Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-03 Thread William Bowen
Eric, You really don't want to go down the only-crazy-people-need-therapy road, do you? On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah...coming from the guy who is actually in therapy... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-03 Thread Eric Roberts
It was a counter to him calling me insane...please read... -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:william.bo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... Eric, You

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Sam
Awww...so sweet Larry's going soft:) I like bitter or red ales or a nice lager. . On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: AS much as I personally dislike Sam's ideology, his ideology simply does not fit within the definitions of fascism as noted here:

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
No you won't...you will lose your benefits. It says nowhere that you will be charged with a felony. Eric -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:48 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
No...this is the same person that whines about people collecting welfare and he whines that if he works...which is saying that he can, he loses his benefits. So if he can work and is capable of working, then he should and not just collect his 100% non-service connected disability. So feel free

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Sam
It has nothing to do with funding, most agree more funding just makes it worse. It's the culture of corruption, these idiots get huge bonuses for gaming the wait time numbers. This agency needs to go away. It would cost a fraction of the cost to put the Vets on regular insurance plans. But then

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I still think you're a complete ass however. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Awww...so sweet Larry's going soft:) I like bitter or red ales or a nice lager. . On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: AS much as I

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Sam
That's the Larry I know . On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I still think you're a complete ass however. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Awww...so sweet Larry's going soft:) I like bitter or red ales or

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Vivec
@Eric: Based on what he is saying, and the reading on the subject, there is some category that the US Government PREVENTS someone from working. So no, this isn't voluntary which kinda invalidates this opinion. Based on some criteria, the US Government has determined that Tim, based on his past,

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
I have asked multiple times to be removed from these programs. On Jun 2, 2014 9:39 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: No...this is the same person that whines about people collecting welfare and he whines that if he works...which is saying that he can, he loses his

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
If you get a job, you will be dropped because you no longer qualify...From everything you posted, that is what I took from it. I didn't see anything that said you will be charged with a crime for working...unless of course you do not notify them that you are working. Nothing at stated that you

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
We often refer to Individual Unemployability as TDIU or IU. The Individual Unemployability Benefit is equal in every way to a 100% Schedular rating. The compensation is 100% and that dollar amount is equal to both ratings. If the veteran is rated as 100% Schedular, he or she may work at any job

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
OK...but show me where it says that you cannot have a job and will be prosecuted if you get one (assuming that you report that you have a job and do not try to hide the fact that you have one)... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014

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2014-06-02 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: OK...but show me where it says that you cannot have a job and will be prosecuted if you get one (assuming that you report that you have a job and do not try to hide the fact that you have one)... Just

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2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
I have a field manager. He is a gs-13 named Kris Wolf. He decides whether I have to stay in the unemployability and fiduciary programs. I've asked to be removed for two years now. Certified letters, followed the appeals process. I've had the atf and fbi in my home on multiple occasions. I

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
You either admitted to smoking pot or you tested positive...i am guessing you tested positive. There doesn't need to be a conviction. You broke the law by smoking pot. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:54 AM To: cf-community

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
There doesn't need to be a conviction? Are you serious? Do you know what hearsay is? Due process? Innocent until proven guilty? This isn't just about guns. Until 2010 there wasn't even an appeals process. Until last year I was no longer permitted to purchase real property. I'm 100% honest

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
If you test positive...you can be fired from your job...lose your CDL license...all sorts of shit without a trial. Don't be naive Tim... Yes...there are federal laws against it. It is what they are using to bust people even though it is legal in the state. They have been doing that with

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Maureen
No, he thinks you deserve to have your rights trampled because he disagrees with your politics. He's just using the pot charge as a smoke-screen to cover his real agenda. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:56 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: So you're of the opinion that I deserve to have my

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
I don't have a job, as you've loved to point out. I'm dealing with the government, and they do not have the power to share my medical information or use it against me. This isn't a private interaction, it's not even a voluntary interaction. The federal crime comes with distribution and certain

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Yet if you come up hot on the piss test at the VA...you get entered into all sorts of programs for drug abuse. That is the reality of the situation. Just like you can lose your job if you come up hot in a drug test...no court required. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout

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2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
No Mo...if you actually bothered to read before vomiting at the mouth, he stated that he could not have a job because he would have a felony charge levied against him. He also complained that because he came up hot on a piss test that he is being penalized...he violated the law and is whining

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2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
Oh, and as for my refusal to be treated. 2 weeks ago I went into the patient advocate here. We talked for a while about my case and the way the doctor was treating me, and this was the second or third time (enough that she remembered me) lodging the same exact complaints. My doctor refuses to

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
And that is illegal and immoral Your job is a private voluntary interaction. Dealing with the government is not. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yet if you come up hot on the piss test at the VA...you get entered into all sorts of

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
I din't say I came up hot, you did. I tell them I smoke all the time. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: No Mo...if you actually bothered to read before vomiting at the mouth, he stated that he could not have a job because he would have a

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
I'm not on pain meds or anything else except for antibiotics for my skin. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:36 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I din't say I came up hot, you did. I tell them I smoke all the time. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Eric Roberts

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Telling them that you smoke is just as damning... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 5:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... I din't say I came up hot, you

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
According to what? On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Telling them that you smoke is just as damning... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 5:36 PM To: cf-community Subject:

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Your personal experience for one... I have seen that with other vets who admit to pot use and other drug use. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
But what is the legal justification? On 6/2/14, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Your personal experience for one... I have seen that with other vets who admit to pot use and other drug use. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent:

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Because it is a scheduled drug...it allows them to do it. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... But what is the legal

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
Where is that written down? On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Because it is a scheduled drug...it allows them to do it. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:40 PM To:

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
I think it is fucked up...especially with many states completely legalizing it or at least legalizing medical MJ. I am hoping that once IL gets it shit together with the regs (we passed medical MJ earlier this year), I will have private insurance so I can get a medical MJ card. A few tokes of

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
That still doesn't answer the question. You totally haven't addressed what I just posted in regards to the recording, and them not even scheduling me. You haven't shown me anywhere in any document that gives them the power to do this. HIPPA should specifically prevent some of this, as should

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
http://www.justice.gov/dea/druginfo/ds.shtml -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... Where is that written down? On Mon,

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
Well, lookie here: http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/844a.htm SUBCHAPTER I — CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENTPart D — Offenses And Penalties §844a. Civil penalty for possession of small amounts of certain controlled substances See where it says civil? Do you understand the difference

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
It is also a violation of VA Regs. http://www.justanswer.com/military-law/27e7x-us-veteran-100-service-connected-disability-and.html Expert: P. Simmons replied 4 years ago. Thanks OK, did some research this morning. I could not find any authority that states you will loose eligibility. I

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-02 Thread LRS Scout
Did you read what you pasted? I haven't been incarcerated, that would require a criminal charge, and a trial. It said they could report it to local authorities. I've smoked in front of local authorities here. I've never even gotten a ticket, only one even dumped my shit. It's an infraction

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
It's because it fits into Sam's fascist worldview fed by Fox News and folks like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh. It doesn't matter what facts or the volume of facts thrown at him, he will insist that this means the law is bad then scream Benghazi. Eric -Original Message- From: Judah

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the only person who mentioned Bush is you. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: So we're still blaming Bush for everything? The money is there for the VA, they just abuse it. Obamacare has no chance of being better. . On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry C.

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
Only eight of those years are thanks to Bush. If you don't want the job don't apply for it. We're pretty deep into the second term to still be blaming the last guy. You are taking out your ass about the VA. While the health care issues are regional, due to the way the VA is organized, the

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
You said 12 years thanks to Bush On Jun 1, 2014 2:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: the only person who mentioned Bush is you. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: So we're still blaming Bush for everything? The money is there for the VA,

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
my bad I didn't read enough I did mention Shrubbery. That said, think of it genius, what happens when 1) your guys are shot at more don't a few get hit? 2) with more people getting wounded don't you think that would result in greater demands on the system Just a wild guess on my part however.

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Fascist is too much. Sam is no Fascist. He's too civilized for that. He may be at the right wing end of this group, but he's no fascist. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: It's because it fits into Sam's fascist worldview fed by Fox News and

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
Really, your emergency room isn't required to treat by law like every other one in America? Plus you said you were 20% that means you pay a co pay and stuff, and how far away you were. You went through the process in between wars, and you've worked for most of that time and had other health

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
As there are less people actually insured now? On May 31, 2014 10:21 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Think it's saved any lives of people who couldn't get healthcare before, or for conditions that weren't covered? ᐧ On 31 May 2014 10:08, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Just look

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
He was asking about obamacare On May 31, 2014 5:19 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yup...if it wasn't for the VA...I would have died long time ago due to complications of diabetes -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday,

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
You're insane. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've read you write. On May 31, 2014 5:21 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Exactly. I think it has done quite well given the hand it was dealt. The secret waiting lists were an unconscionable violation of our

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
That the law is bad is evidenced by the fact that there are less people now insured than there were before the law took effect. It was demonstrated in the abject failure of the launch of the registration, the rising costs, how can people defend this crap? On Jun 1, 2014 2:32 PM, Eric Roberts

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
The VA has existed longer than 25 years and had Eisenhower style properties all over the nation. They've chosen to only build one hospital, but have built tons of versatility clinics all over so they don't have to let you get private health care, because there is a mileage limit. The blame is

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Bullshit Tim. You have only been experiencing the VA for a couple of years. I first started going to the VA when Clinton was in office. I saw firsthand how it nosedived from day one of the Bush Administration and it fell deep...much like our economy fell deep thanks to him. Not only did Bush

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Not all fascists are like Hitler. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... Fascist is too much. Sam is no Fascist.

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Er only stabilizes you...they do not treat you or give you the meds you need to maintain health. Anyone that thinks the ER does this is way out of touch with reality...\ Most of the past 15 years have been contract work, so no...I had no benefits and because I have diabetes and asthma, no

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Keep parroting Fox news Tim... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... That the law is bad is evidenced by the fact that

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...coming from the guy who is actually in therapy... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... You're insane. That's one

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
AS much as I personally dislike Sam's ideology, his ideology simply does not fit within the definitions of fascism as noted here: http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm At his worse, its simply on the extreme end of the Republican spectrum. When I was younger and in London I remember kicking a

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
I am prohibited by law from maintaining gainful employment http://www.benefits.va.gov/compensation/claims-special-individual_unemployability.asp On Jun 1, 2014 5:07 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Bullshit Tim. You have only been experiencing the VA for a couple of

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
What law is pot break in Ohio? It doesn't. What law am I breaking federally? I'm not, use is not illegal, so you tell me, what the fuck did I do wrong? You forget I enlisted and got out under Clinton too. Pot in Ohio has been decriminalized, it's an infraction, not a crime. As I'm not going

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
As for denial of medical care, think what you want, I've been escorted off site more than once by VA police. This layers time the doctor told me she would not see me after I asked why she didn't give me refills of my required antibiotics. I've already dealt with the patient advocate and the

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2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
No I'm not. Although thanks for making the stereotype plainly obvious. On Jun 1, 2014 5:10 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah...coming from the guy who is actually in therapy... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday,

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
Seriously Eric, look into the fiduciary program and VA unemployability. Everything I said is 100% true. I realize it's only 200,000 veterans that have to deal the worst of its prescriptions, but I'm one of them. On Jun 1, 2014 8:16 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: No I'm not.

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2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.vawatchdog.org/fiduciary-appointments.html On Jun 1, 2014 8:23 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously Eric, look into the fiduciary program and VA unemployability. Everything I said is 100% true. I realize it's only 200,000 veterans that have to deal the worst of its

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2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.vawatchdog.org/tdiu-unemployability.html On Jun 1, 2014 8:28 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.vawatchdog.org/fiduciary-appointments.html On Jun 1, 2014 8:23 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously Eric, look into the fiduciary program and VA

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
So in order to keep your free handouts...you must not be able to work...let' be honest Tim...if you are able to work, then you are scamming the government. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: So

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Probably because you started cursing them out and ot what they saw as becoming or on your way to becoming violent. Personal responsibility Tim... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: So this is

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
It is still a federal offense. Just because they give you a ticket instead of hauling you to jail does not mean it is no longer illegal. It is still a crime. An infraction is still a crime. If it was not a crime, they would not be able to ticket you. Twist it however you want...you seem to

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
An infraction is not a crime. It is not. Go look it up in a law library. I haven't been touched either though, do I'm being at a minimum punished without due process On Jun 1, 2014 8:35 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: It is still a federal offense. Just because they

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Scott Stroz
I am not sure where it says on that page that you are not allowed to be gainfully employed, On Jun 1, 2014 8:06 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I am prohibited by law from maintaining gainful employment

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
http://afterdeployment.t2.health.mil/comment/129 On Jun 1, 2014 9:21 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure where it says on that page that you are not allowed to be gainfully employed, On Jun 1, 2014 8:06 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I am prohibited by law

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2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
Sorry, I have a lot of links around. That's describing the program I was put in, the next link gets into it and lists the law I am not sure where it says on that page that you are not allowed to be gainfully employed, On Jun 1, 2014 8:06 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I am

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
Free handouts Ha So in order to keep your free handouts...you must not be able to work...let' be honest Tim...if you are able to work, then you are scamming the government. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:06 PM To:

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Maureen
As we discussed in another conversation, placing blame gets nothing done. However, if blame is going to be placed, time doesn't matter. It should be laid at the feet of those who are responsible. The problems with the VA go back decades, and are mostly the result of wars that are started but

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Congress provides the funding. Look there for your villains. Very well said, needs to be trumpeted on most issues... but is sadly not understood. I have tried in recent times to distinguish my disdain for administration

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Only Washington state and Colorado have recreational pot legalized...everywhere else, it is still a criminal act. States that have medical marijuana laws require that you have a card for it. If you do not have that and do not live in a state that has legalized medical marijuana...it is still a

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Maureen
You sir, are a clueless ass, whose has no idea what you are talking about. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: So in order to keep your free handouts...you must not be able to work...let' be honest Tim...if you are able to work, then you are

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Is that what you and your fellow conservatives whine about with welfare recipients? Apparently you are getting 100% disability even though you are not 100% rated, according to everything you have posted...so you are getting extra money that was not directly earned via the service connected

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Scott Stroz
I don't get it..I still cannot find (or maybe understand) where it says you are not legally allowed to work. Do you (or these links) mean to say that in order to get the 100% disability benefit you cannot work? On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I have

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread Scott Stroz
I bet if Haliburton could have made a profit off of it, our vets would have the best healthcare on the planet. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: As we discussed in another conversation, placing blame gets nothing done. However, if blame is going to be

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-06-01 Thread LRS Scout
It's like this. I didn't ask to be put in this program. As a matter of fact I've appealed and begged and pleaded every way I can to not be in it. However if I am in it, and I work full time, I will be charged with a federal felony. As though it is fraud. Even though I'm telling them I would

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Sam
Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will look like when fully implemented. Didn't we just waste around $1 billion dollars trying to get the exchanges working and most failed. How's Oregon doing with their exchange? . On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Eric Roberts

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Vivec
Think it's saved any lives of people who couldn't get healthcare before, or for conditions that weren't covered? ᐧ On 31 May 2014 10:08, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will look like when fully implemented. Didn't we just

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You could also look at the Kentucky system which is very successful. As for the Oregon exchange, blame Oracle. They over promised, and under delivered. FWIW however the GOP does appear to be backing away from their anti-ACA stance.

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
AS for the VA scandal, its more of a problem of facilities and access. Because of cuts and increased demands from 12 years of war (courtesy of your hero G. W. Bush) and over promising they don't have the space simply put. In the last 25 years the VA has built only one, that is ONE, new care

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Sam
No, most people on obamacare had insurance. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/24/Obamacare-Skyrockets-Cancer-Patient-s-Meds-to-14-000-for-8-Week-Supply http://nationalreport.net/eleven-deaths-linked-obamacare-critical-patients-die-waiting-approval/ . On Sat, May 31, 2014 at

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Sam
I wouldn't go by the Chamber of Commerce. They are the worst when it comes to big money buying government influence. . On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: You could also look at the Kentucky system which is very successful. As for the Oregon

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Sam
So we're still blaming Bush for everything? The money is there for the VA, they just abuse it. Obamacare has no chance of being better. . On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: AS for the VA scandal, its more of a problem of facilities and access.

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Yup...if it wasn't for the VA...I would have died long time ago due to complications of diabetes -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 9:20 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Exactly. I think it has done quite well given the hand it was dealt. The secret waiting lists were an unconscionable violation of our trust, but efforts to improve the VA with adequate funding had a lot to do with that. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-31 Thread Judah McAuley
The Oregon exchange is certainly an abject failure. It was a large failure on the part of the vendor (Oracle) and on management that did a crappy job of monitoring the vendor and auditing their work (the Oregon Health Authority). Plenty of blame to go around with a doubt. But how does one flawed

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-30 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
For the majority of the law, the full impact won't be seen until the law is fully implemented for both employee employer. The fact that HHS has not implemented the employer mandate says more to me than anecdotal reports. There are other portions of this law that don't bode as well as the

Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-30 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
difficult to lie. you greatly underestimate our political class. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.californiahealthline.org/road-to-reform/2014/then-vs-now-how-dire-predictions-about-obamacare-mostly-didnt-come-to-pass?wpisrc=nl_wonk A tracker

RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform...

2014-05-30 Thread Eric Roberts
...and Sam... -Original Message- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... difficult to lie. you greatly underestimate our political