On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:56 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why locate never usually worked
for me - it hadn't updated.
find is fast, especially when I restrict the search paths.
But locate
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
One *does* have to remember the mlocate package's limitations. It
doesn't browse network mounted directories, it doesn't browse /tmp or
look for other excluded targets, and it runs with the nightly cron
jobs. So if you're looking for files in
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote:
All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ.
How does one remove it ?
yum erase updated ?
It is not present in any CRON.
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Always Learning wrote:
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote:
All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ.
How does one remove it ?
yum erase updated ?
It is not present in any CRON.
yes it is: /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote:
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote:
All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ.
How does one remove it ?
yum erase updated ?
It is not present in any CRON.
If it's installed, it should have a
Always Learning wrote, On 01/28/2011 10:25 AM:
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote:
All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ.
How does one remove it ?
yum erase updated ?
It is not present in any CRON.
There is a new cron in town.
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
snip
One *does* have to remember the mlocate package's limitations. It
doesn't browse network mounted directories, it doesn't browse /tmp or
look for other excluded targets, and it runs with the nightly cron
jobs. So if you're looking for files in /var/tmp/ or an NFS
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 16:36 +0100, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
yes it is: /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron
No trace. That is probably why it never worked for me.
With best regards,
Paul.
England,
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On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:36 +, John Hodrien wrote:
If it's installed, it should have a cron job here:
/etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron
The package is called mlocate, as has already been mentioned in this thread.
Appears not to have been installed. No trace of anything in /var/lib
either.
updatedb is not a daemon or package. It's run by cron automatically in the
night once you install slocate.
Kai
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Always Learning wrote on Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:18:26 +:
Appears not to have been installed. No trace of anything in /var/lib
either.
It's not clear what you want to express. If you didn't install mlocate
there will be no locate or updatedb, of course.
Kai
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote:
updatedb is not a daemon or package. It's run by cron automatically in the
night once you install slocate.
Kai
In CentOS 5.x, and RHEL 5.x, it's in the mlocate package.
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 18:44 +1100, Les Bell wrote:
Paul, if you want a basic explanation of the rationale behind the Linux
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, you might enjoy this article from a course I
wrote years ago - it's a little dated, but still applicable today.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote:
[...]
.fs
# /bin/bash
find /data -iwholename *$1
find /ax -iwholename *$1
find /bx -iwholename *$1
find /cx -iwholename *$1
Obviously with the chmod +x. The last one makes
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote:
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote:
Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL
fame swallowed Red Hat,
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:37:48AM +, Always Learning wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana!
Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them.
Still have my unused Open Solaris disks from
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 09:58 -0500, Brian Mathis wrote:
You may not be aware of the locate command? Nightly there is a job
that runs (updatedb) that scans the disk and saves file locations.
Locate searches this database instead of you have to do a 'find'. The
only thing it won't get are
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why locate never usually worked
for me - it hadn't updated.
find is fast, especially when I restrict the search paths.
But locate is faster still, in all but the smallest of cases. I'd only tend
to use find
I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically
extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on
his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7.
His super-duper new laptop arrived. Acer, AMD 4 core, fast etc. but not
as nice looking as my
On 01/25/2011 09:49 AM, Always Learning wrote:
I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically
extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on
his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7.
[...]
For a new laptop your best hope for a
Always Learning wrote:
snip
After 8 hours on Saturday I could sometimes see hubs in the
neighbourhood but could not connect to my own hub using WPA2.
iwlist wlan0 scan
produced technical details of local hubs - but still could not connect.
NetworkManager sometimes froze.
Spent many
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote:
I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically
extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on
his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7.
His super-duper
Mark wrote:-
About 5 years ago, I had to install a wireless card in my tower, and it's
an ATH9xx, I *think* - I can check this evening, if that's relevant. I was
running SuSE, and had to find drivers from madwifi. A few minutes of
googling found...
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
wrote:
I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically
extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on
his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7.
His
Jerry Franz wrote:
For a new laptop your best hope for a successful native install is
probably Ubuntu 10.10. Laptops in particular are difficult platforms for
hardware support and CentOS5 is not 'cutting edge'. If you want CentOS
on it to work well, you will probably need to wait for
Always Learning wrote:
Mark wrote:-
About 5 years ago, I had to install a wireless card in my tower, and
it's an ATH9xx, I *think* - I can check this evening, if that's
relevant. I
was running SuSE, and had to find drivers from madwifi. A few minutes of
googling found...
Brian Mathis wrote:
CentOS is great for servers,
I agree. I have 2 VPS and two desktop servers on it.
but absolutely not for a new person
you're trying to get to try Linux. This approach actually hurts Linux
since people think oh I tried Linux and it sucked.
The only thing that 'sucks'
On 1/25/2011 12:18 PM, Always Learning wrote:
An alternative I've used is to install VMware Workstation on top of
Windows and install Linux into a VM. Running fullscreen the practical
difference is nil. Then you by and large get the laptop hardware support
gratis from the windows layer
Always Learning wrote:
snip
Thanks for the Ubuntu recommendation. I tend to buy the DVD's and
install from them. I have VBox running Win98SE on a Centos desktop
because I want to run software and applications from 1992 (my own DOS
Cobol database) which also runs in DosBox, 1993 (my customised
Mark Roth wrote:
You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right?
Right :-)
Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on
support fees. Meanwhile a bunch of supporters invented a downstream
variant called Centos. They worked very hard to remove all the
Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User community
(Wife and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always. For the new
people to Linux I've noted that NT admins can very easily install ubuntu
and get it running (for awhile). From what I remember it had a Windozie
feel.
For years, I've been using Fedora Core for my desktop/laptop systems and
CentOS for my servers. It's a good balance, because upgrading Fedora Core
takes about an hour or so, plus a day or two of occasional interruptions to
shake out various drivers and stuff. Also, I don't have to keep two
Always Learning wrote:
Mark Roth wrote:
You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right?
Right :-)
Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on
Actually, you were supposed to buy the CDs, which I did (I really suppose
I can get rid of my 5.2, 6, 7,
Benjamin Smith wrote:
snip
On my hard disk, I have my /home, /boot, and / directories each on their
own partitions, and when I'm upgrading my Fedora, I just format / and
/boot,
and leave /home alone. Although I've transfered it a few times between hard
snip
Yep. ALWAYS have /home on its own
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
From: m.r...@5-cent.us
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K
disaster
Always Learning wrote:
snip
After 8 hours on Saturday I could sometimes see hubs
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Gene Brandt bran...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User community (Wife
and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always. For the new people to
Linux I've noted that NT admins can very easily install ubuntu
Where did I say that!
From what I remember it had a Windozie feel
In MY opinion ( only an opinion) Winblows will never be stable.
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wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Mark Roth wrote:
You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right?
Right :-)
Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on
Actually, you
Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the pretty
butterfly screen savers, or open email attachments that things go wrong.
It is very vulnerable, especially IE, but with a little education,
preventive steps, and decent backups, the majority of businesses in the
world
Gene Brandt wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 15:04 -0500, Brian Mathis wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Gene Brandt bran...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User
community (Wife and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always.
For the
compdoc wrote:
Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the
pretty
butterfly screen savers, or open email attachments that things go wrong.
It is very vulnerable, especially IE, but with a little education,
preventive steps, and decent backups, the majority of
On 01/25/2011 03:04 PM, Brian Mathis wrote:
I need to call you on this one. Windozie (implying some kind of
decent user interface) and stability are not mutually exclusive, as
your comment suggests. In the old days you may have had to choose,
but that's long past. Windows 7 is very stable,
Windows CAN be plenty stable... I used a very stable windows box just like this
one this morning!
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19991001
On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
compdoc wrote:
Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the
I do IT for local businesses in Denver. I build workstations and servers, do
hardware upgrades, networking, VPNs, firewalls, virtual machines - anything
a business might need. Windows and linux.
Any tech worth his salt will have learned how windows works and how to
repair it. It is possible to
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:21:35 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
I've got 7 on my work laptop, and my lady's got Vista at home. I *despise*
both of them: they do their best to hide what you need to do, if it's
anything other than looking at pictures, playing music, email, and web.
And, IMO,
Max Hetrick wrote:
On 01/25/2011 03:04 PM, Brian Mathis wrote:
I need to call you on this one. Windozie (implying some kind of
decent user interface) and stability are not mutually exclusive, as
your comment suggests. In the old days you may have had to choose,
but that's long past.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
:
* These notes brought to you in behalf of the Professional Organization of
English Majors, who want to remind you that it's == it is, and is not the
possessive whatchamacallit, its, as in it's got a shoe on its foot.
So, it is got a
Mark wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
:
* These notes brought to you in behalf of the Professional Organization
of English Majors, who want to remind you that it's == it is, and is not
the possessive whatchamacallit, its, as in it's got a shoe on its foot.
compdoc wrote:
snip
My first 'real' computer was a Fat Mac, so I still love a good GUI. And
Windows has a nice GUI.
Windows was ok. Oh, sorry, Windows 3.x. One reason I dispise Window (post
3.x) is the incredibly stupid design decision to put the GUI into ring 0.
Something goes wrong with the
On 1/25/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze
and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft)
fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft - wait - wait some
more - never get a response - call the
Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Running XP as a server???
There are lots of bloatware Windows products which use MS SQL server as an
embedded database, Les. My personal favourite was the software for a TV
tuner card (Pinnacle) which used SQL Server to store its program schedule.
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:01 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
processing power of a mid-nineties Cray supercomputer... and they run like
an 8088 (ok, maybe an 80286), just for all the eye candy: style, not
content.
Give me the good old 6502 any day and its mainframe predecessor with a
36 bit
Les Bell wrote:
Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Running XP as a server???
There are lots of bloatware Windows products which use MS SQL server as an
embedded database, Les. My personal favourite was the software for a TV
tuner card (Pinnacle) which used SQL Server to store its
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 01:45:34 pm Always Learning wrote:
Give me the good old 6502 any day and its mainframe predecessor with a
36 bit word which was 4 Ascii or 6 BCD characters.
http://www.6502.org/tools/emu/
Done?
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On 01/25/2011 03:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze
and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft)
fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft - wait - wait some
more - never get a response - call the
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote:
Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL
fame swallowed Red Hat, like they swallowed MySQL, Solaris, Open Office
and Visual Box. The long term future for these is uncertain.
Whaaa...? Facts would
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote:
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote:
Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL
fame swallowed Red Hat, like they swallowed MySQL, Solaris, Open Office
and Visual Box. The long
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
wrote:
Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will have ?
Probably whatever Fedora Core 12 (?) has. Whether this will work on
your friend's laptop is
Quoting Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net:
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
wrote:
Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will have ?
My RHEL 6 machine (fully updated) has kernel
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:46 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
snip
Thanks for the Ubuntu recommendation. I tend to buy the DVD's and
install from them. I have VBox running Win98SE on a Centos desktop
because I want to run software and applications from 1992 (my own
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 05:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 1/25/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze
and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft)
fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft -
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:55 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote:
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote:
Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL
fame swallowed Red Hat, like they
On 01/25/11 8:49 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Cobol was the second language I leaned in 1967 from a hardware
manufacturer's tutor who didn't have a clue. The first was Easycoder (an
assembler type) which I loved.
do you mean autocoder? that was the 'assembler' on the IBM 1400 series
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:41 PM, Barry Brimer wrote:
Quoting Always Learningcen...@g7.u22.net:
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org
wrote:
Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana!
Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them.
Still have my unused Open Solaris disks from 2008.05 and my single CD of
Red Hat Linux v.6 from 1999. :-)
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On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 21:29 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
On 01/25/11 8:49 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Cobol was the second language I leaned in 1967 from a hardware
manufacturer's tutor who didn't have a clue. The first was Easycoder (an
assembler type) which I loved.
do you mean
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:29 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:41 PM, Barry Brimer wrote:
My RHEL 6 machine (fully updated) has kernel 2.6.32-71.14.1.
Alright, that's it, I want Centos 6 now!
Me too. Yes please Mr Centos.
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Paul.
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:49 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Benjamin Smith wrote:
On my hard disk, I have my /home, /boot, and / directories each on their
own partitions, and when I'm upgrading my Fedora, I just format / and
/boot,
and leave /home alone. Although I've transfered it a few
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 01:37 PM, Always Learning wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana!
Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them.
Still have my unused Open Solaris disks from 2008.05
Always Learning cen...@g7.u22.net wrote:
Thanks for the good advice. I wondered why the installer gave those
choices. Now it makes sense. All my production data resides on /data
and I tend to leave the standard directories alone
Paul, if you want a basic explanation of the rationale behind
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