RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
As a heavy Bootstrap user, I use LESS constantly. Once you really dig in, you find out quickly just how useful it truly is. Tech like LESS and SASS are perfect for those creating skinned applications. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia

RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
I'm just now looking seriously into LESS and its usage. So far, I've really only looked at its use of variables. As far as variables are concerned, I don't see much difference between using variables and classes. I can define, say, a class this way in CSS: .titleColor { color: blue } and use

RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Che Vilnonis
Rick, this short article may be of help... http://davidwalsh.name/starting-css?utm_source=CSS-Weeklyutm_campaign=Issue -75utm_medium=email -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Best

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Variables are on small advantage. It's nice to be able to set a variable for a color, for instance, and reuse it in several hundred locations, in a variety of scenarios, without having to apply a separate class to thousands of lines of code throughout an application. If the color changes, the

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Claude Schnéegans
Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I was over by the adobe site and trying to download the CF docs is close to impossible. Does anyone know the direct addresses for the CF 10 docs? Thanks Michael ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
You're right, you could do something like this with CF. But why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist that can do it for you? Now, if you need something that one of these frameworks can not accomplish for you... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Byron Mann
Also, I don't believe the installer for CF 10 installs them if you choose the option during install. I reported this issue after the release, so it might be fixed or perhaps not. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Sep 10, 2013 1:00 PM, Michael Dinowitz

RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:57 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re:

CF10 Server Issues

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick Kerley
We have had a lot of issues with CF10 running on our server. We've gotten to the point that we've killed off our old VM Server and have replaced it with a new one. Everything was going okay but last night in the middle of the night the server crashed.  My guess is that it has something to do

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread John M Bliss
I think here...? https://learn.adobe.com/wiki/display/coldfusionen/Home On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: I was over by the adobe site and trying to download the CF docs is close to impossible. Does anyone know the direct addresses for

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Dave Watts
I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone. I found them all from the main CF documentation page except for the CFML reference, actually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Claude Schnéegans
But why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist Learning another language to do what can be done as easily by the language I've been using for years looks like reinventing the wheel to me. ~| Order the

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Maybe you can save everyone the trouble and write the CFLESS equivelant, a la CFWheels;) Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Raymond Camden
Where exactly Dave - I didn't see the links. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone. I found them all from the main CF documentation page except for the CFML reference, actually.

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Dave Watts
Where exactly Dave - I didn't see the links. Go here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Admin/index.html Click on the doc book you want (except for CFML Reference) from the left-side menu. Then, in the upper right corner, you'll see a PDF link. For the CFML reference, I couldn't

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Those are the docs, but where are the download links? For that matter, where are the previous/next buttons. Since the CF community help air app broke I want to get a local copy of the docs. Well, local to this machine which has restricted internet access. Thanks though On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Raymond Camden
Ah, I was going via the site and from what I can see, there is no link to them anymore, which to me, is a problem I want to fix (and I've already asked internally). On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Paul Hastings p...@sustainablegis.comwrote: On 9/11/2013 12:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Raymond Camden
I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: Those are the docs, but where are the download links? For that matter, where are the previous/next buttons. Since the CF community

RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks, Cutter... I read the article you referenced and it did clarify some things, but, being an overview of many different approaches and frameworks to utilizing CSS, it opened up a large can of worms! I'm going to check out the BEM approach, first, just as a starting point. Re: your

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Paul Hastings
On 9/11/2013 12:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone. would be nice if the HTML versions were also still available to d/l. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Claude Schnéegans
How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Billy Cravens
LESS (and SASS/SCSS) are common, widely used CSS preprocessors. Frameworks like Bootstrap come with LESS files. I could also write my own database use XML files and CF's XML/struct/array capabilities, but that would be quite ridiculous. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013,

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Mike K
t why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist Learning another language to do what can be done as easily by the language I've been using for years looks like reinventing the wheel to me. That's the advantage of Less (and SASS too for that matter) - you dont learn any new

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Nathan Strutz
I don't think it's recorded anywhere, but if you want me to give it somewhere, let me know. ;) nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Billy Cravens
Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger

Re: docs download

2013-09-10 Thread Dave Watts
I was over by the adobe site and trying to download the CF docs is close to impossible. Does anyone know the direct addresses for the CF 10 docs? Configuring and Administering Adobe ColdFusion 10: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Admin/coldfusion_10_admin.pdf Adobe ColdFusion 10

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Roger Austin
On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed.

Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?

2013-09-10 Thread Dean Lawrence
Rick, CFSTATIC (https://github.com/DominicWatson/cfstatic) will combine and minify both standard CSS and JS files as well as work with LESS file. I've used it in a number of projects and it works great. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: But one