Re: [CentOS-docs] SELinux

2008-08-11 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
Ned Slider wrote: Hi list, I've knocked up a contribution on SELinux here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux I've tried to pitch it as an introduction for those not already familiar with SELinux but also hopefully a useful reference. I'm relatively new to SELinux and have covered

Re: [CentOS-docs] SELinux

2008-08-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ned Slider wrote: Hi list, I've knocked up a contribution on SELinux here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux I've tried to pitch it as an introduction for those not already familiar with SELinux but also hopefully a useful reference. Great article. What maybe should be added to

Re: [CentOS-virt] Need Kernel for NetBSD to install on Xen

2008-08-11 Thread Pierre-Philipp Braun
Augustin, install the x86_64 version of CentOS 5.2. You will be able to boot the NetBSD/amd64-current domU install kernel. -Pierre-Philipp Quoting white list (11/08/2008 19:16), Hello You All, I'm trying to install NetBSD on Xen. Anyone, I need a kernel to install NetBSD or FreeBSD or both

Re: [CentOS-virt] Need Kernel for NetBSD to install on Xen

2008-08-11 Thread white list
what do I need to do to install NetBSD I don't care what release I just want to install NetBSD on CentOS 5.2 x86_64 version Xen 3.2. It seems to make no difference if I use netbsd-INSTALL_XEN3_DOMU.gz (i386) or x86_64 architecture. Please Help. Thanks, Augustin On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:29

Re: [CentOS] Question about Open SSH Public Keys

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk H. Schulz
You could start the ssh server on that machine with -vvv to get a detailled, verbose logging. That does not always lead to entries making clear what happens, but to entries you can use for googling (or asking here). I would also have a look at DNS - compare forward and reverse lookups (are

[CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Theo Band
Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients run ypbind

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Clint Dilks
Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Clint Dilks
Clint Dilks wrote: Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has

Re: [CentOS] Writable Centos LiveCD on Embeded Linux?

2008-08-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
Oliver Schulze L. wrote: Hi Stephen, thanks for answering. I'm trying to see if I can get a router using an embeded platform, alix in this case. Since the Alix platform is getting more powerfull and the 1GB compatch flash is also getting cheaper, I was think in createing a full Centos distro

Re: [CentOS] centos 5.2 / sun java ?

2008-08-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
John R Pierce wrote: Heiko Adams wrote: But maybe CentOS doesn't need to redistribute those RPMS for two reasons: 1) CentOS testing already has IcedTea 6 RPMS 2) Somewhere I've read that Red Hat plans to integrate IcedTea RPMS into 5.3 agreed I dunno any enterprise Java developers who

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Theo Band wrote: ... The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. If you run authconfig-gtk on the client and look at the Options tab, is Cache user information selected? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:05:58AM +0200, Theo Band wrote: I actually have problems that passwords don't get updated. I noticed that by changing the home directory in /etc/passwd. When I change that from /home/user to /nobackup/home/user it does work with ypcat passwd (I see the correct

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Theo Band wrote: The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread James Pearson
Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients

Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps

2008-08-11 Thread Theo Band
Mogens Kjaer wrote: Theo Band wrote: ... The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. If you run authconfig-gtk on the client and look at the Options tab, is Cache user information selected? Mogens I have not enabled this option.

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user,

Re: [CentOS] vncserver on IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Not working Rob Lockhart wrote: In /etc/sysconfig/vncservers I have something like this: VNCSERVERS=1:myusername VNCSERVERARGS[1]=-geometry 1400x1050 -depth 16 -localhost (so I can only use localhost, which means I only allow connections over ssh or from the local machine). Yours might

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vaclav Mocek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I

RE: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools'

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware gvim sounds interesting. Thanks! I tried to install it, but it's not in

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well Eclipse is more of an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) which I think having one that works across multiple languages is essential. Emacs was the original IDE, but the GUI gives a lot more to the

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++Lanny If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head around constructors, destructors, inheritance, templates (I never did enough

[CentOS] Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Where might I find an rpm for Centos? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] ext2online / ext2resize

2008-08-11 Thread Al Sparks
--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext2online / ext2resize To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 5:42 PM On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 18:32 -0700, Al Sparks

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++Lanny If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user,

Re: [CentOS] Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++

[CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Scott Silva
on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vaclav Mocek little.owl-PkL3B3/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm

[CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Sean Carolan
Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. ___

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Stephen Harris
Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. Not directly, but you can add up all the

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Dear Sean, No, there isn't. You'd have to parse the df output to get that value. I suggest using the -P switch to df, so you don't have to deal with multi-line output per filesystem. The following will return kilobytes of disk space used (third column in the df -kP output): df -kP |grep

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Sean Carolan
df -kl | awk '/^\/dev\// { avail += $3/1024 } END { printf(%d Mb used\n,avail)} ' Awesome, this is going into my bag of goodies. Thanks! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:07:09PM -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: value. I suggest using the -P switch to df, so you don't have to deal with multi-line output per filesystem. Ugh, hasn't RedHat fixed that? Sun have (for a long time) automatically done this if stdout is not a terminal.

[CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread Scott Silva
on 8-11-2008 10:57 AM Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams spake the following: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. Most of centos.karan.org for EL5 is in the testing repo AFAIK. -- MailScanner is

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk H. Schulz
As long as you only want the absolute amount of data (not the percentage of total file space that is used) you could use du -sh / on that server. --On 11. August 2008 14:00:09 -0500 Sean Carolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on

Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Scott Silva wrote: on 8-11-2008 10:57 AM Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams spake the following: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. Most of centos.karan.org for EL5 is in the testing repo AFAIK.

Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread John R Pierce
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And nowhere in centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/i386/RPMS or centos.karan.org/el5/misc/testing/i386/RPMS am I finding linphone google found me... http://centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/x86_64/RPMS/linphone-0.12.2-7.x86_64.rpm but not the i386 version. /me

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Florin Andrei
mcedit yum install mc and you can start using it. Can't get more intuitive than that. I use it for PHP and C programming, and shell scripting. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Kuang-Chun Cheng
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to

Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone

2008-08-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
John R Pierce wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And nowhere in centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/i386/RPMS or centos.karan.org/el5/misc/testing/i386/RPMS am I finding linphone google found me... http://centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/x86_64/RPMS/linphone-0.12.2-7.x86_64.rpm but

Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?

2008-08-11 Thread Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd
Sean Carolan wrote: Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. You've had a few replies

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: snip I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. Then you shouldn't go wrong, because

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mcedit yum install mc and you can start using it. Can't get more intuitive than that. I use it for PHP and C programming, and shell scripting. I think a friend used Midnight Commander, years ago. On Wikipedia, their

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Kuang-Chun Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to Ditto -

[CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system

2008-08-11 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is really appreciated. Thanks. - --

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Utschig
On 08/10/08 15:04, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if

[CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 18:03 -0700, Tim Utschig wrote: On 08/10/08 15:04, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool.

Re: [CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system

2008-08-11 Thread nate
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread MHR
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or another IDE too, so there's another learning curve. I've been using vi (and vim and gvim) for more than twenty years and I've never needed an IDE.

Re: [CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system

2008-08-11 Thread Les Mikesell
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is really

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as

Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as