Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-15 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Thu, 15 May 2014, Jodi Schneider wrote: elm++ people still use elm? I'm personally using the 'patterns-filters2' rule in alpine for managing my mailing lists. I've considered switching to mutt, but I haven't used elm or its derivatives in over a decade. (elm didn't have good MIME

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-15 Thread David Friggens
elm++ elm didn't have good MIME support I have to agree. I have scoured YouTube and found no videos of Eric Lease Morgan silently trapped in a glass box... :-)

Re: [CODE4LIB] Add job as a listserv topic (was Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs)

2014-05-12 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On May 8, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com wrote: Eric -- are you still the list owner? j...@code4lib.org already uses Job: as a prefix -- so I would suggest adding Job as a topic, setting Default-Topics= Job,OTHER (unless all-caps is requisite?) If this works,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-11 Thread Fitchett, Deborah
. To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs Obviously, we must now task someone in CODE4LIB with writing a Python script to convert New Zealand English to International English. Or, I guess we could solve this on the user side with a sarcasm

Re: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-11 Thread Stuart Yeates
was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I can't help with the Python, but a test case for the script would obviously be You know I can't subscribe to your ghost jobs list. Deborah -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Susan Kane Sent

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs

2014-05-09 Thread Graham Triggs
On 8 May 2014 18:08, Scott Fisher scott.fis...@ucop.edu wrote: 4. I find arguments to the effect of I love looking at jobs² orthoginal to the discussion since weıre not talking about disallowing job postings, but just moving them to a separate list. Anyone who is interested enough in jobs

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs

2014-05-09 Thread Kyle Banerjee
I have filters set up, and find they just don't work reliably. OK, they work 9 times out of 10, but things always slip through. Imho, there are more people inconvenienced by having jobs on the list (setting up filters, filters not working, unable to filter digests, etc.) than there are

Re: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Sarvas
- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart Yeates Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs The fact that the only person who has given any

[CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Susan Kane
Obviously, we must now task someone in CODE4LIB with writing a Python script to convert New Zealand English to International English. Or, I guess we could solve this on the user side with a sarcasm filter or a humor pipe, but you might lose some data that way. :-) -- Susan Kane Boston(ish), MA

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Ben Brumfield
I suspect I'm not the only mostly-lurker who subscribes to CODE4LIB in digest mode, finding value in a glance over the previous day's discussions each morning, then (very) occasionally weighing in on individual threads via the web interface. I find this to be more effective and efficient than

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Joe Hourcle
On May 8, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Ben Brumfield wrote: I suspect I'm not the only mostly-lurker who subscribes to CODE4LIB in digest mode, finding value in a glance over the previous day's discussions each morning, then (very) occasionally weighing in on individual threads via the web

[CODE4LIB] Add job as a listserv topic (was Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs)

2014-05-08 Thread Jodi Schneider
Of everything I heard, Joe's suggestion sounds most palatable. I hope jobs will *always* be on the list but I understand that some people don't want to read them and feel it's a burden to filter (there are a lot of crappy mail clients out there). The documentation I looked at isn't detailed

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Scott Fisher
I¹ll +1 the suggestion for a separate list for jobs. My personal reasons: 1. I receive the digest version of the code4lib emails (once daily), so I can¹t easily split just jobs into their own folder in my mail program since it¹s all one file. I don¹t really want to start parsing and splitting

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Simon Spero
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Joe Hourcle onei...@grace.nascom.nasa.govwrote: On May 8, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Ben Brumfield wrote:As this is an an actual LISTSERV(tm) mailing list, it's possible for the list owner to define 'topics', and then for people to set up their subscription to exclude

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Coral Sheldon-Hess
I have another, maybe minor, point to add to this: I've posted a job to Code4Lib, and I did it wrong. I have no idea how I'm supposed to make a job show up correctly, and now that I have realized I've done it wrong, I probably won't send another job to this list. (Or maybe I'll look it up in ...

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Joe Hourcle
On May 8, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: I have another, maybe minor, point to add to this: I've posted a job to Code4Lib, and I did it wrong. I have no idea how I'm supposed to make a job show up correctly, and now that I have realized I've done it wrong, I probably won't send

Re: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread Stuart Yeates
On 05/09/2014 02:44 AM, Susan Kane wrote: Obviously, we must now task someone in CODE4LIB with writing a Python script to convert New Zealand English to International English. Yes, because tasking people with AI-complete programming tasks (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-complete ) is

[CODE4LIB] how to post jobs (was Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs)

2014-05-08 Thread Jodi Schneider
Hi Coral all, On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.orgwrote: I have another, maybe minor, point to add to this: I've posted a job to Code4Lib, and I did it wrong. I have no idea how I'm supposed to make a job show up correctly, and now that I have realized

Re: [CODE4LIB] how to post jobs (was Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs)

2014-05-08 Thread Stuart Yeates
On 05/09/2014 10:04 AM, Jodi Schneider wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: I have another, maybe minor, point to add to this: I've posted a job to Code4Lib, and I did it wrong. I have no idea how I'm supposed to make a job show up correctly, and now that I have

Re: [CODE4LIB] how to post jobs (was Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for Jobs)

2014-05-08 Thread Rosalyn Metz
pull request with something along those lines: https://github.com/code4lib/shortimer/pull/31 On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Stuart Yeates stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nzwrote: On 05/09/2014 10:04 AM, Jodi Schneider wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: I have another,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-08 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete!     Honestly, though, who all would even want to understand a Kiwi? They're practically escaped convicts, since everyone in the Northern Hemisphere knows that they're just tiny Aussies.* Also, I have to translate code for them, since they cannot do for themselves. [1] Ba dum cha,

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Sarah Shealy
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:51:02 +1200 From: stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU On 05/07/2014 04:59 AM, Richard Sarvas wrote: Not to be a jerk about this, but why is the answer always No? There seem to be more posts

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread emily mitchell
: Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:51:02 +1200 From: stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU On 05/07/2014 04:59 AM, Richard Sarvas wrote: Not to be a jerk about this, but why is the answer always No? There seem to be more posts

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Mark Vega
I'm a 'big picture' kind of guy and I personally think that knowing what's going on in the world of libraries (including employment needs and requirements) is an essential part of coding for libraries. I also echo the sentiment that I don't need yet another list-serv subscription - I can

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Karen Coyle
On 5/7/14, 5:37 AM, Sarah Shealy wrote: you're creating an artificial divide between us and them. No one is 'intruding' on anyone - it's a public forum for people who work in LIBRARIES (aka - places where inclusion is supposed to rule) without any filtering of participants, so technically

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Fleming, Declan
;) -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Sarah Shealy Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:38 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:51:02 +1200 From: stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz Subject: Re

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread David Friggens
This is a pretty terrible reply. I thought it was a great reply. obscure words (seriously, shibboleth?) Somewhat obscure, but not so much in Code4Lib. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth_(Internet2) Unless you're trying to be sarcastic...in which

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Chad Fennell
Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for discussing a separate list for Job: postings? code4lib-discuss-jobs-list-jobs-list, perhaps? :P /runs away On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:17 PM, David Friggens frigg...@waikato.ac.nz wrote: This is a pretty terrible reply. I thought it

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Charles Blair
I don't mind having them both in the same feed. They're easy enough to tell apart even w/o a filter. The reason I say this is that when I see something like Job: Digital Assets Librarian, or Job: Linked Data Technologist, Metadata at Stanford University, just to pick two at random, that's a good

[CODE4LIB] Withdraw my post was: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Stuart Yeates
The fact that the only person who has given any acknowledgement of understanding my message was someone else in .ac.nz suggests that despite my best efforts my message content was effectively shredded by the implicit conversion from New Zealand English to International English. My apologies;

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Barnes, Hugh
[mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Blair Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2014 11:56 a.m. To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I don't mind having them both in the same feed. They're easy enough to tell apart even w/o a filter. The reason I say

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread jason bengtson
:) -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Blair Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2014 11:56 a.m. To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I don't mind having them both in the same feed. They're

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-07 Thread Tom Cramer
In the great growing tradition of 21st century political debate, I will avoid the questions in this thread entirely, and pivot to points that I personally find gratifying to discuss, as I'm enjoying the observations of others: 1.) For the record, though I've never been to New Zealand (still

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Devon
No. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.comwrote: Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for Job: postings? code4lib-jobs, perhaps? -Dan -- Sent from my GMail account.

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Edward M. Corrado
No On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Devon dec...@gmail.com wrote: No. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.comwrote: Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for Job: postings? code4lib-jobs, perhaps? -Dan -- Sent from my GMail

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
This comes up all the time, and always it's no. For anyone who doesn't like the job postings, use email filters. -Wilhelmina On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for Job: postings?

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Richard Sarvas
: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs This comes up all the time, and always it's no. For anyone who doesn't like the job postings, use email filters. -Wilhelmina On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Richard Sarvas richard.sar...@lib.uconn.edu wrote: Not to be a jerk about this, but why is the answer always No? There seem to be more posts on this list relating to job openings than there are relating to code discussions. Are job postings a part why this list

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Junior Tidal
No. Junior Tidal Assistant Professor Web Services and Multimedia Librarian New York City College of Technology, CUNY 300 Jay Street, Rm A434 Brooklyn, NY 11201 718.260.5481 http://library.citytech.cuny.edu Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com 5/6/2014 12:34 PM Is it time to reconsider:

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Forrest, Stuart
No -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward M. Corrado Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:38 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs No On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Devon dec...@gmail.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Jacobs, Jane W
@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Chudnov Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:35 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for Job: postings? code4lib-jobs, perhaps? -Dan *Shop to Support Queens Library! Buy books, e

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Sharp, Chris
No. The sender is j...@code4lib.org, so that makes email filters super easy ;-). - Original Message - From: Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 12:34:31 PM Subject: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs Is it time to reconsider

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Kate Kosturski
the ones that are way above my head, but at least I've some idea what terms to look up! JJ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Chudnov Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:35 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] separate

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Steve Meyer
There is another benefit in addition to, skills should I cultivate. There is a follow-the-money factor. Declaring I'm for Linked Data is one thing. Putting Linked Data in a job title is something far more significant. Since code4lib is not always boast4lib-ish, it would be too great a loss to not

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Cynthia Ng
: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs Is it time to reconsider: should we start a separate list for Job: postings? code4lib-jobs, perhaps? -Dan *Shop to Support Queens Library! Buy books, e-books, videos, music, gifts at great prices. A portion of the proceeds benefit Queens Library

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Richard Sarvas
Very well then, carry on with the job postings. Rick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Meyer Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs There is another

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Carrick Rogers
- Original Message - From: Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:33:09 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs what jobs emails? I haven't seen one of those since I started on this list =P I agree that a simple filter works

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Ben Stewart
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Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Stuart Yeates
On 05/07/2014 04:59 AM, Richard Sarvas wrote: Not to be a jerk about this, but why is the answer always No? There seem to be more posts on this list relating to job openings than there are relating to code discussions. Are job postings a part why this list was originally created? If so, I'll

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
...@gmail.com To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:33:09 AM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs what jobs emails? I haven't seen one of those since I started on this list =P I agree that a simple filter works perfectly well, and the lower number of mailing list

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Richard Sarvas
for taking the time to explain reason why so many job postings appear on this list. Rick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart Yeates Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Devon
Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart Yeates Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs On 05/07/2014 04:59 AM, Richard Sarvas wrote: Not to be a jerk about

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Ruth Frasur
. Rick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart Yeates Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs On 05/07/2014 04:59 AM, Richard Sarvas wrote

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Riley Childs
...@hagerstownlibrary.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:53 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I rarely post anything to this list because honestly I'm not qualified in most cases. For this, however, I'm qualified. While I didn't see the initial question, I've figured

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Riley Childs
, 2014 4:53 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I rarely post anything to this list because honestly I'm not qualified in most cases. For this, however, I'm qualified. While I didn't see the initial question, I've figured it through its replies. Some

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Ruth Frasur
From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Ruth Frasur [direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:53 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I rarely post anything to this list because honestly I'm

Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs

2014-05-06 Thread Barnes, Hugh
: Wednesday, 7 May 2014 9:10 a.m. To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs I vote no the separation, even though I am a high school student I still enjoy reading the postings and seeing what jobs are out there, people with solid jobs likely agree with me 100%, plus