Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-31 Thread Sean McBride
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:02:36 -0700, Kyle Sluder said: As of November, all applications submitted to the App store must be sandboxed and signed. Not too difficult to forecast the future here. Will it be for an application to run on a Mac it will need to sandboxed and signed ? We all know that

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-31 Thread Gideon King
sandboxing clearly hasn't been nailed down yet. It's also worth remembering that the Mac App Store is not required either, unlike on iOS devices. If you can't or don't want to sandbox, you can distribute elsewhere. Yes, but the App store is a huge publicity opportunity and

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-31 Thread Mark Munz
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote: It's also worth remembering that the Mac App Store is not required either, unlike on iOS devices.  If you can't or don't want to sandbox, you can distribute elsewhere. It's also worth noting that if you want to use

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-31 Thread Mark Munz
Oops, I mixed up entitlements and sandboxing. Sandboxing is a subset of entitlements and it is possible to enable entitlements for iCloud without enabling sandboxing for the app. I thought I recalled engineers referencing iCloud the sandbox together during WWDC, but I must have been mistaken. I

Future for Mac applications

2011-10-29 Thread James Merkel
As of November, all applications submitted to the App store must be sandboxed and signed. Not too difficult to forecast the future here. Will it be for an application to run on a Mac it will need to sandboxed and signed ? Jim Merkel ___ Cocoa-dev

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Oct 29, 2011, at 9:31 AM, James Merkel jmerk...@mac.com wrote: As of November, all applications submitted to the App store must be sandboxed and signed. Not too difficult to forecast the future here. Will it be for an application to run on a Mac it will need to sandboxed and signed ?

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-29 Thread Gregory Casamento
This subject came up about a year ago when Lion was first announced here was the reaction to it: http://9to5mac.com/2010/04/25/jobs-mac-store-negative-ghostrider-593035053/ While Steve is now no longer with us. I very much doubt that Apple would shoot itself in the foot in this manner. GC

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-29 Thread James Merkel
Kyle Sluder kyle.slu...@gmail.com wrote: We all know that Apple will not comment on future plans. It might not be a good idea to encourage rampant speculation on this list. But as it stands right now, it's worth remembering that code signing and sandboxing are orthogonal technologies, and

Re: Future for Mac applications

2011-10-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:04 PM, James Merkel jmerk...@mac.com wrote: Kyle Sluder kyle.slu...@gmail.com wrote: We all know that Apple will not comment on future plans. It might not be a good idea to encourage rampant speculation on this list. But as it stands right now, it's worth