possible failure of conversion apps and Windows-format crap
 generally.

To those that replied with WMV/MP3 formats: Please READ the post 
CAREFULLY before you jump the gun.

NATIVE Linux format is for example .ogg, because Fedora/RHEL and few 
other distributions only use *OSS* codecs. MP3 and WMV are proprietary 
codecs, so they are not natively supported on LInux.


Many players can play FLAC Vorbis/OGG, but I can not see any that can 
record in FLAC or Vorbis.


Please visit
http://wiki.xiph.org/PortablePlayers and
to see what can fit your needs.

Also, try googling with:
vorbis +portable +voice +recorder -software and try to find detailed 
info or write to manufacturers.

You could also google for Vorbis encoding chips/processor and see who 
makes them and who buys them. I think that is the most important feature 
for portable encoder/recorder. MP3 encoder chips already exist for a 
long time.

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] problems in centos-5.6

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/13/2011 04:45 AM, Farkas Levente wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:15, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote:
 Farkas Levente wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:36:15 +0200:

 these shouldn't have to be there (they are from older release):
 they are not there, check the official repo, rsyncing without delete flag?
 
 they are there. may be you should have to check it again:-)
 
 these shouldn't have to be there (they are already in os):
 what do you mean by that? Of course, they are to be there. They are part
 of the OS, exactly. You have been using CentOS for a while and upgraded
 several times in the past, have you forgotten in the meantime how
 CentOS/RHEL upgrading works?
 
 it seems you don't read what i wrote. i exactly know how the upgrade works.
 
 in centos version of these packages the dist tag comes from earlier
 release. even if they are the same package they should have to rebuild
 with the same dist tag as in rhel (eg: .el5 - .el5_4):
 these have not been updated, there is no reason to retag them
 
 there is no reason to use wrong dist tag even in older release since
 those dist tag
 exists in the upstream src.rpm. so i'm not sure it's a bug in 5.6, may
 be it was a
 bug in older version.

The dist tag does NOT exist in the SRPM (that is, it is NOT hard coded
in the the SRPM), it is the variable dist and it set by the build
system.  This is another example of upstream releasing several updates
at the same time that were not really built at the same time and/or not
built on the same system and/or the dist variable is somehow set
dynamically an not normally by the build system.  This requires the
CentOS team to build these packages as one off builds with a special
dist set in our build system.  Sometimes we get it wrong as our updates
are built and tested in an automated fashion then we check them by hand
and deploy.  If dist was hard coded, then we would have the correct one.

We are aware of the older released dist tag issues.  However, there is
NO WAY to fix it until an upstream update occurs.  This is because
.el5_4 is newer than .el5 ... we therefore can not replace .el5_4 with
.el5 until there is a version bump upstream.

The dist tag being different is not something to be concerned about.

snip



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[CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Geoff Galitz


Hi.

There does not seem to be a php53-eaccelerator in standard Centos yum channels, 
from what I can see.  That is a mainstay for us.  Has anyone found that any 
particular php53-eacclerator from other locations play well with it?

Thanks.






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Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/12/2011 08:09 PM, Christopher J. Buckley wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 21:43, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote:
 Also, the upstream vendor provides no economical
 way to mirror RHEL updates on isolated networks - Satellite is out of
 the question. RHEL 4 updates must be painstakingly retrieved manually,
 one at a time, on the Internet machine before transport and
 distribution to internal networks
 
 Why not purchase RHN Proxy instead?
 

Dag has a product called mrepo that can mirror RHEL4 very easily.

http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/mrepo/




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[CentOS] update fuzzed display -- how to probe and force driver updates

2011-04-13 Thread David McGuffey
Did a yum update on a CentOS 5.5 box at home when I got back from a
business trip.  Update seemed to run without errors, but after a reboot,
the display is grainy and the colors are not true.

Have spent nearly all my time over the last couple of years working at
the network and virtualization layers on servers and have mostly ignored
the X subsystem running at home. So I'm not current with it or the tools
to configure it.

How do I force kudzu to detect the hardware and force a re-installation
of the proper drivers?

Dave M


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[CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-13 Thread Mailing List

Hi,

  I have upgraded my Dell C151 to the latest 5.6. I have always used 
ntp to sync this machine and then the rest of the machines in the 
network would sync from it. Since the update I cannot keep the right 
time on the machine. This is with / without ntp. I have attempted 
various scenario's with no luck. I am now trying the old kernel now as I 
type this out. If anyone else has any links or ideas that I should check 
out It would be greatly appreciated.


 Just a quick note about my setup. I do not use any gui. As 
mentioned I have not had any issues with this machine and it's time 
until I upgrade.


AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
3gb of ram.

TIA.

Brian.



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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-13 Thread John Hodrien

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:


I'll try know, with the change in /etc/krb5.conf (validate = false), if
it works now.


It won't (or at least it shouldn't).  Validate is essential as it confirms
that the KDC providing the TGT to the user is the same KDC that you registered
with when you joined the domain.  If you don't have that check, I believe it's
hideously insecure.

But the samba join is affected by many things.  /etc/hosts, /etc/krb5.conf,
/etc/samba/smb.conf are all well worth double checking for correctness.

So you've still got problems that need sorting.  If validate doesn't work,
then there are keytab issues.  The keytab only needs to contain a valid
principal for the domain, it doesn't even need to be a credential for that
machine.  Normally it *would* be for that machine, since you'd generate it
through a 'net ads join' with an appropriate smb.conf.


Thanks for your help !


No problem.

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Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Rainer Traut
 Hi.
 There does not seem to be a php53-eaccelerator in standard Centos yum
 channels, from what I can see. That is a mainstay for us. Has anyone
 found that any particular php53-eacclerator from other locations play
 well with it?
 Thanks.

Hi Geoff,

I have rebuild the one from remi's repo with some minor tweaks to pull 
in php53 stuff instead of php. It's not yet in production here but it 
works in testing... ymmv. Can give you the spec file if you want.

Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Raj kumar
ok

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Rainer Traut
Sent: 13 April 2011 17:57
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

 Hi.
 There does not seem to be a php53-eaccelerator in standard Centos yum
 channels, from what I can see. That is a mainstay for us. Has anyone
 found that any particular php53-eacclerator from other locations play
 well with it?
 Thanks.

Hi Geoff,

I have rebuild the one from remi's repo with some minor tweaks to pull 
in php53 stuff instead of php. It's not yet in production here but it 
works in testing... ymmv. Can give you the spec file if you want.

Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] Kerberos/LDAP authentication no more working in 5.6 ?

2011-04-13 Thread Alain Péan
Le 13/04/2011 14:05, John Hodrien a écrit :
 On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Alain Péan wrote:

 I'll try know, with the change in /etc/krb5.conf (validate = false), if
 it works now.

 It won't (or at least it shouldn't).  Validate is essential as it 
 confirms
 that the KDC providing the TGT to the user is the same KDC that you 
 registered
 with when you joined the domain.  If you don't have that check, I 
 believe it's
 hideously insecure.

You are right. It fails...


 But the samba join is affected by many things.  /etc/hosts, 
 /etc/krb5.conf,
 /etc/samba/smb.conf are all well worth double checking for correctness.

 So you've still got problems that need sorting.  If validate doesn't 
 work,
 then there are keytab issues.  The keytab only needs to contain a valid
 principal for the domain, it doesn't even need to be a credential for 
 that
 machine.  Normally it *would* be for that machine, since you'd 
 generate it
 through a 'net ads join' with an appropriate smb.conf.

Here are the appropriate files, enough simple :
# cat /etc/samba/smb.conf
# Test domaine test-lpp

# Global Parameters
[global]
   workgroup = TEST-LPP
   netbios name = centos-test
   server string = Samba Server %v
   security = ads
   realm = TEST-LPP.LOCAL
   #use kerberos keytab = true
   kerberos method = secrets and keytab
   passdb backend = tdbsam
   password server = *
   encrypt passwords = true
   client use spnego = no
   load printers = yes
   printing = cups
   printcap name = cups
   admin users = pean

# Partages
[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   read only = no
   browseable = no

(samba3x, 3.5.4). I added passdb backend = tdbsam following the original 
smb.conf file, but I don't know if this is necessary. It was not there 
previously.

# cat /etc/hosts
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
134.x1.y1.z1  centos-test.test-lpp.local  centos-test

# Serveur de domaine test-lpp.local
134.x2.y2.z2  pc-2003-test.test-lpp.localpc-2003-test
134.x3.y3.z3  dc1-test.test-lpp.localdc1-test

# cat /etc/krb5.conf
[logging]
 default = FILE:/var/log/krb5lib.log
 kdc = FILE:/var/log/krb5kdc.log
 admin_server = FILE:/var/log/kadmind.log

[libdefaults]
 ticket_lifetime = 24000
 default_realm = TEST-LPP.LOCAL
 default_tk_enctypes = des3-hmac-sha1 des-cbc-crc
 default_tgs_enctypes = des3-hmac-sha1 des-cbc-crc
 dns_lookup_realm = true
 dns_lookup_kdc = true

[realms]
 TEST-LPP.LOCAL = {
 kdc = pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local:88
 kdc = dc1-test.test-lpp.local:88
 #admin_server = pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local:749
 default_domain = TEST-LPP.LOCAL
 kpasswd_server = pc-2003-test.test-lpp.local
 kdc = *
 }

[domain_realm]
 .test-lpp.local = TEST-LPP.LOCAL
 test-lpp.local = TEST-LPP.LOCAL

[kdc]
 profile = /var/kerberos/krb5kdc/kdc.conf

[appdefaults]
  pam = {
debug = false
ticket_lifetime = 36000
renew_lifetime = 36000
forwardable = true
krb4_convert = false
validate = false
  }

If you see something wrong, let me know !
The resolv.conf file contains the name of the domain (search 
test-lpp.local), and the addresses of the AD servers of this domain, and 
only them... selinux and iptables are disabled

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 04:00 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

 With today's CPU-performance and RAM available, software raids are not a 
 problem
 to power.


That depends. Software raid is fine for raid1 and raid0. If you want 
raid5 or raid6, you have to use hardware raid with bbu cache that 
matches the size of the array notwithstanding the limiting to 10 disks 
max. consideration.

cpu performance/amount of RAM available is a non-issue and has been for 
a decade.
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Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

2011-04-13 Thread Calvin Webster
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 02:09 +0100, Christopher J. Buckley wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 21:43, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote:
  Also, the upstream vendor provides no economical
  way to mirror RHEL updates on isolated networks - Satellite is out of
  the question. RHEL 4 updates must be painstakingly retrieved manually,
  one at a time, on the Internet machine before transport and
  distribution to internal networks
 
 Why not purchase RHN Proxy instead?
 
Prohibitively expensive for our budget. We'd have to purchase 2 (one
external/internet and 1 internal/intranet) and I'd still have to
sneakernet the data and sync.

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Re: [CentOS] [Thank you!] IMHO only RHEL is better than CentOS...

2011-04-13 Thread Calvin Webster
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 06:11 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 04/12/2011 08:09 PM, Christopher J. Buckley wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 21:43, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote:
  Also, the upstream vendor provides no economical
  way to mirror RHEL updates on isolated networks - Satellite is out of
  the question. RHEL 4 updates must be painstakingly retrieved manually,
  one at a time, on the Internet machine before transport and
  distribution to internal networks
  
  Why not purchase RHN Proxy instead?
  
 
 Dag has a product called mrepo that can mirror RHEL4 very easily.
 
 http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/mrepo/

Hmm... wasn't aware of that. I'll take a look - thanks Johnny!

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Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Ilyas --
Hi!

If you need you can get php53 source rpm from next URL

http://yum.aclub.net/pub/linux/centos/5/umask/SRPMS/


there is php53 with suhosin patch, php-fpm support, suhosin extension,
eaccelerator support etc (see other php\* packages).

I'm using this packages on several production servers.

This package requires postgesql84-libs and conflicts with
postgresql-libs (in fact 8.3 for centos5).


FYI. yum.aclub.net is my rpm repo, which supported only by me.



On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Raj kumar raj@gmail.com wrote:
 ok

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of Rainer Traut
 Sent: 13 April 2011 17:57
 To: centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

 Hi.
 There does not seem to be a php53-eaccelerator in standard Centos yum
 channels, from what I can see. That is a mainstay for us. Has anyone
 found that any particular php53-eacclerator from other locations play
 well with it?
 Thanks.

 Hi Geoff,

 I have rebuild the one from remi's repo with some minor tweaks to pull
 in php53 stuff instead of php. It's not yet in production here but it
 works in testing... ymmv. Can give you the spec file if you want.

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Karanbir Singh wrote on 04/13/2011 06:54 AM:
 They are definitely in there, just slow.

Must be vanishingly slow. :-)

Just checked half a dozen tier 1 mirrors and none has src.rpm files in 
.../5.6/os/SRPMS/  There are some in 5.6/updates/SRPMS/.

Phil
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[CentOS] SQL*Plus output as PDF [Linux]

2011-04-13 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi folks

I generate with SQL*Plus a CSV file. How to convert this to PDF? Or
more generally: how to get SQL*Plus output to PDF on Linux?

cheers Sven
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Christopher Chan 
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

 On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 04:00 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 
 With today's CPU-performance and RAM available, software raids are not a 
 problem
 to power.
 
 
 That depends. Software raid is fine for raid1 and raid0. If you want 
 raid5 or raid6, you have to use hardware raid with bbu cache that 
 matches the size of the array notwithstanding the limiting to 10 disks 
 max. consideration.
 
 cpu performance/amount of RAM available is a non-issue and has been for 
 a decade.

The battery backed cache is essential in avoiding the parity write hole as well 
as avoiding the performance penalty of short writes, those less then the stripe 
width  where the remaining chunks need to be read to calculate the new parity, 
as the cache can attempt to cache the write until it gets a full stripe width 
and/or cache future writes until the read-calc-write is completed.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6 and php53 packages

2011-04-13 Thread Alexander Farber
Thank you for the replies and the new release
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Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
We use APC since upgrading to php52 as there weren't any eaccelerator rpms 
available anymore. Haven't seen much difference. I'd be interested to know 
if anyone did a comparison.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] problems in centos-5.6

2011-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Farkas Levente wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:45:07 +0200:

 they are there. may be you should have to check it again:-)

you are right, I didn't get it with yum list.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

2011-04-13 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 13.04.2011 14:28, schrieb Raj kumar:
 ok

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of Rainer Traut
 Sent: 13 April 2011 17:57
 To: centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] php53 and eacclerator

 Hi.
 There does not seem to be a php53-eaccelerator in standard Centos yum
 channels, from what I can see. That is a mainstay for us. Has anyone
 found that any particular php53-eacclerator from other locations play
 well with it?
 Thanks.

 Hi Geoff,

 I have rebuild the one from remi's repo with some minor tweaks to pull
 in php53 stuff instead of php. It's not yet in production here but it
 works in testing... ymmv. Can give you the spec file if you want.

I uploaded the spec here:
http://ubliga.de/php-eaccelerator.spec

It's adjusted for RHEL/Centos 5.6 so that it works with stock php53 
packages - no need to pull in packages from other repos.

Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 06:49:08 PM Drew wrote:
  Where can I get an enterprise-class 2TB drive for $100?  Commodity SATA 
  isn't enterprise-class. 

 I can get Seagate's Constellation ES series SATA drives in 1TB for
 $125. 2TB will run me around $225.

Yeah, those are reasonable near-line drives for archival storage, or when you 
have a very small number of servers accessing the storage, and large amounts of 
cache.

EMC used Barracuda ES SATA drives in their Clariion CX3 boxes for a while; used 
a dual attach 4G FC bridge controller to go from the DAE backplane to the SATA 
port, and emulated the dual attach functionality of FC with it.  I'm not 100% 
sure, but I think the SATA drive itself got EMC-specific firmware.
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:18 PM, Ross Walker wrote:
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Christopher 
 Chanchristopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk  wrote:

 On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 04:00 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

 With today's CPU-performance and RAM available, software raids are not a 
 problem
 to power.


 That depends. Software raid is fine for raid1 and raid0. If you want
 raid5 or raid6, you have to use hardware raid with bbu cache that
 matches the size of the array notwithstanding the limiting to 10 disks
 max. consideration.

 cpu performance/amount of RAM available is a non-issue and has been for
 a decade.

 The battery backed cache is essential in avoiding the parity write hole as 
 well as avoiding the performance penalty of short writes, those less then the 
 stripe width  where the remaining chunks need to be read to calculate the new 
 parity, as the cache can attempt to cache the write until it gets a full 
 stripe width and/or cache future writes until the read-calc-write is 
 completed.


While we are at it, disks being directly connected to the raid card will 
mean there won't be bus contention from nics and what not whereas 
software raid 5/6 would have to deal with that.
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 07:00:26 PM compdoc wrote:
 I've had good luck with green, 5400 rpm Samsung drives. They don't spin down
 automatically and work fine in my raid 5 arrays. The cost is about $80 for
 2TB drives.

And that's a good price point for a commodity drive; not something I would 
count on for long-term use, but still a good price point.

 I also have a few 5900 rpm Seagate ST32000542AS drives, but not currently in
 raids. They don't spin down, so I'm sure they would be fine in a raid.

The biggest issue isn't the spindown.  Google 'WDTLER' and see the other, 
bigger, issue.  In a nutshell, TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery; see 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/TLER ) allows the drive to not 
try to recover soft errors quite as long.  The error recovery time can cause 
the drive to drop out of RAID sets and be marked as faulted.

 Just because they are so tiny on the outside, 2.5 inch drives like the
 Seagate Constellation and WD Raptors are great. Unfortunately, the don't
 come any larger than 1TB, so I use them in special situations.

FWIW, EMC's new VNX storage systems are at the 2.5 inch formfactor, with SSD 
and mechanical platter drives as options, using 6G SAS interfaces.
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Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project. [FLUFF]

2011-04-13 Thread m . roth
Ross Walker wrote:
 On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Christopher Chan
 christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:
 On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:34 AM, Ross Walker wrote:
 On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Dag Wieersd...@wieers.com  wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Keith Keller wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:59:56PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote:

 Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution.

 The developers never suggested using this list to raise funds for any
 alternative distributions.

 Neither am I. Someone is reading into something that isn't there. I do
 retain the rights to start my own RHEL rebuild project if I feel I
 want to
 though :-)

 So when is DEntOS 6.0 going to be released?

 :-)

 I really can't help myself.


 What's that? The latest electronic flossing toothbrush?

 The fresh maker!

With the great new hot silicon flavor!

 mark

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[CentOS] Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI Express ) Card installed on the box

2011-04-13 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

I have Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI
Express ) Card installed on the box. *Its not detected.* Details are as
below :-

[root@asterisk ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 10)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE Controller
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97
Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress
200G Series]
01:05.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress Series
(RS480)
02:00.0 PCI bridge: PLX Technology, Inc. PEX8112 x1 Lane PCI Express-to-PCI
Bridge (rev aa)
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit
Ethernet PCI Express (rev 20)
05:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet
Adapter (rev 11)
[root@asterisk ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
[root@asterisk ~]# asterisk -v
Asterisk 1.6.2.11, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2010 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer marks...@digium.com
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show warranty' for
details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute it
under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
==
===
Asterisk already running on /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl.  Use 'asterisk
-r' to connect.
[root@asterisk ~]#

Please suggest/guide

Thanks

Kaushal
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[CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi all,

I would like to monitor the power consumption of my server. What I am
looking for is:

* a simple monitoring device that would measure the power consumption
of 1 server

* a way to get the consumption reading from that device to my centos
server (via usb / wlan / whatever works)

Any suggestions?

Best,
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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Rafa Griman
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Peter Peltonen
peter.pelto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to monitor the power consumption of my server. What I am
 looking for is:

 * a simple monitoring device that would measure the power consumption
 of 1 server

 * a way to get the consumption reading from that device to my centos
 server (via usb / wlan / whatever works)

 Any suggestions?


Does your server support IPMI (iLO, BMC, ...)?

IPMI's quite easy and useful.

HTH

   Rafa
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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread aly . khimji
Peter,

I have never done it directly of a servers PSU, however I am sure it can be 
done via SNMP or on a lower level via a management interface(iLO, B/RSA, etc..).

However I have done it from a good APC PDU that had SNMP monitoring for all 
kinds of  power aspects.

Hope that helps.

Aly 
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Subject: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption
Sent: Apr 13, 2011 10:16 AM

Hi all,

I would like to monitor the power consumption of my server. What I am
looking for is:

* a simple monitoring device that would measure the power consumption
of 1 server

* a way to get the consumption reading from that device to my centos
server (via usb / wlan / whatever works)

Any suggestions?

Best,
Peter
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chan
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:45 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

While we are at it, disks being directly connected to the raid card will
mean there won't be bus contention from nics and what not whereas
software raid 5/6 would have to deal with that.

Could that really be an issue as well? What kind of traffic levels are we
speaking of now? Approximately? That is to say, in as much this can be
quantified at all.

I've never really seen this problem.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] SQL*Plus output as PDF [Linux]

2011-04-13 Thread Trutwin, Joshua
 I generate with SQL*Plus a CSV file. How to convert this to PDF? Or more
 generally: how to get SQL*Plus output to PDF on Linux?

Marked as Off Topic.

I would do this:

sqlplus
SET MARKUP HTML ON
SPOOL foo.html
SELECT * FROM emp;
SPOOL OFF

Quit sqlplus and use htmldoc to convert foo.html to foo.pdf, or load it in a 
browser and use CutePDF or something to print it to a .pdf if in a hurry.

Josh
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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:26 PM,  aly.khi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have never done it directly of a servers PSU, however I am sure it can be 
 done via SNMP or on a lower level via a management interface(iLO, B/RSA, 
 etc..).

 However I have done it from a good APC PDU that had SNMP monitoring for all 
 kinds of  power aspects.

I am also looking for a way to measure other devices than computers
and I want to collect this information to the centos server. But I
guess it doesn't matter what kind of device I connect to the PDU, it
still can measure its power consumption and report it somehow?

Can you recommend any cheap model? I was aware of these PDU's
existing, but I haven't really considered them as they probably are
quite expensive as they do also many other things (monitor the load of
the server etc)...

Best,
Peter
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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:32 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Chan
 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:45 PM
 To: centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

 While we are at it, disks being directly connected to the raid card will
 mean there won't be bus contention from nics and what not whereas
 software raid 5/6 would have to deal with that.

 Could that really be an issue as well? What kind of traffic levels are we
 speaking of now? Approximately? That is to say, in as much this can be
 quantified at all.

 I've never really seen this problem.

Oh yeah, we are on PCIe and NUMA architectures now. I guess this point 
no longer applies just like hardware raid being crap no longer applies 
because they are not underpowered i960/tiny cache boards anymore.
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Re: [CentOS] SQL*Plus output as PDF [Linux]

2011-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
why do you think this should be asked here?

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] SQL*Plus output as PDF [Linux]

2011-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2011 9:34 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote:
 I generate with SQL*Plus a CSV file. How to convert this to PDF? Or more
 generally: how to get SQL*Plus output to PDF on Linux?

 Marked as Off Topic.

 I would do this:

 sqlplus
 SET MARKUP HTML ON
 SPOOL foo.html
 SELECT * FROM emp;
 SPOOL OFF

 Quit sqlplus and use htmldoc to convert foo.html to foo.pdf, or load it in a 
 browser and use CutePDF or something to print it to a .pdf if in a hurry.

Or if you want serious overkill, look at the Pentaho BI-server and 
report designer tools.  There are both free (community) and supported 
versions and they are in java and very platform agnostic. The report 
designer is a GUI tool where you can query about any data source and lay 
out the results with pixel level control of formatting, and the 
bi-server is a web platform that lets anyone run the reports on demand 
with output as html, pdf, csv, excel, etc., or it can email them in 
scheduled runs.

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Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread compdoc
 The biggest issue isn't the spindown.  Google 'WDTLER' and see the other,
bigger, issue.  In a nutshell, TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery; see
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/TLER ) allows the drive to
not try to recover soft errors quite as long.  The error recovery time can
cause the drive to drop out of RAID sets and be marked as faulted.

Yes, I'm aware of that and it's the reason I have to replace drives
developing reallocated sectors: they get dropped by my 3ware controllers.
There's a penalty for using cheap drives, but there's also a benefit from
the low heat and power savings.

To me, drives and power supplies are a consumable item - something you're
going to have to replace from time to time. I'm used to it since I service
computers for a living. I've seen enterprise drives fail too, although
probably not as often.

By the way, I'm seeing too many ppl with failing SSD's to start relying on
those yet. I own one so far, but it's not used much.


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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread compdoc
 I would like to monitor the power consumption of my server. What I am
looking for is:


How about an external device? I own one of those killawatt devices. You can
program in your local power cost, and it displays how much it actually costs
to run the server. (along with lots of other info)




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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, compdoc comp...@hotrodpc.com wrote:
 How about an external device? I own one of those killawatt devices. You can
 program in your local power cost, and it displays how much it actually costs
 to run the server. (along with lots of other info)

An external device would be fine if I could somehow transfer the
information to my centos server where I want to remotely access /
process this information.

Best,
Peter
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[CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 4/13/11, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote:
 to expand the array :)

 I haven't had problems doing it this way yet.

I finally figured out my mistake creating the raid devices and got a
working RAID 0 on two RAID 1 arrays. But I wasn't able to add another
RAID 1 component to the array with the error

mdadm: add new device failed for /dev/md/mdr1_3 as 2: Invalid argument

Googling up this indicates that it's the expected result trying to add
a new device to a RAID 0 array. Could you or anybody else please share
what's the trick to achieving this?
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[CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Thorpe
Hi all,
I've got a bit of an issue with reinstalling a server. I can
get the installer to boot off a memory stick
made with unetbootin, but I can't seem to find the installation files
on the stick. I have hda, sda and sdb
but none are acceptable install media.

How do I mount the USB stick while in the installer to install off it?
DVD isn't an option because it's been
removed for a tape drive.

It's probably something simple I'm missing.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/12/2011 5:40 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
 There is no compelling reason
 to tamper with a system that works that I have seen so far.

Is there any amount of elapsed time that will convince you otherwise?

I'll refrain from calling this passage of time a delay, since that would 
imply some sort of schedule, but it would nice if the project web site 
set expectations appropriately.

And wouldn't the same 'system that works' comment have applied to 
WhiteBox for some bounded period of time?


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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2011/4/13 Kevin Thorpe kevin.tho...@pibenchmark.com:
 Hi all,
        I've got a bit of an issue with reinstalling a server. I can
 get the installer to boot off a memory stick
 made with unetbootin, but I can't seem to find the installation files
 on the stick. I have hda, sda and sdb
 but none are acceptable install media.

 How do I mount the USB stick while in the installer to install off it?
 DVD isn't an option because it's been
 removed for a tape drive.

how about usb cdrom drive?

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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I'm not aware of an IPMI command that shows current power consumption.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-13 Thread Mailing List

On 4/13/2011 7:35 AM, Mailing List wrote:

Hi,

  I have upgraded my Dell C151 to the latest 5.6. I have always used 
ntp to sync this machine and then the rest of the machines in the 
network would sync from it. Since the update I cannot keep the right 
time on the machine. This is with / without ntp. I have attempted 
various scenario's with no luck. I am now trying the old kernel now as 
I type this out. If anyone else has any links or ideas that I should 
check out It would be greatly appreciated.


 Just a quick note about my setup. I do not use any gui. As 
mentioned I have not had any issues with this machine and it's time 
until I upgrade.


AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
3gb of ram.

TIA.

Brian.


   Just to follow up, I had switched to the old kernel before the 5.6 
upgrade, and at this time my clock is working flawlessly.


kernel v. 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5 Works as it should...
kernel v. 2.6.18-238.5.1.el5 I cannot get my clock accurate.

If there is anything I can do to help solve this IE: information or 
test. please let me know.At this point I will just make the old kernel 
default boot until there is a kernel update where which I will try again.


Brian.



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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Kai Schaetzl wrote:

 I'm not aware of an IPMI command that shows current power consumption.

That entirely depends on the system as far as I'm aware.

Dell R610 will give you this information from ipmitool sdr:

Current 1| 0.28 Amps | ok
Current 2| 0.28 Amps | ok
Voltage 1| 240 Volts | ok
Voltage 2| 238 Volts | ok
System Level | 126 Watts | ok

So that's per-PSU volts and amps, and a combined power figure.

Not quite as nice as what you can get out of the dell specific tools, as it'll
then return you peaks and total power consumption since a point in time.

jh
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Re: [CentOS] Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI Express ) Card installed on the box

2011-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I have Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI 
Express )
Card installed on the box. Its not detected. Details are as below :-

I have seen these type of cards detected as something else. Its also been ages 
since I used
asterisk anyway, I use FreeSWITCH now and as you have a Sangoma you should too:)

You will need Sangoma's drivers, their wiki is as straightforward as it gets. 
Head over there...
Also, they offer free support for their products if the wiki doesn't help you.

Good luck,
jlc
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Re: [CentOS] Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI Express ) Card installed on the box

2011-04-13 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Kaushal Shriyan
kaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI
 Express ) Card installed on the box. Its not detected. Details are as below
 :-

Sounds like a hardware problem. I'm running CentOS 5.5 with three
Sangoma cards and Asterisk. The one is showing up as a A200 card
instead of a A102d card but it is working fine.

[root@voip ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
[root@voip ~]# uname -r
2.6.18-194.32.1.el5
[root@voip ~]# lspci | grep Sangoma
05:04.0 Network controller: Sangoma Technologies Corp. A200/Remora
FXO/FXS Analog AFT card
08:04.0 Network controller: Sangoma Technologies Corp. A104d QUAD T1/E1 AFT card
0a:04.0 Network controller: Sangoma Technologies Corp. A104d QUAD T1/E1 AFT card

Ryan
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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2011 10:22 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
 Hi all,
  I've got a bit of an issue with reinstalling a server. I can
 get the installer to boot off a memory stick
 made with unetbootin, but I can't seem to find the installation files
 on the stick. I have hda, sda and sdb
 but none are acceptable install media.

 How do I mount the USB stick while in the installer to install off it?
 DVD isn't an option because it's been
 removed for a tape drive.

 It's probably something simple I'm missing.

If you have, or can set up an NFS server, you can drop the CD or DVD iso 
images in a directory under it and do an nfs install.  If your USB boot 
setup lets you get a command prompt by hitting a key as it starts you 
may be able to use 'linux askmethod' to get the net install options to 
show.  Otherwise you can use the bootdisk.img.

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[CentOS] CentOS on SSDs...

2011-04-13 Thread John Doe
Hi,

I was just wondering if there are specific steps to take to install CentOS on 
SSDs...
By example, no swap partition?
Format with a flash fs?
Sysctl parameters?

Thx,
JD
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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread aly . khimji
Peter,

The ones I used were from APC and are under the product line of Metered Rack 
PDU, u can find them on the apc website. Here are a few product numbers from 
that line(APC7800,801,802) they all have web, snmp (u can graph with MRTG, or 
whatever), Telnet access, etc.. they start at about 300USD from what I've seen.

HTH

Aly


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Sent: Apr 13, 2011 10:36 AM

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:26 PM,  aly.khi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have never done it directly of a servers PSU, however I am sure it can be 
 done via SNMP or on a lower level via a management interface(iLO, B/RSA, 
 etc..).

 However I have done it from a good APC PDU that had SNMP monitoring for all 
 kinds of  power aspects.

I am also looking for a way to measure other devices than computers
and I want to collect this information to the centos server. But I
guess it doesn't matter what kind of device I connect to the PDU, it
still can measure its power consumption and report it somehow?

Can you recommend any cheap model? I was aware of these PDU's
existing, but I haven't really considered them as they probably are
quite expensive as they do also many other things (monitor the load of
the server etc)...

Best,
Peter
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Re: [CentOS] Monitoring power consumption

2011-04-13 Thread Tom Diehl
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Peter Peltonen wrote:

 Hi,

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, compdoc comp...@hotrodpc.com wrote:
 How about an external device? I own one of those killawatt devices. You can
 program in your local power cost, and it displays how much it actually costs
 to run the server. (along with lots of other info)

 An external device would be fine if I could somehow transfer the
 information to my centos server where I want to remotely access /
 process this information.

Since killawatt was brought up, how about 
http://www.ladyada.net/make/tweetawatt/

Regards,

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin
centos.ad...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/13/11, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote:
 to expand the array :)

 I haven't had problems doing it this way yet.

 I finally figured out my mistake creating the raid devices and got a
 working RAID 0 on two RAID 1 arrays. But I wasn't able to add another
 RAID 1 component to the array with the error

 mdadm: add new device failed for /dev/md/mdr1_3 as 2: Invalid argument

 Googling up this indicates that it's the expected result trying to add
 a new device to a RAID 0 array. Could you or anybody else please share
 what's the trick to achieving this?

You can't expand a mdraid raid0.

I believe you can expand a mdraid raid10,5,6, but not raid0.

If you want to use separate raid1 devices instead of mdraid's raid10
implementation then use LVM, add them to a VG then stripe the LVs
across the different PVs.

The only problem with that is restriping existing LVs across new PVs
is difficult to the point that it is often better to create new LVs
with the proper striping. You can do it though using 'lvresize' to
change the stripe width, but it won't give a linear striping for
existing data and the LV will eventually fill the first PVs causing
all data to only be written to the last PV.

I often find it handy to have a backup raid1 disk on the system
that's big enough to hold the contents of the largest LV, then dump
the production LV to the backup, blow away the production, recreate
with the new stripe size, then restore the data back. This backup
volume could be an iSCSI volume exported from another server that does
have the capacity if there isn't any in the host.

-Ross
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/13/2011 10:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 4/12/2011 5:40 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
 There is no compelling reason
 to tamper with a system that works that I have seen so far.
 
 Is there any amount of elapsed time that will convince you otherwise?
 
 I'll refrain from calling this passage of time a delay, since that would 
 imply some sort of schedule, but it would nice if the project web site 
 set expectations appropriately.
 
 And wouldn't the same 'system that works' comment have applied to 
 WhiteBox for some bounded period of time?
 
 

Our goals have not changed, they are still what they were and what are
posted.  Sometimes it takes longer than we want.

People have a choice.  They can use CentOS or they can use something else.

We do not need to say the same things over and over again.

There is no time limit that we would go past where I would allow
people who I do not know and trust to commit items into the CentOS tree.
 I have to use this in production and it has to be done correctly.  It
does not matter how long it takes if it is done right.

Whitebox is not, nor was it ever, deployed on 29% of all Linux webserver
servers worldwide.  CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web
servers on the Internet that use Linux.  That is more than RHEL and
Ubuntu combined:
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all


CentOS is also deployed on 8 of the top 500 supercomputers in the world
(actually more than 8, because many that use CentOS instead just say
Linux as a generic name):
http://www.top500.org/stats/list/36/os

Specifically Ranger:
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/lone_ranger

CentOS is in use in hundreds of Universities all over the world.

CentOS is a major player on the Amazon Cloud:
http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=BE5C04FE-1A64-6A71-CEBD76121F6F5495

We must be doing something right.



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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Radu Gheorghiu

On 04/13/2011 07:55 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 04/13/2011 10:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

On 4/12/2011 5:40 PM, R P Herrold wrote:

There is no compelling reason
to tamper with a system that works that I have seen so far.

Is there any amount of elapsed time that will convince you otherwise?

I'll refrain from calling this passage of time a delay, since that would
imply some sort of schedule, but it would nice if the project web site
set expectations appropriately.

And wouldn't the same 'system that works' comment have applied to
WhiteBox for some bounded period of time?



Our goals have not changed, they are still what they were and what are
posted.  Sometimes it takes longer than we want.

People have a choice.  They can use CentOS or they can use something else.

We do not need to say the same things over and over again.

There is no time limit that we would go past where I would allow
people who I do not know and trust to commit items into the CentOS tree.
  I have to use this in production and it has to be done correctly.  It
does not matter how long it takes if it is done right.
I don't think that's what we are discussing here about. I think we are 
discussing about making it all open, so that everybody can setup a build 
environment easily and start working on the real issues, not working on 
the build environment itself. You replied to one of my questions, and 
gave me plenty of information. I thank you for that. That's useful. 
However, if I want to start troubleshooting packages right away, and 
help CentOS, I can't do that.
I will first have to loop through emails from you on this list. Find 
hints on the build environment. Loop through bugs.centos find hints 
there as well. Probably it will take me much more time setting things 
up, than actually debugging the trouble package. So, what I think we (we 
= some of us) are asking, is make it easy for anybody to set this up and 
start debugging. The way things are right now, no wonder few people 
help. People who can actually help here, have little time. If you don't 
give them some resources, thy won't bother figuring it out.

Whitebox is not, nor was it ever, deployed on 29% of all Linux webserver
servers worldwide.  CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web
servers on the Internet that use Linux.  That is more than RHEL and
Ubuntu combined:
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all


CentOS is also deployed on 8 of the top 500 supercomputers in the world
(actually more than 8, because many that use CentOS instead just say
Linux as a generic name):
http://www.top500.org/stats/list/36/os

Specifically Ranger:
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/lone_ranger

CentOS is in use in hundreds of Universities all over the world.

CentOS is a major player on the Amazon Cloud:
http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=BE5C04FE-1A64-6A71-CEBD76121F6F5495

We must be doing something right.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on SSDs...

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Angell
On 04/13/2011 10:28 AM, John Doe wrote:
 Hi,

 I was just wondering if there are specific steps to take to install CentOS on
 SSDs...
 By example, no swap partition?
 Format with a flash fs?
 Sysctl parameters?

 Thx,
 JD
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Hi JD,

I've always used the default partition layout when installing on an 
SSD.  I haven't had any problems with CentOS 5.5, haven't tested with 
5.6 yet.

- Jim

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Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-13 Thread Rob Kampen

Mailing List wrote:

On 4/13/2011 7:35 AM, Mailing List wrote:

Hi,

  I have upgraded my Dell C151 to the latest 5.6. I have always used 
ntp to sync this machine and then the rest of the machines in the 
network would sync from it. Since the update I cannot keep the right 
time on the machine. This is with / without ntp. I have attempted 
various scenario's with no luck. I am now trying the old kernel now 
as I type this out. If anyone else has any links or ideas that I 
should check out It would be greatly appreciated.


 Just a quick note about my setup. I do not use any gui. As 
mentioned I have not had any issues with this machine and it's time 
until I upgrade.


AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
3gb of ram.

TIA.

Brian.


   Just to follow up, I had switched to the old kernel before the 5.6 
upgrade, and at this time my clock is working flawlessly.


kernel v. 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5 Works as it should...
kernel v. 2.6.18-238.5.1.el5 I cannot get my clock accurate.


there are two other 238 kernels - do they show the same behavior?
If there is anything I can do to help solve this IE: information or 
test. please let me know.At this point I will just make the old kernel 
default boot until there is a kernel update where which I will try again.


Brian.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on SSDs...

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Nelson
On 4/13/2011 12:28 PM, John Doe wrote:
 Hi,

 I was just wondering if there are specific steps to take to install CentOS on
 SSDs...
 By example, no swap partition?
 Format with a flash fs?
 Sysctl parameters?

 Thx,
 JD

We're running an nginx frontend on SSDs right now - don't bother with things 
like JFFS2, they're intended for SoC distros that have 
raw flash chips memory-mapped to the controller. Most of that intelligence is 
handled by the SSD controller.

CentOS 5 does not have TRIM capability - I'm not sure if CentOS 6 will or not, 
though. The most important part of setting up SSDs on 
a server is to mount all the filesystems with the noatime option - that reduces 
the filesystem writes tremendously. Having a good 
controller is equally important - don't run them on a $25 SATA card.

And, since memory (up to a point) is cheaper than SSDs, fill the box with 
memory sticks. Keep a swap partition, but put in far more 
memory than you think you will need, and that way you won't hit swap unless the 
excrement really hits the air mover.  At least, 
that's how we're doing it.

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Re: [CentOS] Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI Express ) Card installed on the box

2011-04-13 Thread Nicolas Ross
 I have Sangoma A101DE 1 Port E1/T1 With Hardware Echo Cancellation ( PCI
 Express ) Card installed on the box. Its not detected. Details are as 
 below
 :-

 Sounds like a hardware problem. I'm running CentOS 5.5 with three
 Sangoma cards and Asterisk. The one is showing up as a A200 card
 instead of a A102d card but it is working fine.

 (...)

What kind of HW is the machine ? You realy have 10 T1 on one machine ? How 
does that scale ? 

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Re: [CentOS] (no subject)

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Kevin Thorpe wrote on 04/13/2011 11:22 AM:
...
 It's probably something simple I'm missing.

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2011 11:55 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

 People have a choice.  They can use CentOS or they can use something else.

Or they can try to convince the project not to follow the Whitebox 
example of not matching resources to the task.

 There is no time limit that we would go past where I would allow
 people who I do not know and trust to commit items into the CentOS tree.
   I have to use this in production and it has to be done correctly.  It
 does not matter how long it takes if it is done right.

No one has suggested any of these things.  I don't understand why you 
keep repeating that as if it were a contradiction.  Or why you are so 
convinced that CentOS could not be both timely and correct.  In fact, I 
thought one of your other postings implied that it was possible.

 Whitebox is not, nor was it ever, deployed on 29% of all Linux webserver
 servers worldwide.  CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web
 servers on the Internet that use Linux.  That is more than RHEL and
 Ubuntu combined:
 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all

OK, if you are going to use that as an example, please tell me how many 
of those people made that choice knowing that updates were going to be 
months behind upstream.  There's certainly nothing on the project web 
site to imply that.

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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread aurfalien
On Apr 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Keith Keller wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23:19AM +1000, Bob Hepple wrote:

 We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on
 (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at  
 was
 zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to previous use of and  
 liking
 of nagios.

 So, if I already have a working nagios that I like, are there any
 advantages to Opsview community?  I only have about 100 services I
 monitor, and I doubt it'd grow a huge amount in the near future.

Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for  
trending.

Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin.

- aurf
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/13/2011 12:28 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 4/13/2011 11:55 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

 People have a choice.  They can use CentOS or they can use something else.
 
 Or they can try to convince the project not to follow the Whitebox 
 example of not matching resources to the task.
 
 There is no time limit that we would go past where I would allow
 people who I do not know and trust to commit items into the CentOS tree.
   I have to use this in production and it has to be done correctly.  It
 does not matter how long it takes if it is done right.
 
 No one has suggested any of these things.  I don't understand why you 
 keep repeating that as if it were a contradiction.  Or why you are so 
 convinced that CentOS could not be both timely and correct.  In fact, I 
 thought one of your other postings implied that it was possible.
 
 Whitebox is not, nor was it ever, deployed on 29% of all Linux webserver
 servers worldwide.  CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web
 servers on the Internet that use Linux.  That is more than RHEL and
 Ubuntu combined:
 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all
 
 OK, if you are going to use that as an example, please tell me how many 
 of those people made that choice knowing that updates were going to be 
 months behind upstream.  There's certainly nothing on the project web 
 site to imply that.
 

How about I just use YOU as an example.

You CERTAINLY know how long the updates take.

How many INSTALLS of CentOS do you still choose to have?



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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Johnny Hughes wrote on 04/13/2011 12:55 PM:
 CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web
 servers on the Internet that use Linux.

That 28.9% is down from the high of 33.5% in Oct. 2010 or a 13.8% decrease.
http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_details/os-linux

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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for  
trending.

Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin.

There are plenty of graphing/trending addons for Nagios, I moved to
Icinga and use PNP4Nagios with it.
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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2011 12:39 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:

 We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on
 (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at
 was
 zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to previous use of and
 liking
 of nagios.

 So, if I already have a working nagios that I like, are there any
 advantages to Opsview community?  I only have about 100 services I
 monitor, and I doubt it'd grow a huge amount in the near future.

 Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for
 trending.

 Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin.

If you find anything that is really good at this, please post the info. 
  I'm trying to do it with OpenNMS, but the problem is that the trends I 
want to track are always across load balanced/fail over sets of things 
and the aggregation needs to be done at each sample interval to get it 
right (i.e. if you fail over between two routers you can't add the peak 
usage of both over a longer interval and call it a trend). I've ended up 
exporting most of the data out to other tools for trend analysis.

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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread aurfalien
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for
 trending.

 Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin.

 There are plenty of graphing/trending addons for Nagios, I moved to
 Icinga and use PNP4Nagios with it.

Thats another interesting one, will check it out.
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Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-13 Thread Baird, Josh
I'd give ZenOSS a try if I were you.

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Behalf Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

On 4/13/2011 12:39 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:

 We looked at a number of monitoring systems before closing on
 (community version) Opsview. The main other contender we looked at
 was
 zenoss - I have to admit I was biased due to previous use of and
 liking
 of nagios.

 So, if I already have a working nagios that I like, are there any
 advantages to Opsview community?  I only have about 100 services I
 monitor, and I doubt it'd grow a huge amount in the near future.

 Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for
 trending.

 Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin.

If you find anything that is really good at this, please post the info. 
  I'm trying to do it with OpenNMS, but the problem is that the trends I

want to track are always across load balanced/fail over sets of things 
and the aggregation needs to be done at each sample interval to get it 
right (i.e. if you fail over between two routers you can't add the peak 
usage of both over a longer interval and call it a trend). I've ended up

exporting most of the data out to other tools for trend analysis.

-- 
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lesmikes...@gmail.com
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