Belated thanks to both you and Dave.
-Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vviehe;macromedia.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Pro v Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How
Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion
and over.
/rant
Trey Rouse
-Original Message-
From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb;outofchaos.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Pro v Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How
Good
is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
At 05:04 PM 10/16/02 -0700
curious how people can learn
about how it works without shelling out thousands of dollars.
-Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwatts;figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Pro v Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How
Good
So has nobody asked about or wanted to do this before?
It seems reasonable to want to see how the configuration
of a cluster might behave before deploying or recommending
it. How do others do this? Is it just a buy and hope it
works situation?
I'm not trying to pick another fight, I'm
the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Just for the record, my
-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold
]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
| Interesting to find some of this out. We are in a position that I think
| many organizations are in. We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
| over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise
-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Interesting to find some of this out. We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in. We've been priamrilly a CF house
Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Interesting to find some of this out. We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in. We've been priamrilly a CF house
: Vernon Viehe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
Server version upgrade
, October 16, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Sorry to that you see it that way. Perhaps we can change your mind.
The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale
across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the
biggest
Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255
Making the NET Work
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I can just throw ColdFusion out
At 09:13 AM 10/16/02 -0500, Fregas wrote:
. If you are in fact listening to us Macromedia,
Ahem. Ha. Ah ha ha. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.
Phew!
Dream on.
Macromedia is perfect. They don't need to listen to customers. They
know what is good for us.
They will, however, on occasion
, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:35:44 -0700
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Kris, Jeff said this better than I but I can't see how putting
everything
into Microsoft and .NET gives you the ability
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
What's the IBM push of CF you make reference of??
I assume that deal with Websphere running with CF?
Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http
, 2002 4:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is around
12 months, according to those
running j2ee, the fact that cf is more rapid
begins not to hold as much water.
Trey Rouse
Rice University
-Original Message-
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
around
12 months, according to those I've discussed
- Making the NET work
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I mostly agree with your position that CFML is a more rapid development
tool than j2ee
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I would challenge your 'Deployed' numbers.
Your 'Facts' don't hold much water with me.
More than 10,000 organizations
-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF that
can never be viewed
: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF that
can never be viewed from the public Internet. We
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for .cfm got 25.5
million results, .asp 89.2 million, .php 106 million, .jsp 13.6
million.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
the NET work
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I would challenge your 'Deployed' numbers.
Your 'Facts' don't hold much water with me.
More
]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for .cfm got
25.5
million results, .asp 89.2 million, .php 106 million, .jsp 13.6
million.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:16:54 -0500
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
THat still isn't HARD FACTS.
It could mean 4 ASP servers with 89.2 million asp pages in their
apps, and
20 million CF servers with X CFM pages in their apps combined. I
know
Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF that
can never be viewed from
been
on the intranet - not the public web.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for .cfm got 25.5
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people all my work is behind
someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy
]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people all my
work is behind
someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy
would
as a reference g.
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people all my work
As the nun said in the fabric store, ..that would make a good habit.
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Yea, I
Miller
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being
: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market
for
ColdFusion?
Yea, I should get into the habbit of taking screen captures. :)
Isaac,
In fact, I heard Ben F. say at a conference last fall that most CF
is
deployed inside the company firewall.
-mk
P.S. - You'll have
yourself sued.
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Maybe I take the wrong approach, but I keep the code and test data and
run
, 2002 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I mostly agree with your position that CFML is a more rapid development
tool than j2ee. However, I think when you take a longer view and
consider performance, security factors, availability of work force, and
most
-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for .cfm got
25.5
million results, .asp 89.2 million, .php 106 million, .jsp 13.6
million.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
Webapper
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
Damned integrity... It's a curse. :)
Yeah, I hear that can be tough to live with. 8^)
--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel: (301) 625-9191
Fax: (301) 933-3651
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
~|
Archives:
This whole 'Hidden CF Factor' sort of reminds me of 'Wagner's music is
better than it sounds' or perhaps 'Pay no attention to the man behind the
curtain.'
What hogwash! Basic statistics tell us that there is probably as much
'hidden' (read: 'intranet') ASP, PHP, and J2EE, proportionately, as
to boot.
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
This whole 'Hidden CF Factor' sort of reminds me of 'Wagner's music
at your own risk.
-Original Message-
From: Weaver, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market
for
ColdFusion?
Yeah, this is a tough issue. Personally, I can't really
: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Huh?! That makes no sense whatsoever. How does being eminently suitable
for high-volume sites in any way negate the reality that it's widely
used for internal applications? And, of course, internal apps are
frequently far
, October 16, 2002 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Huh?! That makes no sense whatsoever. How does being eminently suitable
for high-volume sites in any way negate the reality that it's widely
used for internal applications
then dont read it :)
- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:37 PM
Subject: PLEASE END THIS (RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the
Job Market for ColdFusion?)
mike d.
time for this to move
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PLEASE END THIS (RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good
is the Job Market for ColdFusion?)
then dont read it :)
- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday
: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Huh?! That makes no sense whatsoever. How does being eminently suitable
for high-volume sites in any way negate the reality that it's widely
used for internal
What hogwash! Basic statistics tell us that there is
probably as much 'hidden' (read: 'intranet') ASP, PHP,
and J2EE, proportionately, as their is CF.
While I agree with your primary premise, I disagree with your conclusion. In
my experience, CF has tended to be heavily used in internal
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people all my work is
behind
someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it
be
impressive! ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume
at .NET!).
So be patient and prepare your MX skills...
(message : learn Flash MX)
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : mercredi 16 octobre 2002 21:53
À : CF-Talk
Objet : Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion
At 03:31 PM 10/16/02 -0500, Trey Rouse wrote:
Helps to live in a state with very strong 'right to work' laws.
Eh? 'Right to work' laws do not give you the right to use other
people's property without their consent.
Suppose you wrote a banking application for the green screen
in RPG for the Bank
I hate that Greg is right, but he is right none-the-less.
-Original Message-
From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
At 03:31 PM 10/16/02
At 04:49 PM 10/16/02 -0400, Vernon Viehe wrote:
A Yankee Group report from Oct 2001 (AFAIK it's the latest on the topic)
lists CF as the #2 platform used in IT infrastructure/intranet applications.
Well, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics...
As for increasing the attractiveness of
A Yankee Group report from Oct 2001 (AFAIK it's the latest on the topic)
lists CF as the #2 platform used in IT infrastructure/intranet
applications.
Well, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics...
And then there's the truth...which that report may reflect or may not. In
any event, what
: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Isaac,
Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own server
with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this with half a dozen
apps.
Greg
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 16:28 US/Pacific, Greg Bullough wrote:
In doing so, you have not only hobbled a lot of development paradigms
where
people develop on Pro and deploy on Enterprise Clusters
Given that the Developer Edition is effectively a dual-IP Enterprise
version, I'm not
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Because the application does not belong to Isaac, it belongs to
his previous
employer.
--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Isaac,
Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own server
with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this with half a dozen
apps.
Greg
-Original Message
-Talk
Subject: Pro v Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good
is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 16:28 US/Pacific, Greg Bullough wrote:
In doing so, you have not only hobbled a lot of development paradigms
where
people develop on Pro and deploy
Enterprise? (was: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good
is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
20 developers all happily doing CF development. We currently have v4.5 ENT,
v5 ENT and MX servers in the mix, mostly on Windows with 1 or 2 Solaris
thrown in for fun. Debating whether to take v4.5 apps to v5
PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people all my work is
behind
someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it
be
impressive! ... wtf? How am I supposed to write
was RE: How Good is the
Job Market for
ColdFusion?
Isaac,
Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own
server
with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this
with half a dozen
apps.
Greg
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL
it ;)
love ya!
tw
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PLEASE END THIS (RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good
is the Job Market for ColdFusion?)
Tony, I have to agree with the off topic
Being in Europe (GMT +1 time zone), the traffic on this list is very lean
during my work day (well, the mail starts popping in in the late
afternoon), but in the morning my CF-Talk folder sports some 250 mails.
And it is all neatly sorted by subject, and quick to scan (and you can
follow a full
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Well, heres my 2 cents. When the economy was booming I noticed about
a 1
to 5 ratio (roughly 100 CF 500 ASP) for coldfusion to ASP jobs on
monster.com
the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:45:38 -0500
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I have to agree with Casey on this one
At least you're not bitter.
-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
It's an economy and burnout thing...
I mean how many people need software built
Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every cent.
( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web
Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with
-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
At least you're not bitter.
-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
It's an economy
:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I have to agree with Casey on this one. There are practically no CF
postings in the Texas market. Dallas has by far the most of any other
regional market.
I'm no longer a developer and have moved up past the architect
-0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
cent.
( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All
]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
At least you're not bitter.
-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE
-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
actually totally not bitter..
I use to sit around and laugh at the insanity...
Herman Miller pay day baby... those little funny cars
be accomplished by sitting in an $800 chair - or so I
hear.
-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
actually totally not bitter..
I use to sit around
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Paris Lundis wrote:
actually totally not bitter..
I use to sit around and laugh at the insanity...
Herman Miller pay day baby... those little funny cars... the denial...
Oh the jet set wannabes :) she likes, ahh you money ...
I was always the black cloud of death
the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
cent
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
cent.
( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
At least
that the best technology wins.
Craig
- Original Message -
From: Kreig Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Hate to burst your bubble but...
..the resale value
The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is around 12 months,
according to those I've discussed it with. We're really only about halfway through the
cycle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I have to agree with Casey on this one. There are practically no CF
postings in the Texas market
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Sorry you feel that way, Trey. We hope you'll reconsider. IBM
is now selling and supporting ColdFusion MX worldwide. We think
the momentum is building in the right direction.
All: Are there others out there who feel
. Director, Macromedia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
I have to agree with Casey on this one. There are practically no CF
postings
PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Jeff,
You might want to start a new thread on this. I only caught it by
accident.
Personally I only use Oracle's developer license to support my own
retail product development, so CFMX Enterprise dev edition is good
enough
That's what I get for coming into the middle of the conversation :D
--Matt--
-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Just to clear the air...the posts
This should be on cf-jobs-talk
However, my experience is the exact opposite. Based on the last year,
there seem to be more and more openings coming into light.
At 06:17 AM 10/12/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hi All,
How good is the job market for ColdFusion expertise?
It seems the number of
Given the state of the economy in general and the tech industry and
start-ups in particular, I'd say that it's not CF that is doing badly. Even
the rent-a-programmer-type sites aren't seeing the traffic they used to.
I know that Local, State, Federal governments, not to mention non-profits,
You should be asking how good is the job market for Web Development in
the US in general,
rather than focusing on CF, and that might give you a better answer.
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: siva girumala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Hi All,
How good is the job market for ColdFusion
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