I would fall into the some category above, for what that's worth.
How
would you ensure participation is effective?
I don't work for Macromedia, so I can't really suggest changes that
would allow for them to have more effective participation.
-Matt
Hitler
:deletes rest of unread messages in thread :-)
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
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Dave Watts wrote:
However, I'd recommend that you avoid using trusted connections for
database
authentication against SQL Server anyway, for various reasons.
Just Catching up on the thread here. I was told by a somewhat accomplished
[1] CF developer a few years ago that it was better to use
Dave Wilson wrote:
Just Catching up on the thread here. I was told by a somewhat accomplished
[1] CF developer a few years ago that it was better to use trusted
connections because SQL 7 stores it's SQL authentication account details in
an unencrypted form in the system registry, which
the necessary (as reccommended by MM) measures in
correcting, which in turn appears to have caused my server to die.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 19:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I don't know
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 18:05 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
Dealey wrote:
I thought all the db drivers were 3rd party ... Has
Allaire / MM
actually
developed db drivers?
Er, no, I just meant that the JDBC drivers about which
people are
complaining were not written by us... which means that
Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Can we help? (was RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready
to dump CF!)
I personally think.. alot of the problems are due to making CFMX
very backward compatible with older versions of CF.
Why did
: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Lee,
I appreciate your need TODAY, and I sympathize with your plight. However,
there are a couple of things to keep in mind...This problem didn't just crop
up today, and from the sound
Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter
I'd have to second that, Vernon. I would have first'd it, but he beat
me to it! grin
| -Original Message-
| From: Tony Carcieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:22 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF
]
-Original Message-
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter -
About ready to dump CF!
Importance: High
Sorry Stacy I am least bothered with Flash and whatever
In the hope of finding a portion of the problem here, we've been
monitoring the server via Perf Monitor, and I've just added a counter
for CFMX's Running Requests. I've noticed that at this moment, it
shows a steady number of running requests, which seems quite odd. I
would think they would die
as text, and paste it to an email.. deleting what you don't want
shared.
| -Original Message-
| From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:34 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Can we help? (was RE: LONG time CF Supporter -
| About ready to dump
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888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter -
About
ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 18:05 US
Lee - I'm seeing this too (oddly). Any clues? On CF 5 server this number
bumps up and down - often at 0 - even on a busy server.
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter
Subject: Re: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
I'd be really hesitant to assume that anyone who can afford to
implement
CFMX can afford to implement WebSphere... I haven't looked at it
recently,
but I remember someone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:51 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Lee - I'm seeing this too (oddly). Any clues? On CF 5 server
| this number bumps up and down - often at 0 - even on a busy server
was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
I'd be really hesitant to assume that anyone who can afford to
implement
CFMX can afford to implement WebSphere... I haven't looked at it
recently,
but I remember someone mentioning a figure to me that was well over
10x
the
cost
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
So you're advocating a minimum 140% increase in the cost of the server
as
a
fix
://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC
Drivers was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
So you're
]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
umm... I can reimplement CF 5 in about 15 minutes... How about you?
I don't know how you break out developer time
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC
Drivers was
Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
umm... I can reimplement CF 5 in about 15 minutes... How
about you?
I don't know how you break out developer time in your
costs, but I can
imagine spending developer time
Wasn't the original conversation about apps migrating from CF 5 and
people
having problems with the upgrade? ... If you have apps that started on
CF
MX
then that's another story, but again, I'd say that if problems with MX
are
a
major issue for you now ( i.e. they're costing you money you
a hosted server then you're ok.
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:32:30 -0400
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
Message-ID: 00b301c26ffc$e622fe90$6401a8c0@FREEWILL
(snip
are using CF5, so if you can use
a hosted server then you're ok.
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:32:30 -0400
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
Message-ID: 00b301c26ffc$e622fe90
implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re:
LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CF 5 is available from our online store:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/general/#p
800
-Vern
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
taking CF support away from our customers, and selling those accounts
that use it. With the consistant rash of unresponsive CF service
problems (that require many restarts of IIS/CF -- and then finally a
complete server restart),
is this CFMX?
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 14:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
taking CF support away from our customers
Lee,
I know the feeling. I'm going through the same problems right now -
Currently investigating everything and due to post my findings later today
(they aint amounting to much at the moment unfortunately).
Dave
See thread: CFMX - I've never seen anything so unstable in my life
-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 14:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
taking CF support away from our customers, and selling those accounts
that use
-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 14:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
taking CF support away from our customers, and selling those accounts
that use
Yup... And (per my post) they've asked for support $ to figure it out.
| I'm assuming you've made your problems known to Macromedia?
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Yup
| is this CFMX?
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: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yup... And (per my post) they've asked for support $ to figure it out.
| I'm assuming you've made your problems known to Macromedia?
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I should also add. Someone once told me some good advice, always wait
for the first dot release. Come to think of it , I'm sure CF has had
problems like this in the past was it 4.0 to 4.5 I cant remember but I
remember one of the releases was a nightmare.
Yes this is good advice and I personally
I've SCOURED the KB's. Left messages in all the forums, lists, etc.
All are the same patches/fixes.. None of them work.
So write a monitor script that restarts it when CF pages stop working...
Real web farms reboot their IIS servers at least weekly, so I don't see that
you have any particular
Yup.. I know I'm not the only one. This is something that either wasn't
thoroughly tested, is due to a major change in technology-base, simply
occuring in too few systems... SOMETHING. I'm not sure why this isn't
been directly addressed and squashed. But it's not. And I refuse to go
to the
Hmmm
I haven't ported any of our clients over to CFMX yet, and won't be for the
moment.
Will
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 14:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yup
| is this CFMX
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I've SCOURED the KB's. Left messages in all the forums, lists, etc.
All are the same patches/fixes.. None of them work.
So write a monitor script that restarts it when CF pages stop
working...
Real web farms reboot
!!!
And they want MORE MONEY TO FIX IT???!!!
So you can see, it's a bit of a bad position I'm in.
| -Original Message-
| From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:38 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yup.. I know I'm
Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yup.. I know I'm not the only one
At 06:20 AM 08/10/02 -0700, Lee Fuller wrote:
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
Why not just go back to CF5 for the time being?
T
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| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:42 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Real web farms don't cover up their problems with scheduled restarts.
|
| Matt
I, too, thought it best to wait for dot-one before a complete roll-out.
And that's what we've done.
And I totally agree with your statement below.
|
| The problems being faced by CFMX are very different due in
| part to CFMX itself being a ground up rewrite on a new Java platform.
notifications when all else fails.
| -Original Message-
| From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:40 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| I've SCOURED the KB's. Left messages in all the forums
Real web farms don't cover up their problems with scheduled restarts.
s/Their/Microsoft's/
And they do. Often at their customers requests.
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
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| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:47 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| The problem as I see it is one of communication. It doesn't
| seem like Macromedia is acknowledging the problems people are
| having in the field with CFMX. Nor
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yes. But that's really not the point.
I know you're just a messenger Jesse.. So I'm not trying to slay you.
But understand that many of us who support CF had
-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yes. But that's really not the point.
I know you're just a messenger Jesse.. So I'm not trying to slay you.
But understand
-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Real web farms don't cover up their problems with scheduled
restarts.
s/Their/Microsoft's/
And they do. Often at their customers requests.
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
The fact is, no software is fool-proof. I was in CFQA
and Development helping to work on CFMX, I know we ran this
puppy through every little test you could think of.
As another voice from the 'inside', I just want to ditto this. QA during
the MX dev cycle was vicious. I hated them.
, October 08, 2002 9:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
The problem as I see it is one of communication. It doesn't seem like
Macromedia is acknowledging the problems people are having in the field
with CFMX. Nor are they telling us if they are even working
Lee Fuller wrote:
Yup... And (per my post) they've asked for support $ to figure it out.
Don't worry about that too much. You will only be charged if it is your
problem (and even then the amount is fairly reasonable), not if it is a
bug. I have opened my share of incidents, but I have never
While Matt just sent a message decrying public communication
between
those of us at Macromedia and the community, how can we possibly work
on
bugs and issues that are reduced to stuff is broken.
The above is right in line with what I am talking about. Matt complains
about communication
Before anyone else comments, yes, this probably should be a cf-community
topic now.
Jesse,
I certainly see your point, however, as a developer and small business
owner, there are financial concerns that a large organization like MM
wouldn't understand. My business _depends_ on my customers being
: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Anyone here subscribe to Bugtraq?
I'm thinking there may be a legitimate need for a dedicated CF-Bugtraq
type
list, to document issues / bugs with CFMX separate from 'how do I do
this'
discussions.
It is important to know what other people
.
James Johnson
www.smb-studios.com
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Lee-
While I can understand your predicament, and I will pass
Anyone here subscribe to Bugtraq?
Aye.
IMHO, it should be a capital offence to run a server without being :-)
I'm thinking there may be a legitimate need for a dedicated
CF-Bugtraq type
list, to document issues / bugs with CFMX separate from 'how do I do this'
discussions.
I think BugTraq
I might add that real web farms don't use Microsoft to begin with.
Well, there is that, but some of us don't get to choose.
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
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In case this was missed from the other thread CFMX - I've never seen
anything so unstable, here are my findings, or rather, here is what led me
to my problem(s).
Note: This is a development machine
Amalgamating two similar threads.
OK here is the sequence of events which have led me to where I
Tom I think your sig' is Ironic ;-)
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
but If you were you could help fix it!
Kola
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Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I should also add. Someone once told me some good advice, always wait
for the first dot release. Come to think of it , I'm sure
ahead of time.
Just my 2c.
Josh
-Original Message-
From: James Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse, what Lee is trying to say is that MM should help him
-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Why not downgrade to 5 and put CFMX into development until you are sure it's
rock solid. I have absolutely
Tom I think your sig' is Ironic ;-)
I think work would get upset if I continued it with ... but it helps :-)
Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion
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Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
While Matt just sent a message decrying public communication
between
those of us at Macromedia and the community, how
]
Macromedia Server Development
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Yes. But that's really not the point.
I know you're just a messenger
LOL.. So true!
| -Original Message-
| From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:51 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Tom I think your sig' is Ironic ;-)
|
| You don't have to be a mad
to do this.
| -Original Message-
| From: Scott Brader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:28 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Before anyone else comments, yes, this probably should be a
| cf-community topic
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
But Matt, you skipped over
See Jesse,
Many of us such as Lee and myself have been working with CF for a long long
time and we love the product, etc etc.
When we run into problems, we take every step we can think of to try and
resolve the issue, not just for our own benefit, but for the benefit of the
product itself. When
: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
That is all great in theory, but you need to take into account the user
in question. While some of the people complaining may be the only ones
who have mentioned the problem so far
these problems with MM is
| very discouraging.
|
| James Johnson
| www.smb-studios.com
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:05 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Lee
| -Original Message-
| From: Scott Brader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:28 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Before anyone else comments, yes, this probably should be a
| cf-community topic now.
|
| Jesse
: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse, what Lee is trying to say is that MM should help him with the
problem, without him having to pay extra for tech support.
He is *not* paying if the problem is with CFMX
, October 08, 2002 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
How do you sort the white noise from the actual data Matt except by
giving
users with issues a clearly defined avenue to getting their issues
addressed?
Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED
get back
to the buick with the shaky wheels :)
-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
No offense Josh...
But I KNEW someone was going to pipe
: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse,
Pardon me for asking but... how does MM handle a situation where something
worked correctly on CF 5, but now is failing
. So perhaps some could use this a temporary fix
until the JDBC driver problems have been ironed out?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 16:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse
is nice, that's not how 99% of issues get reported and resolved.
Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development
-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter
: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
You should ping a person in Tech support about that.
I view that as an installation/configuration issue, and *I* personally
wouldn't charge.
But I'm not in tech support. I'm in development. YMMV
Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server
, October 08, 2002 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
snip
I'll BE the guinea pig.. No problem! But I need the total
responsiveness from MM to make it work. And I'm completely willing
to
share my experiences and solutions with the CF
Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
How do you sort the white noise from the actual data Matt except by
giving
users with issues a clearly defined avenue to getting their issues
taken.. And understood. grin
| -Original Message-
| From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:38 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
|
|
| Lee,
|
| Ok... I snicker at the occasional Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse,
Pardon me for asking but... how does MM handle a situation where something
worked correctly on CF 5, but now is failing on CFMX? Is that CFMX? Or do
I pay to have MM
AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Just a wee note on the JDBC problem.
In case some of you may have missed it in amongst the other info in my
earlier posts. I've opted to use the odbc sockets instead for MS SQL
datasources.
I haven't been able
indeed.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I might add that real web farms don't use Microsoft to begin with.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jessie, I don't think you are getting it. We all understand what
Macromedia's policy on this issue is. We just disagree with it and chose
not to follow it. For some (like Lee) that may
-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Then you are simply using the JDBC to ODBC bridge. CFMX requires the use
of JDBC.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson
Debbie,
Thanks for the clarification.
-mk
-Original Message-
From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
If it's changed from CF5 and it's NOT documented (manuals
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| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:34 AM
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| You should ping a person in Tech support about that.
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| I view that as an installation/configuration issue, and *I*
| personally wouldn't charge
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| -Original Message-
| From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:36 AM
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| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
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| I think that something is being missed. If the bug is
| with CFMX, you do not pay. That simple
Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering
taking CF support away from our customers, and selling those accounts
that use it. With the consistant rash of unresponsive CF service
problems (that require many restarts
In all truth, Jesse is right. These lists, while useful to Macromedia in saving and
making money, are totally unofficial. They are not supported by, or connected in any
way, to Macromedia, other than them recognizing the lists as a resource and putting
people on it. The very fact that
-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Jesse,
Pardon me for asking but... how does MM handle a situation
where
back to the drawing board then. I wonder why the NT
authentication support hasnt been included in the
JDBC driver though? I know this has nothing to do
with MM. Just curious.
The latest version of the DataDirect drivers offer that functionality:
A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 October 2002 17:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Debbie,
Thanks for the clarification.
-mk
-Original Message-
From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002
Well put.
| You can't and I don't expect to you. What I expect a response
| on is when I provide a thorough description of the problem
| including test code to reproduce it. And I don't mean a
| response simply agreeing that I found a bug. I am talking
| about feedback as to when the
from calling up good-ol' MM.
| -Original Message-
| From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:36 AM
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| Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
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| I think that something is being missed. If the bug
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