Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2011-01-06 Thread Hansen, Ulrich Vestergaard B. (E R WP EN ES 4 2)
. oktober 2009 01:39 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing? If you consider support contracts as insurance then it sounds crazy to pay for the years you were not insured. An example is fire insurance: If you buy fire insurance 10 years after a home is built, State Farm

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-10-01 Thread Adam Armstrong
e ninja wrote: Nick, * inline...* On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie wrote: On 29/09/2009 19:20, e ninja wrote: No it is not right. 1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug fixes. See

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-10-01 Thread Judah Scott
If you consider support contracts as insurance then it sounds crazy to pay for the years you were not insured. An example is fire insurance: If you buy fire insurance 10 years after a home is built, State Farm isn't going to charge you for the first 10 years. A quick inspection to verify that

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-30 Thread e ninja
Nick, * inline...* On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie wrote: On 29/09/2009 19:20, e ninja wrote: No it is not right. 1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3 That is an

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Steven Saner
Garry wrote: Richey wrote: is buggy for whatever it is they are trying to do. They contacted their rep and the rep said Cisco wants them to pay for the last 5 years of smartnet plus however many going forward in order to get the image. They were quoted over $25k just to upgrade an image.

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Steven, ssa...@pantheranet.com (Steven Saner) wrote: for the time in between, why not go software-only SMARTnet? It even contains config/TAC support (if ever required), full access to the download area, and it's something like half of the regular SNT ... plus, there's no logical reason to

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:56:26AM -0500, Steven Saner wrote: Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? Maybe they were pulling my leg? It does exist, CON-SW-..., but not listed in the

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Will Hargrave
Steven Saner wrote: Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? Maybe they were pulling my leg? 'SASU' - Software Application Support plus Upgrades But last time I priced it up I got the

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Justin Shore
Steven Saner wrote: Is this really available? I was asking a SmartNet rep about this once and was led to believe this isn't an option. Maybe it wasn't then and is now? Maybe they were pulling my leg? Sure. For a 7206VXR the part number is SP-SW-7206VXRN. However I don't generally recommend

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:29:54AM -0500, Justin Shore wrote: Sure. For a 7206VXR the part number is SP-SW-7206VXRN. However I don't generally recommend people buy it. The software-only version doesn't come with any sort of hardware replacement. For a wee bit more you can get the

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread e ninja
Richey, No it is not right. 1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3 2. Forcing people to pay for a service they haven't used is extortionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion- a criminal act - seek

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Justin Shore
Gert Doering wrote: How do people get these part numbers? For our smartnet contracts, getting the right numbers for various 6500+sup720 combinations seems to be nearly impossible. Gert, Two ways that I can think of. The first is from the Global Price List on cisco.com:

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 29/09/2009 19:20, e ninja wrote: No it is not right. 1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for bug fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3 That is an interesting wish-list. Have you considered what it would do to the price of software if

[c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Richey
One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right. I don't much about smartnet but I told him I knew where to ask about this.He said they let their initial smartnet contract expire about 5 years ago because they never used the support and management couldn't justify the cost.

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Matthew Huff
-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Richey Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:55 PM To: 'Cisco-NSP Mailing List' Subject: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing? One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right. I don't much about smartnet but I told

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Jared Mauch
' Subject: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing? One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right. I don't much about smartnet but I told him I knew where to ask about this.He said they let their initial smartnet contract expire about 5 years ago because they never used the support

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Scott Granados
List' cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing? One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right. I don't much about smartnet but I told him I knew where to ask about this.He said they let their initial smartnet

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Justin Krejci
Mailing List' Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing? Look for a PSIRT issue against the image and get a 'free' upgrade? - Jared On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Matthew Huff wrote: It's not unusual practice in the industry, but usually Cisco will require a recertification fee instead

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
Richey wrote: One of my customers called me today to ask me if this sounds right. I don't much about smartnet but I told him I knew where to ask about this.He said they let their initial smartnet contract expire about 5 years ago because they never used the support and management couldn't

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Judah Scott
Why don't you tell them that they couldn't sell you at 1x price for the last 5 years, what makes them think you are going to pay 5x that price. It's simple economics you obviously value the service at 1/5 the price ... On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2009-09-28 Thread Garry
Richey wrote: is buggy for whatever it is they are trying to do. They contacted their rep and the rep said Cisco wants them to pay for the last 5 years of smartnet plus however many going forward in order to get the image. They were quoted over $25k just to upgrade an image. The part