Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread markus.spring
Am 2014-11-20 14:54, schrieb Bill McCormick:
 Can someone just reply to this post so I can know that everything is
 working?

It is, Bill.

It's just that C::A is working like a charm, so nobody has any 
questions ;)

Markus

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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Richard Jones
The list is still active but I don't know if anyone's still developing 
in CGI::App. I have a legacy app that I maintain, but it seems that more 
modern frameworks like Dancer(2), Mojolicious, Web::Simple and Catalyst 
have taken over. Ron also updated CGI::App to CGI::Snapp last year but 
I'm not sure where he is with that.

It was an interesting question about putting form elements into a tt, 
but I don't know the answer. I do it manually. If there *is* an answer 
it's probably not CGI::App specific, but I'd be happy to stand 
corrected. There are many helpers you could use to semi-automate the 
form (CGI::FormBuilder, FormFu, etc), but I've never found one I like. 
Anyone know of anything useful?

On 20/11/2014 13:54, Bill McCormick wrote:
 Can someone just reply to this post so I can know that everything is
 working?

 Thanks!

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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Richard Jones
On 20/11/2014 14:17, markus.spring wrote:

 It is, Bill.

 It's just that C::A is working like a charm, so nobody has any
 questions ;)

True enough, but I don't think it's attracting many new users or I'd 
expect more activity on here. Compare to Dancer list, with over 500 msgs 
in 2014.

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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Bill McCormick
OK .. It's been some time since I've had to to much Perl/web 
development. I last worked with C:A over 10 years ago, so I'm just 
coming back to what I know. Sounds like I need to take a look at Dancer.


  What is Dancer?

Dancer is a simple but powerful web application framework for Perl.


  Key features

  * *Dead Simple* - Intuitive, minimalist and very expressive syntax.
  * *Flexible* - PSGI support, plugins and modular design allow for
strong scalability.
  * *Few dependencies* - Dancer depends on as few CPAN modules as
possible making it easy to install.



On 11/20/2014 8:29 AM, Richard Jones wrote:
 On 20/11/2014 14:17, markus.spring wrote:

 It is, Bill.

 It's just that C::A is working like a charm, so nobody has any
 questions ;)

 True enough, but I don't think it's attracting many new users or I'd
 expect more activity on here. Compare to Dancer list, with over 500 msgs
 in 2014.



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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Richard Jones [20/11/2014 14:17] :

 The list is still active but I don't know if anyone's still developing 
 in CGI::App.

What has me worried is stuff like
https://github.com/markstos/CGI--Application/pull/15

I have no issues with applications being deemed feature-full and the
last release being several years old but I do expect security fixes
to be applied promptly with a release soon after.

Emmanuel

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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Richard Jones
On 20/11/2014 14:35, Bill McCormick wrote:
 OK .. It's been some time since I've had to to much Perl/web
 development. I last worked with C:A over 10 years ago, so I'm just
 coming back to what I know. Sounds like I need to take a look at Dancer.

Yeah, Dancer2 is great, as is Web::Simple if you just want a quick and 
easy way to build simple web applications. Catalyst is recommended for 
heavy-lifting. Dancer2 somewhere in between, though lots of overlap. Not 
tried Mojo or CGI::Snapp to any extent myself so can't comment. CGI::App 
still works of course but is way behind the curve now.

-- 
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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread jerry
On 11/20/2014 06:47, Richard Jones wrote:
 On 20/11/2014 14:35, Bill McCormick wrote:
 OK .. It's been some time since I've had to to much Perl/web
 development. I last worked with C:A over 10 years ago, so I'm just
 coming back to what I know. Sounds like I need to take a look at 
 Dancer.

 Yeah, Dancer2 is great, as is Web::Simple if you just want a quick 
 and
 easy way to build simple web applications. Catalyst is recommended 
 for
 heavy-lifting. Dancer2 somewhere in between, though lots of overlap. 
 Not
 tried Mojo or CGI::Snapp to any extent myself so can't comment. 
 CGI::App
 still works of course but is way behind the curve now.

*** That put me in a quandary.  In 2006, I started building an 
application
to help with my business.  At first, I just used CGI.pm, and built my 
own
state-driven system for moving from page to page.  Then I discovered 
frameworks.
I tried Catalyst, and it was very slick when you used their canned 
pages.
But there was a little too much magic for my taste.  I wasn't having 
a
good feel for what was going on behind the curtain.  And as easy as it 
was
to set up a canned web page, that's how hard it was to do something 
different.
Especially debugging.  Big learning curve.

So I settled on cgiapp. Just enough magic to make my life easy.  My 
app
has grown quite large, and it would be painful to recode it.

  - Jerry Kaidor ( je...@tr2.com )


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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread Thomas Krichel
  jerry writes

 So I settled on cgiapp. Just enough magic to make my life easy.

  I am in a similar case. I use FCCI with cgiapp. I have a simple URL,
  get params from POST, look up some data, create XML and then
  transform it with XSLT to get back to the client, and write some
  XML to disk. I don't use a database, just disk files.

  I have one application under mod_perl that I want to port to cgiapp
  + FCGI, to get independent of running a separate appache as I don't
  want to use apaches's UID, my application write data to the disk.

  Is there anything you guys recommend for this type of application?

-- 

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
  skype:thomaskrichel

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Re: [cgiapp] is this list still active?

2014-11-20 Thread jerry
On 11/20/2014 13:43, Thomas Krichel wrote:
 jerry writes

 So I settled on cgiapp. Just enough magic to make my life easy.

   I am in a similar case. I use FCCI with cgiapp. I have a simple 
 URL,
   get params from POST, look up some data, create XML and then
   transform it with XSLT to get back to the client, and write some
   XML to disk. I don't use a database, just disk files.

*** Mine is a bit fancier than that.  It uses mysql.  It does 
bookkeeping.
It creates multi-page PDFs with master documents and stored data.  It 
does
payroll.  Many of the screens now have in-place editing with 
client-side
javascript.  It has its own system of multiple users with passwords and
individual permissions.  It's been a fun and useful platform to use, 
tune, and
expand.

But CGI::Application is still at the core of it all.

 - Jerry Kaidor









   I have one application under mod_perl that I want to port to cgiapp
   + FCGI, to get independent of running a separate appache as I don't
   want to use apaches's UID, my application write data to the disk.

   Is there anything you guys recommend for this type of application?

 --

   Cheers,

   Thomas Krichel  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
   skype:thomaskrichel

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