Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:49 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations While we are at it, disks being directly connected to

Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-14 Thread allan
Mailing List wrote: On 4/13/2011 3:35 PM, Cal Webster wrote: I'm running the same kernel and ntp versions and I'm having no problems at all on ntp servers or clients. If my previous suggestions didn't help maybe you could share contents of the following files and output of some commands

Re: [CentOS] SNMP monitoring options

2011-04-14 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Joseph L. Casale wrote: Well, Nagios is more for outage/alerts were I was looking more for trending. Thats why I was originally using Cacti w/Nagios plugin. There are plenty of graphing/trending addons for Nagios, I moved to Icinga and use PNP4Nagios with it. I also

Re: [CentOS] CentOS on SSDs...

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Simpson
On 13 April 2011 18:08, Jim Nelson j...@broadtime.com wrote: On 4/13/2011 12:28 PM, John Doe wrote: Hi, I was just wondering if there are specific steps to take to install CentOS on SSDs... By example, no swap partition? Format with a flash fs? Sysctl parameters? Thx, JD We're running

Re: [CentOS] bizarre system slowness

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Simpson
On 13 April 2011 21:06, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.org wrote: Running v5 64bit on a Dell 1950. /var/log/messages was full of ntpd[7313]: frequency error -1707 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM messages. There was a lot of messages about the system limit for the maximum number of semaphore

Re: [CentOS] bizarre system slowness

2011-04-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
I was wondering if you have normal internet access on that machine. I found out that somehow systems I set up just freeze and are horribly slow when there is no internet access. Terminnal would take few minutes to open, and if I try several terminals all would open at once once system is

Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/13/2011 10:31 AM, Mailing List wrote: On 4/13/2011 7:35 AM, Mailing List wrote: Hi, I have upgraded my Dell C151 to the latest 5.6. I have always used ntp to sync this machine and then the rest of the machines in the network would sync from it. Since the update I cannot keep the

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread John Jasen
On 04/13/2011 09:04 PM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasen jja...@realityfailure.org wrote: snipped my stuff Every now and then I hear these XFS horror stories. They seem too impossible to believe. Nothing breaks for absolutely no reason and failure to know where

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 04:54:01 AM Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: ... As matter of interest, what hardware do you use? i.e. what CPU's, size of RAM and RAID cards do you use on this size system? Everyone always recommends to use

Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-14 Thread Mailing List
On 4/14/2011 6:47 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Is it really true that the time is working perfectly with one of the other kernels (the older ones)? Johnny, Yes, As long as I run the older 5.5 kernel my time is perfect. All clients can get from this machine with no issues. As soon as

Re: [CentOS] CentOs 5.6 and Time Sync

2011-04-14 Thread Simon Matter
On 4/14/2011 6:47 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Is it really true that the time is working perfectly with one of the other kernels (the older ones)? Johnny, Yes, As long as I run the older 5.5 kernel my time is perfect. All clients can get from this machine with no issues. As

Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
[Donning my Nomex/Kevlar/non-friable asbestos suit here] On Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:25:49 AM Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 4/14/11, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote: Johnny Hughes wrote on 04/13/2011 12:55 PM: CentOS is ... right now ... deployed on 29% of web

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 09:04 AM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasenjja...@realityfailure.org wrote: On 04/12/2011 08:19 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: On Tue, Apr

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 07:26 AM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 08:19 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Alain Péan alain.p...@lpp.polytechnique.fr

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:54 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:49 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:34 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations Oh yeah, we are on PCIe and NUMA architectures now. I

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 01:51 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 04/13/11 9:51 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: I'm was stuck trying to decide whether to go for the cheaper RAID 5 setup and possibly getting killed by the IOPS penalty and the risk associated with rebuild time, or figure out a way to

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Simon Matter
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 09:04 AM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasenjja...@realityfailure.org wrote: On 04/12/2011 08:19 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: On Tue, Apr

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 yum update with reference to 5.6

2011-04-14 Thread Bernard Fay
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, William Hooper whooper...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Bernard Fay bernard@enodegroup.com wrote: Hello group, I have a CentOS 5.5 server freshly installed. When I do a yum updated package_name, I have referenced to 5.6. Why?

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Ross Walker
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:54 AM, John Jasen jja...@realityfailure.org wrote: On 04/13/2011 09:04 PM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasen jja...@realityfailure.org wrote: snipped my stuff Every now and then I hear these XFS horror stories. They seem too impossible to

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:10:33 PM Lars Hecking wrote: OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array either. Gparted it rather practical for regular plain vanilla partitions, but for more advanced stuff and filesystems, fdisk is probably better. For filersystems 2TB, you're

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 4/14/11, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: since this is the centos list, I really didn't want to suggest this, but if I was building a 20 or 40TB or whatever storage server, I do believe I'd be strongly consider using Solaris, or one of its variants like OpenIndiana, with ZFS. ZFS

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:07:55PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 4/14/11, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: since this is the centos list, I really didn't want to suggest this, but if I was building a 20 or 40TB or whatever storage server, I do believe I'd be strongly consider

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Brooks
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:10:33 PM Lars Hecking wrote: OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array either. Gparted it rather practical for regular plain vanilla partitions, but for more advanced stuff and filesystems, fdisk is probably

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Peter Kjellström Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:31 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:10:33 PM Lars Hecking

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 08:55 PM, Simon Matter wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 09:04 AM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasenjja...@realityfailure.org wrote: On 04/12/2011 08:19 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote:

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 02:56:54 PM rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: ... Steve, I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And with good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. That's not the issue. The issue is rebuild-time. The longer it takes,

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:11 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:07:55PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 4/14/11, John R Piercepie...@hogranch.com wrote: since this is the centos list, I really didn't want to suggest this, but if I was building a 20 or 40TB or

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:29:29 AM Matthew Feinberg wrote: Thank you everyone for the advice and great information. From what I am gathering XFS is the way to go. A couple more questions. What partitioning utility is suggested? parted and fdisk do not seem to be doing the job. My

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:37:15 AM Christopher Chan wrote: I used XFS extensively when I was running mail server farms for the mail queue filesystem and I only remember one or two incidents when the filesystem was marked read-only for no reason (seemingly - never had the time to find

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:07 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 4/14/11, John R Piercepie...@hogranch.com wrote: since this is the centos list, I really didn't want to suggest this, but if I was building a 20 or 40TB or whatever storage server, I do believe I'd be strongly consider using

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:54 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:37:15 AM Christopher Chan wrote: I used XFS extensively when I was running mail server farms for the mail queue filesystem and I only remember one or two incidents when the filesystem was marked read-only

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:47 PM, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:29:29 AM Matthew Feinberg wrote: Thank you everyone for the advice and great information. From what I am gathering XFS is the way to go. A couple more questions. What partitioning utility is

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44:00PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:11 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:07:55PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 4/14/11, John R Piercepie...@hogranch.com wrote: since this is the centos list, I really

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/14/2011 9:54 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:37:15 AM Christopher Chan wrote: I used XFS extensively when I was running mail server farms for the mail queue filesystem and I only remember one or two incidents when the filesystem was marked read-only for no reason

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Ross Walker
2011/4/14 Peter Kjellström c...@nsc.liu.se: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 02:56:54 PM rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: ... Steve, I'm managing machines with 30TB of storage for more then two years. And with good reporting and reaction we have never had to run fsck. That's not the issue. The

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 04/14/2011 08:04 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: Then try both for your use case and your hardware. We have wide raid6 setups that does well over 500 MB/s write (that is: not all raid6 writes suck...). /me replaces all of Peter's cache with 64MB modules. Let's try again. If you are trying

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/14/2011 7:32 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: HAHAHAAAAHA The XFS codebase is the biggest pile of mess in the Linux kernel and you expect it to be not run into mysterious problems? Remember, XFS was PORTED over to Linux. It is not a 'native' thing to

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:13:19 PM Steve Brooks wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:10:33 PM Lars Hecking wrote: OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array either. Gparted it rather practical for regular plain vanilla partitions, but

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:15:10 PM Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Peter Kjellström Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:31 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Ross Walker
2011/4/14 Peter Kjellström c...@nsc.liu.se: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:13:19 PM Steve Brooks wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:10:33 PM Lars Hecking wrote: OTOH, gparted doesn't see my software raid array either. Gparted it rather

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 04:54:34 PM Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:37:15 AM Christopher Chan wrote: I used XFS extensively when I was running mail server farms for the mail queue filesystem and I only remember one or two incidents when the filesystem was marked

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:20:23 AM Les Mikesell wrote: Same here, CentOS5 and ext3. Rare and random across identical hardware. So far I've blamed the hardware. I don't have that luxury. This is one VM on a VMware ESX 3.5U5 host, and the storage is EMC Clariion fibre-channel, with the

[CentOS] Ext3 remount ro (was:Re: 40TB File System Recommendations)

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:41:07 AM Peter Kjellström wrote: The default behaviour for ext3 on CentOS-5 is to remount read-only, as a safety measure, when something goes wrong beneath it (see mount option errors in man mount). The root cause can be any of a long list of hardware or

[CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread admin lewis
Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? thx so much!! lewis. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 4/14/2011 12:06 PM, admin lewis wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? APC's website has a UPS Selector feature that will recommend a UPS based on your equipment.

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:37:15 AM Christopher Chan wrote: I used XFS extensively when I was running mail server farms for the mail queue filesystem and I only remember one or two incidents when the filesystem was marked read-only for no reason (seemingly - never had the

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM, admin lewis adminle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? It depends on how long you want it to run. Your choice is a

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM, admin lewis adminle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? UPS and Power Supplies

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread admin lewis
2011/4/14 Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com: On 4/14/2011 12:06 PM, admin lewis wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? APC's website has a UPS Selector feature

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/14/2011 11:36 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote: I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? It depends on how long you want it to run. Your choice is a small UPS to give your server

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread m . roth
Kevin Thorpe wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM, admin lewis adminle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? It depends on how long you want it to

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM, admin lewis adminle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Kevin Thorpe
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote: We lose power fairly frequently here, and need the UPSs to keep things going long enough to get generator backup started.  I have found that the APC UPSs really don't like cheap generators.  We had a week long power

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Devin Reade
Partially echoing what was already said: - Stick to APC - Avoid the low end workstation models like the plain BackUPS. As a minimum get a BackUPS-Pro. SmartUPS are better. - Use the sizing app on the APC web site - Careful of your mains power. Besides what was mentioned for generators,

[CentOS] speed-tuning samba?

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
What's the current state of the art with this black magic? It looks like there are a vast number of tuning options and the ones that typically show up in advice are: socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY read raw = yes write raw = yes oplocks = yes max xmit = 65535 dead time = 15 getwd

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread aurfalien
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:54 AM, John Jasen jja...@realityfailure.org wrote: On 04/13/2011 09:04 PM, Ross Walker wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, John Jasen jja...@realityfailure.org wrote: snipped my stuff Every now and then I hear

Re: [CentOS] Expanding RAID 10 array, WAS: 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/14/11 7:44 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: Now, if OpenIndiana resists using illumos... openindiana is under the Illumos project umbrella. They aren't going to use anything else. someone suggested Solaris Express, that has no patches or updates unless you subscribe to annual support at

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/14/11 9:06 AM, admin lewis wrote: Hi I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? a simple smart ups 1000 could be enough ? apc smartups or eaton powerware woudl be my choices.1000VA should be fine. avoid

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/14/11 9:49 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: UPS and Power Supplies are not all the same. If the UPS has a stepped voltage output (not smooth sine wave like the local public grid has) in large enough steps to mess up the power supply, you wind up with no UPS in effect. CLEARLY if there are

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/14/11 10:54 AM, Devin Reade wrote: Partially echoing what was already said: - Stick to APC I'd take Eaton Powerware (fka Best Power) over APC any day. http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5125.aspx or similar for this application. I'd take one of those up

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Brent L. Bates
apcupsd doesn't work with new APC UPS's. APC has changed to some proprietary protocol, microlink?, for talking to their UPS's, so apcupsd doesn't work any more or at least not fully. There has been some discussion about this issue on the apcupsd users email list.

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/14/2011 1:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 04/14/11 10:54 AM, Devin Reade wrote: Partially echoing what was already said: - Stick to APC I'd take Eaton Powerware (fka Best Power) over APC any day. http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5125.aspx or similar for

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/14/2011 1:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 04/14/11 10:54 AM, Devin Reade wrote: Partially echoing what was already said: - Stick to APC I'd take Eaton Powerware (fka Best Power) over APC any day.

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:51:02 PM John R Pierce wrote: switched PC/Server PSU's *so* don't give a bleep about sinusoidal power, its not funny. first thing they do is full wave rectify the power to DC, then they run that DC through a high frequency (several 100Khz usually) oscillator

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:55:51 PM John R Pierce wrote: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5125.aspx or similar for this application. I'd take one of those up versus the same size APC SmartUps any day. We have a 5KVA Best Ferrups here that has never

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:17:41 PM aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: However if you like XFS, I'll assume you liek IRIX so check the 5dwm project which is the IRIX desktop for Linux. Cool. Now if they ported the Audio DAT ripping program for IRIX to Linux, I'd be able to get rid of my O2.

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread aurfalien
On Apr 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:17:41 PM aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: However if you like XFS, I'll assume you liek IRIX so check the 5dwm project which is the IRIX desktop for Linux. Cool. Now if they ported the Audio DAT ripping program for

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/14/2011 2:13 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Keep in mind that pretty much all of them that don't have multiple battery/control modules and auto-switching (like the big APC Symmetra's) will have their own failure modes 3 or 4 years out if you just plug them in and forget them. That is,

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread m . roth
aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 02:17:41 PM aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: However if you like XFS, I'll assume you liek IRIX so check the 5dwm project which is the IRIX desktop for Linux. Cool. Now if they ported the Audio

Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice

2011-04-14 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/14/2011 2:13 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Keep in mind that pretty much all of them that don't have multiple battery/control modules and auto-switching (like the big APC Symmetra's) will have their own failure modes 3 or 4 years out if you just plug them in and

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 07:18:23PM -0400, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 11:30 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/12/2011 9:36 AM, John Jasen wrote: snipped: two recommendations for XFS I would chime in with a dis-commendation for XFS. At my previous employer, two cases involving XFS

Re: [CentOS] 40TB File System Recommendations

2011-04-14 Thread John Jasen
One was 32 bit, the other 64 bit. Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2011 07:26 AM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 08:19 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 PM, John Jasen wrote: On 04/12/2011 10:21 AM, Boris Epstein

Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6

2011-04-14 Thread Timothy Lee
Dear all, On 04/14/2011 02:11 PM, David Hrbáč wrote: Dne 14.4.2011 2:31, Manuel Wolfshant napsal(a): You cannot do that because the translations section must include [*] the language names expressed in the language of the translation. For instance in the Romanian release notes I would use

Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6

2011-04-14 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 04/14/2011 12:24 PM, Timothy Lee wrote: Dear all, Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/BrazilianPortuguese:Português do Brasil] -

Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6

2011-04-14 Thread Timothy Lee
Dear all, On 04/14/2011 05:28 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 04/14/2011 12:24 PM, Timothy Lee wrote: Dear all, Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: *

Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6

2011-04-14 Thread David Hrbáč
Dne 14.4.2011 11:28, Manuel Wolfshant napsal(a): then let's do it. any objections on the approach suggested by David ? Agree with Tim, English must be also included. The list also must be resorted by language. DH ___ CentOS-docs mailing list

Re: [CentOS-docs] FOG on CentOS Wiki contribution suggestion?

2011-04-14 Thread Alex Goffe
Any further thoughts, If not can the FOG page now be created so I (or someone) can move the info? Many Thanks! Alex On 12/04/11 16:53, Alex Goffe wrote: Fantastic, Line has been added! On 12/04/11 16:50, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 12 April 2011 16:02, Alex Goffea.s.go...@hfac.keele.ac.uk

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0257 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 subversion Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0257 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0257.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: fd30177d2399314531bd8ddb8350c35c

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0257 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 subversion Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0257 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0257.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: ab7ac74a7a292daebb31fd1a7a5488bb

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0429 Important CentOS 5 i386 kernel Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0429 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0429.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 7d4813e5c5f378d313b2ba73014f1597

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0429 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 kernel Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0429 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0429.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 115718207415fce5549cfeca80bd2eec

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0422 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 postfix Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0422 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0422.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 375cb25cb1c59c20bd498f4ae1a024e7

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0422 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 postfix Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0422 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0422.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 7d2168502e56e8ab5d2e0a9b440f991d

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0436 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 avahi Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0436 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0436.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 8071aa7bb991abbfc8b2f3c27d89cf14

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0436 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 avahi Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0436 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0436.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: eaa18c4146ee6a0d6bb4bf9760a9b2b5

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0428 Important CentOS 5 i386 dhcp Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0428 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0428.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 81f281b056e4564c801fa6b9894c9f90

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0428 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 dhcp Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0428 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0428.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 11df94d1a1fc786525e73cc67b7d7334

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0412 Important CentOS 5 i386 glibc Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0412 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0412.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 923a30554cca0e7b8350e4e0f9b8dd2d

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0412 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 glibc Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0412 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0412.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: c47e21eb3e8f1d664645b1ba5581e3ba

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0430 CentOS 5 x86_64 mkinitrd Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0430 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0430.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 417f12dc9dc222e52ca47cfb89c0f3d0

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0430 CentOS 5 i386 mkinitrd Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0430 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0430.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: f0ede88b5284bbfafff271ebd0a55dce

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0444 CentOS 5 i386 ypserv Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0444 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0444.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 407d7b987f8820fc26f3bca7fae3bf8d

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0444 CentOS 5 x86_64 ypserv Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0444 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0444.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 3be76fe55492bf7fc70a0fc6e28632bc

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0427 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 spice-xpi Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0427 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0427.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: b6b7145e35e5c19f8c0c97b40a193fe2

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0427 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 spice-xpi Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2011:0427 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0427.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 86e3dc07ab5647f7540d62eae6bb34f4

[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2011:0420 CentOS 5 x86_64 openssh Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2011:0420 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2011-0420.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 013d6d99f003f853b9129f78595ea635

[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2011:0420 CentOS 5 i386 openssh Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2011:0420 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2011-0420.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: a04e554dc9658f8f620bac8a3e9df993

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0410 CentOS 5 i386 opensm Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0410 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0410.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 82cb40cc9a53be9390faa8a957810f5c

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0410 CentOS 5 x86_64 opensm Update

2011-04-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0410 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0410.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: f3079787e1cf52c571865139a28af0cf

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