Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Russ Michaels
Not sure what working in it for 30 years has to do with the topic, this tells us you had a job in a specific area for a certain time thats all, it certainly doesn't mean you know everything there is to know about i.t, or that you were even good at it. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Mark Drew
Going back to the original question, one thing we use is http://highrisehq.com/ which basically by BCC'ing an email in every reply you do (or forwarding an email) it can be stored against that client. Would that help? I know it's not automatic, but then again, I am not sure of your goals.

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
You guys just get ridiculous in your conversations, which, if you'll pardon the profane verbiage, inevitably is reduced to a pissing contest and a sometimes not-so-subtle attempt to demean others by display of something that's supposed to pass for superior knowledge. It's no wonder that geeks

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
I can tinker with that approach, and it might prove beneficial. But I am really after an automated setup that creates a storage system for original-topic emails, along with the replies I send. Much like text messaging provides currently. I can follow a text message conversation easily, because

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Mark Drew
I see what you mean now and yeah, that shouldn't be *too* hard to build. If I had to solve this I would look into either IMAP or POP hooks into the mail server. THen import that into a database for example, so it can be queried. The problem with your SMS Vs Email analogy is that (on my

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread mac jordan
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) ​Am I missing something?​ Just set their mail clients up

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Russ Michaels
I do think you have rather thrown the toys out of the pram here over mine and Dave's Google Apps answers when we were only answering your questions and correcting your misconceptions. One thing that happens often in the world of CF and on this list is that people try to use CFML for everything

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
And Dave, talk about OT! Suggesting I use Google Apps, or anything else, instead of even attempting to answer my question, isn't acceptable to this OP. I've had already looked at Gmail and found it unsuitable. And to suggest that you know best what my clients' need that I do, is terribly

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for NOT answering my question. I've gotten almost no helpful information from this entire conversation, in spite of its tremendous length. Rick - Please take this in the most constructive way possible. You asked a question, got a

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
Some good suggestions, Mark, that address the original question. ;o) I've used POP hooks (if I know what you're referencing), as I described in a earlier post, to based on a scheduled task that ran every 10 minutes or so, and check a third-party email provider to see if an email with a specific

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
I've got to think this through so I can understand how this would work. But first, this organization is in another state, so I don't have control over their clients (I control their accounts, where, I guess I could set a BCC...really haven't checked on it, so I don't remember). And, realize,

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
You should stick to answering the question asked and only the question asked and not offer alternatives unless the OP asks for them. I appreciate the offer to share the alternatives, but please try to not assume that OP's haven't already looked at alternatives and decided to go their own way.

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
And, again, offer what only is asked for, nothing else. Don't take an OP's specific topic OT. If you don't think the OP should consider an alternative, I suggest you wait until the ask. It's not my mailing list, but neither is it yours. I just watch these simple topics devolve into totally OT

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
And, realize, I'm not trying to keep an archive of my *clients* email conversations, I'm just wanting to do this for myself. If it works for me, I may polish it up and offer it as a service to them. In the kind of organization I'm talking about, almost everyone right now wants their email

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
And that's exactly to my point... When I ask a specific question, I only want answers that address that specific question. If it turns out *to me* that the solution I'm considering is wrong, then it's up to me to change my mind. I don't take anyone's advice as unassailable. If we all did that,

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
And, again, offer what only is asked for, nothing else. Don't take an OP's specific topic OT. If you don't think the OP should consider an alternative, I suggest you wait until the ask. It's not my mailing list, but neither is it yours. Again, I'm sorry, but no. I refuse to do that. I get

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: I'm just hard-headed At least we can all agree on that. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
if you're going to suggest Apps for Nonprofits (free) to your client you might want to familiarize yourself with them. Absolutely... But like, I said, for now, this is just for me. My client hasn't asked me for an archiving system. They're just handling that individually. I just wanted

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
Yes, you're going to make this your list under all circumstances. I'm not your client asking for your advice to a problem. I'm asking for any one's experience with a specific approach to a problem. You should respect my question. Yes, I can ignore your responses, but only after wading through

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
Yes, you're going to make this your list under all circumstances. No, but I'm going to respond to questions as I see fit. Those are not the same thing. I'm asking for any one's experience with a specific approach to a problem. You should respect my question. Well, since you put it that way:

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Russ Michaels
Rick Did you notice several emails back I mentioned that gapps is free for non profits? You said many times you primarily didn't want gapps bcoz it costs money, why not at least give it a try now that you know its free and that all your aforementioned complaints have now been proved wrong. Surely

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Rick Faircloth
Yes, I will definitely give it a good look now that I know it's a potential free solution for the USO. Thanks for the info! Rick -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:56 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread UXB
Rick, I have been known to beat a deceased equine from time to time so after reading the entire thread let me enter the fray. Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? ... The rest has been an exercise in attempting to tell me that I should be doing something else I've been

RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
You believe them if you want to. The courts tend not to. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 18 April 2013 05:22 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I said, tired of helping them feed me adverts. They base

Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Watts
You believe them if you want to. The courts tend not to. Can you cite one court case that covers their paid services? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and

How to learn to build mobile apps..

2013-04-18 Thread Mike K
I need to learn how to build mobile apps for iPad/iPhone and Android. I have been building responsive web sites for mobile devices and think I have a reasonable understanding of the issues involved with that, but I have a project coming up that will require a full-on app not just a web site. So

Re: How to learn to build mobile apps..

2013-04-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Phonegap (html5/css/js skillz needed) Titanium (js skillz needed) Native development (2 different environments, one for iDevices, one for Android) if at all possible, I prefer the first. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: I need to learn how to build

Re: How to learn to build mobile apps..

2013-04-18 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
as for how to learn, it depends on your learning style. all 3 approaches have excellent examples, which is how I learn best, pulling apart other peoples code to understand how it works. all have good training websites, and lots of youtube and slideshow walkthroughs and all have good books,

Re: How to learn to build mobile apps..

2013-04-18 Thread Cameron Childress
I like Titanium: Some decent but not awesome basic instruction: http://mobile.tutsplus.com/tutorials/appcelerator/appcelerator-development/ -Cameron On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.comwrote: Phonegap (html5/css/js skillz needed) Titanium (js skillz