Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-30 Thread Stephan Michels
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote, On 28/06/2003 19.19: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... I'm really confused about this SWT thing. On my computer Eclipse feels slower than JBuilder. And I still have to understand what makes SWT so compelling and

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-30 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
snip I have used Swing quite a lot, and as you know I even gave a shot at making a WYSIWYG editor for XML. I had to debug the Editor. Which xml namespaces were you trying to do this for? xhtml, svg, mathml? I've tried numerous times to extend the javax.swing.text.*.* packages and had

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Roger I Martin PhD wrote, On 30/06/2003 14.57: snip I have used Swing quite a lot, and as you know I even gave a shot at making a WYSIWYG editor for XML. I had to debug the Editor. Which xml namespaces were you trying to do this for? xhtml, svg, mathml? DocumentDTD, basically like xhtml I've

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 6/28/03 4:43 PM Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The fact is that SWT is crap. Total crap. Pff, SWT is a thin layer on top of the operating system, everything else is native, therefore optimized and normally hardware accelerated (today's GPUs are gigaflop machines with gigabyte/sec video mem2mem

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 29/06/2003 19.09: on 6/28/03 4:43 PM Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The fact is that SWT is crap. Total crap. This is a bit too much taken out of context I reckon ;-) It was made to try and show that saying that something is crap or not, things don't go far. Pff, SWT is

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-28 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Christopher Oliver wrote, On 28/06/2003 19.19: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... I'm really confused about this SWT thing. On my computer Eclipse feels slower than JBuilder. And I still have to understand what makes SWT so compelling and AWT so dreaded. Check out JGoodies' fake eclipse LF using

Re: Java Language Advocacy (was Re: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-26 Thread Berin Loritsch
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 6/26/03 12:01 PM Christopher Oliver wrote: Another aspect not always noticed is the speed of the compiler. Because Java compilers don't perform any compile-time optimizations, they are significantly faster than C++ compilers. This is very important when dealing