Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/11/2017 07:09 PM, Keith Keller wrote: On 2017-04-11, Gordon Messmer wrote: You also don't have the flexibility to replace the kernel. Or glibc. But you do, don't you? It'll take you months to replace them, or years to rewrite, but you*can* do it. The same

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, April 11, 2017 9:09 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2017-04-11, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> You also don't have the flexibility to replace the kernel. Or glibc. > > But you do, don't you? It'll take you months to replace them, or years > to rewrite, but you *can*

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2017-04-11, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > You also don't have the flexibility to replace the kernel. Or glibc. But you do, don't you? It'll take you months to replace them, or years to rewrite, but you *can* do it. That is the freedom that open source software

Re: [CentOS-virt] Centos 6.9 AWS Images and c4-8xlarge

2017-04-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/04/17 14:56, John Peacock wrote: > > We want to be able to usethe 10G networking that c4.8xlarge instances > provide and we want to base all of our images directly on the official > Centos6 release AMI. > Can you try ami-500d8546 i us-east-1 and let me know if that works for the

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 05:11:25PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Tue, April 11, 2017 4:41 pm, Warren Young wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > >> > >> (though they're talking of trying OpenRC) > > > > Not just talking. TrueOS, neé PC-BSD,

Re: [CentOS] kmod-jfs on Centos 6

2017-04-11 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:58 PM, H wrote: > On 3/13/2017 1:09 PM, Nux! wrote: >> >> yum -y install >> http://mirrors.coreix.net/elrepo/elrepo/el6/x86_64/RPMS/kmod-jfs-0.0-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.rpm >> >> (that's for 64bit, adjust the url accordingly for 32bit) >> >> it won't

[CentOS] Ignoring /run/user/X

2017-04-11 Thread Cameron Smith
We are running into an issue relating to snmpd and the temporary partitions created in /run/user/ so any insight by someone with magical net-snmp skills would be much appreciated. Our monitoring app walks all our servers. We modify /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf on all our servers to just have one line:

[CentOS] connection state tracking with DNS [was Primary DNS...]

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
Hi, I would like to see this addressed. I found more information on the issue at https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01183/0/Linux-connection-tracking-and-DNS.html Is there a firewalld solution to this issue? On 04/11/2017 11:05 AM, Chris Adams wrote: One additional DNS server note: you should

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 11.04.2017 um 19:17 schrieb Nicolas Kovacs : > > Le 11/04/2017 à 19:09, John R Pierce a écrit : >> do you mean 'authoritative DNS server' ? > > Yes. Totally off-topic, but it hits my mind right now. We are receiving a big amount of version queries on our public dns infra

Re: [CentOS] kmod-jfs on Centos 6

2017-04-11 Thread H
Thank you, installed it and it worked fine. Now I am looking for the same for CentOS 7... It did not look like you have that in your repository? On 3/13/2017 1:09 PM, Nux! wrote: yum -y install http://mirrors.coreix.net/elrepo/elrepo/el6/x86_64/RPMS/kmod-jfs-0.0-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.rpm

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread isdtor
> Also, in case you're ever interested, I've written a script that > generates suitable IPv4-based filenames for pre-default usage: > >https://github.com/heinlein/pxehex gethostip ... I simply rebuilt the relevant C5 rpms for C6, system-config-netboot and system-config-netboot-cmd, IIRC.

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, April 11, 2017 4:41 pm, Warren Young wrote: > On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: >> >> (though they're talking of trying OpenRC) > > Not just talking. TrueOS, neé PC-BSD, now runs on OpenRC. > > So let me tell you about how my recent TrueOS server

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > (though they're talking of trying OpenRC) Not just talking. TrueOS, neé PC-BSD, now runs on OpenRC. So let me tell you about how my recent TrueOS server upgrade broke virtually all of my services on the TrueOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > .../pxelinux.cfg/b8945908-d6a6-41a9-611d-74a6ab80b83d > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/01-88-99-aa-bb-cc-dd > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/C0A8025B > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/C0A8025 > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/C0A802 > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/C0A80 > > > .../pxelinux.cfg/C0A8 > > >

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 11/04/17 17:02, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > On 04/11/2017 07:50 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: >>> I'd much rather have a bash script to look at-- and manually step >>> through. >> >> Is that a joke? Bash is an almighty impenetrable nightmare. I've been >> doing >> *nix for nearly 10 years and *still*

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/11/2017 2:01 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: Whatever openether.org is, it sounds buggy. there's no such domain.there's a softether.org, which is a VPN package, and some kinda github.com/openether which appears to be Ethereum blockchain based distributed computing related. -- john r

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread J Martin Rushton
Similar. When user jobs can run for a couple of months you can't just do a reboot every few days. Yum makes doing updates easy, but that can bring another problem: I've seen people do "yum update" multiple times and not realise that they need to reboot. On 11/04/17 19:23, Pete Biggs wrote: >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 04/11/2017 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Pete Biggs wrote: We've been using pxeboot to pull up a menu, to build or rebuild machines for years. We have this new server, and it fails. Times out. What's happening is that it tries in this order

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread m . roth
Pete Biggs wrote: > >>We've been using pxeboot to pull up a menu, to build or rebuild >> machines for years. We have this new server, and it fails. Times out. >> What's happening is that it tries in this order >> .../pxelinux.cfg/b8945908-d6a6-41a9-611d-74a6ab80b83d >>

Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Translation German

2017-04-11 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 11 April 2017 at 19:32, Andreas Lange wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to contribute by translating parts of the Wiki from English to > German. > > User: AndreasLange > > Translation from English to German > > Would please grant me access rights to do so? > > Best

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Biggs
>We've been using pxeboot to pull up a menu, to build or rebuild > machines for years. We have this new server, and it fails. Times out. > What's happening is that it tries in this order > .../pxelinux.cfg/b8945908-d6a6-41a9-611d-74a6ab80b83d >

[CentOS-docs] Wiki Translation German

2017-04-11 Thread Andreas Lange
Dear all, I would like to contribute by translating parts of the Wiki from English to German. User: AndreasLange Translation from English to German Would please grant me access rights to do so? Best regards, Andreas ___ CentOS-docs

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, April 11, 2017 1:23 pm, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> >> Years uptime, wow! What do you do when security update for kernel or >> glibc >> is released? These come as often as once every 45 days in my >> observation. >> > They're non-exposed hosts doing very specific things - think internal >

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Years uptime, wow! What do you do when security update for kernel or glibc > is released? These come as often as once every 45 days in my observation. > They're non-exposed hosts doing very specific things - think internal network with an air-gap to the internet. P.

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Chris Adams
One additional DNS server note: you should disable firewalld for any DNS server, caching or authoritative. If you need firewalling, use straight iptables. The reason is that firewalld always enables connection state tracking (at least as far as I can tell), and that should never be used in front

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, April 11, 2017 12:43 pm, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> I just read through this thread, and I must say I'm a bit worried, to >> the point that I'm asking myself: is CentOS still as reliable as it was? > > Yes. > >> This is not a rhetorical question, but a real one. On my Slackware >> servers,

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread David Both
Here are two articles on DNS that I wrote for Opensource.com. Introduction to the Domain Name System (DNS) https://opensource.com/article/17/4/introduction-domain-name-system-dns Build your own DNS name server on Linux https://opensource.com/article/17/4/build-your-own-name-server I hope

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/04/2017 à 19:43, Pete Biggs a écrit : > Look, CentOS is a RHEL clone, RH make money out of this and they aren't > going to produce an OS that is flaky. If they did, no one would use it. That was my initial thought. Thanks for confirming it. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/04/2017 à 19:34, Gordon Messmer a écrit : > 1: Change the "listen-on" settings to bind to network interfaces: > > - listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1; }; > - listen-on-v6 port 53 { ::1; }; > + listen-on port 53 { any; }; > + listen-on-v6 port 53 { any; }; > > 2: Allow

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> I just read through this thread, and I must say I'm a bit worried, to > the point that I'm asking myself: is CentOS still as reliable as it was? Yes. > This is not a rhetorical question, but a real one. On my Slackware > servers, I'm hosting a few dozen websites, various platforms for schools

Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-11 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Tue, 2017-04-11 at 01:40 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote: > Hello list - > > http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver > -in-fedora-using-network-manager > > That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3  > listed) would work, but what is the best

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
On 04/11/2017 10:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 04/11/2017 10:16 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I just read through this thread, and I must say I'm a bit worried, to the point that I'm asking myself: is CentOS still as reliable as it was? Yes. I've been very happy with release 7 across hundreds

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
If you are looking for a recursive resolver, I would highly recommend unbound. If you are looking for an authoritative DNS server, I would highly recommend NSD. I run both and find both extremely easy to configure and maintain. Both are available from the EPEL repositories. I stopped using

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/11/2017 10:16 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I just read through this thread, and I must say I'm a bit worried, to the point that I'm asking myself: is CentOS still as reliable as it was? Yes. I've been very happy with release 7 across hundreds of servers and dozens of configurations.

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/11/2017 10:05 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Is there a*reliable* more or less quick & dirty tutorial on how to get BIND up and running as a primary public nameserver, with the default configuration as a starting point? 1: Change the "listen-on" settings to bind to network interfaces: -

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/11/2017 10:17 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 11/04/2017 à 19:09, John R Pierce a écrit : do you mean 'authoritative DNS server' ? Yes. I've not run bind on c7 yet, but on c6, I just edit /etc/named.conf and create /var/named/master/$zonename then do a 'reload' of the named service.

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:11:19PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > I feel like this conversation has reached the "lets just keep > repeating FUD about systemd" stage and probably won't progress in a > useful direction. > > Maybe we should just jump right to the end that we always have each >

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/04/2017 à 19:09, John R Pierce a écrit : > do you mean 'authoritative DNS server' ? Yes. -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Web : http://www.microlinux.fr Mail : i...@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/04/2017 à 18:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit : > Maybe we should just jump right to the end that we always have each > time this comes up. systemd is the death of linux and you're leaving > for FreeBSD/devuan/whatever. Lets just move along now. I've been using CentOS 5.x almost exclusively

Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/11/2017 10:05 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: I just installed CentOS 7 on a public server. I'd like to setup BIND as a primary DNS server for a few domains. do you mean 'authoritative DNS server' ? -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz

[CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi, I just installed CentOS 7 on a public server. I'd like to setup BIND as a primary DNS server for a few domains. Until now, all my public machines were running Slackware Linux, and setting up BIND on a Slackware machine is relatively easy. In its out of the box configuration, it has a

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/11/2017 09:48 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: Interesting that you should cite Stallman because freedom is an issue here, we've been reduced to Microsoft when it comes to init. We've lost most of our flexibility with no option to choose piecemeal what we want and don't want. You also

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 09:24:11AM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > Well, sorta yes and sorta no Jonathan. Yes, in that I've moved my > personal systems to Linux distros that don't use systemd. > > No in the it's not "FUD"... The complaints about the code and > development are facts. Not

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Leroy Tennison
Interesting that you should cite Stallman because freedom is an issue here, we've been reduced to Microsoft when it comes to init. We've lost most of our flexibility with no option to choose piecemeal what we want and don't want. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Holway"

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Hi, folks, We've been using pxeboot to pull up a menu, to build or rebuild machines for years. We have this new server, and it fails. Times out. What's happening is that it tries in this order

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Leroy Tennison
Interesting, I'm going to have to look into this. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Billings" To: "centos" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:32:49 AM Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:02:56AM -0500, Leroy Tennison

[CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2017-04-11 Thread m . roth
Hi, folks, We've been using pxeboot to pull up a menu, to build or rebuild machines for years. We have this new server, and it fails. Times out. What's happening is that it tries in this order .../pxelinux.cfg/b8945908-d6a6-41a9-611d-74a6ab80b83d

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 04/11/2017 09:11 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 09:02:45AM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote: How about over 30 and it took me a week? No, I don't carry a CS degree or cert of any kind either, just some high school. For me, systemd has been an absolute nightmare of

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Christian, Mark
On Tue, 2017-04-11 at 12:11 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: Maybe we should just jump right to the end that we always have each > time this comes up.  systemd is the death of linux and you're leaving > for FreeBSD/devuan/whatever.  Lets just move along now. +1

Re: [CentOS] jave-1.5.0 on centos 7...

2017-04-11 Thread Scot P. Floess
I found this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase5-419410.html On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Ian Diddams wrote: Curring a long story short... we had a centos 5 server running jboss 6 and jboss 4.2.3GA because of centois 5 EOL TPTB have

[CentOS] jave-1.5.0 on centos 7...

2017-04-11 Thread Ian Diddams
Curring a long story short... we had a centos 5 server running jboss 6 and jboss 4.2.3GA because of centois 5 EOL TPTB have decreed this server needs migratiung to a Centos 7 server But...  the hboss 4.2.3GA jboss app uses java 1.5.0 (_22 FTWT). I can't *(unsurprisingly!) find java 1.5.0 under

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 09:02:45AM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > How about over 30 and it took me a week? No, I don't carry a CS > degree or cert of any kind either, just some high school. > > For me, systemd has been an absolute nightmare of unexpected reboots > and non-transparently broken

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 04/11/2017 07:50 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: I'd much rather have a bash script to look at-- and manually step through. Is that a joke? Bash is an almighty impenetrable nightmare. I've been doing *nix for nearly 10 years and *still* am unable to read anything vaguely complicated in bash

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Andrew Holway
> > most scripts are perfectly clear. This is the Richard Stallman assumption: He assumes that the average normal person is able to program Fortran 77 and Lisp and are able to spend inordinate amounts of time debugging and getting obscure OSS software packages working because using Skype and

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread m . roth
Andrew Holway wrote: >> >> I'd much rather have a bash script to look at-- and manually step >> through. > Same here. > > Is that a joke? Bash is an almighty impenetrable nightmare. I've been > doing *nix for nearly 10 years and *still* am unable to read anything vaguely > complicated in bash

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread m . roth
Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:02:56AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> This does concern me, another post referred to the heavy-handed way >> in which systemd has been implemented and I totally agree. "You >> will conform" - no exceptions. What I fear is that we will lose

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Andrew Holway
> > I'd much rather have a bash script to look at-- and manually step through. Is that a joke? Bash is an almighty impenetrable nightmare. I've been doing *nix for nearly 10 years and *still* am unable to read anything vaguely complicated in bash whereas I can write fairly decent python after 6

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread ken
On 04/11/2017 09:10 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: Another huge concern: It breaks, someone else has to fix it because it's in the C source - after it reaches a high enough priority. At least with scripts you could conceivably hack it. From what I've read there is some ability to get systemd to

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Tue, April 11, 2017 8:12 am, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Sun, April 9, 2017 00:39, Anthony K wrote: >> According to "Arthur Schopenhauer": >> >> "All truth passes through three stages. >> First, it is ridiculed. >> Second, it is violently opposed. >> Third, it is accepted as

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread ken
On 04/11/2017 07:42 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, ken wrote: And I have to wonder, why in /usr/lib/systemd/system/ is there a file named -.slice ?? Didn't anyone see a problem with this...? or countless possible problems? Doesn't instill confidence. Well wonder no more!!

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:02:56AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: > This does concern me, another post referred to the heavy-handed way > in which systemd has been implemented and I totally agree. "You > will conform" - no exceptions. What I fear is that we will lose the > ability to control the

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread isdtor
Leroy Tennison writes: > Another huge concern: It breaks, someone else has to fix it because it's in > the C source - after it reaches a high enough priority. At least with > scripts you could conceivably hack it. From what I've read there is some > ability to get systemd to defer to a

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread James B. Byrne
On Sun, April 9, 2017 00:39, Anthony K wrote: > According to "Arthur Schopenhauer": > > "All truth passes through three stages. > First, it is ridiculed. > Second, it is violently opposed. > Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." > > I must admit that I skipped through the

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Leroy Tennison
Another huge concern: It breaks, someone else has to fix it because it's in the C source - after it reaches a high enough priority. At least with scripts you could conceivably hack it. From what I've read there is some ability to get systemd to defer to a script, I'm going to have to become

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Leroy Tennison
And to add to the issues concerning consistency, what if you have a fail over unit and you're replicating configuration (i.e. NIC), you really prefer that NIC names remain the same. Given the hardware morass underneath all of this, the only safe choice (regardless of whether you use systemd,

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread isdtor
> er, I meant to add that the 09: seems to correspond with the enp9s* and the > 0a: seems to correspond with the enp10s* I wrote myself a little script that uses /sys/class/net, ethtool and lspci to identify which interface corresponds to which bus slot/lspci entry.

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
On 04/11/2017 05:39 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 04/11/2017 05:30 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:09:01AM -0400, Pete Orrall wrote: And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5 manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do names

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
On 04/11/2017 05:30 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:09:01AM -0400, Pete Orrall wrote: And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5 manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do names like enp5s0 offer any convenience to

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Orrall
> But the consistent device naming in Linux comes from slot index > numbers, physical location and even the MAC (if so configured), and > not what driver it uses. > >

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:09:01AM -0400, Pete Orrall wrote: > > And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5 > > manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do > > names like enp5s0 offer any convenience to *anyone* not a hardware > > engineer? > > As

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:09:01AM -0400, Pete Orrall wrote: > > And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5 > > manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do > > names like enp5s0 offer any convenience to *anyone* not a hardware > > engineer? > > As

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Pete Orrall
> And *why* random NIC names? Quick, you've got servers from 5 > manufacturers, of different ages... what's the NIC going to be called? Do > names like enp5s0 offer any convenience to *anyone* not a hardware > engineer? As someone else had stated, it's not related to SystemD but Fedora/RHEL has

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread me
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, ken wrote: And I have to wonder, why in /usr/lib/systemd/system/ is there a file named -.slice ?? Didn't anyone see a problem with this...? or countless possible problems? Doesn't instill confidence. Well wonder no more!! Simply look it up in the man pages. It is

Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-11 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: > From the man page that does tell it not to mess with /etc/resolv.conf - > thank you. That will work. > > On 04/11/2017 02:21 AM, anax wrote: > >> Hi Alice >> man NetworkManager.conf >> >> in

Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
From the man page that does tell it not to mess with /etc/resolv.conf - thank you. That will work. On 04/11/2017 02:21 AM, anax wrote: Hi Alice man NetworkManager.conf in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf dns=none *snip* ___

Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-11 Thread anax
Hi Alice man NetworkManager.conf in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf dns=none suomi On 04/11/2017 10:40 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: Hello list - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager That says it works for

Re: [CentOS-virt] unable to execute QEMU command 'migrate': this feature or command is not currently supported

2017-04-11 Thread Valentin Guggiana
Dear Xlord Hum..if the live migration is not happening on a shared storage, then I think it is best to have offline migration copy to image and hook up to the destinated server instead, this is a short-cut path I suppose. It must be live. In the meantime is was able to do it. The problem is

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread ken
On 04/10/2017 08:13 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: On 04/10/2017 03:20 PM, Pete Biggs wrote: I must admit that I skipped through the first and second stages - I never found creating init scripts a joy and instead opted to write my own scripts that I launched via inittab. As such, I welcomed the

[CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-11 Thread Alice Wonder
Hello list - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3 listed) would work, but what is the best way with NetworkManager to set it up to use the localhost for DNS ?