Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-08-02 Thread Boris Unckel
Hello, Simon Kitching wrote: If I were writing a 1.4+ library or app, I'd just use java.util.logging directly. Which reminds me: is the JULI implementation of the java.util.logging API (used in tomcat) available as an independent library? If not, maybe it is worth extracting it as a project of

Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-08-01 Thread sebb
On 31/07/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/28/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Sure you could argue that log4j is more powerful, but the same could be said of ORO. Increasingly people just aren't going to care. We're starting to talk about moving to 1.3 so we can

Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-31 Thread Henri Yandell
On 7/28/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapestry is thinking of switching to SL4J instead of Jakarta Commons Logging: I've been meaning to ask... is there really much reason for a JDK 1.4+ application/library to depend on commons-logging? Sure you could argue that log4j is more

Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-31 Thread Simon Kitching
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:08 -0700, Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/28/06, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapestry is thinking of switching to SL4J instead of Jakarta Commons Logging: I've been meaning to ask... is there really much reason for a JDK 1.4+ application/library to depend on

RE: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-29 Thread James Carman
Curdt Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:10 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL A pretty common complaint is that commons-logging is a problem. It does some wierd and awkward class loading things that ultimately result in memory leaks. Well, it's probably

RE: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-29 Thread Simon Kitching
: [logging] Tapestry and JCL From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thoughts? I would really hate to see an Apache TLP, java-based project switch off JCL in favor of a non-ASF logging API. Unless I'm mistaken, SLF4J comes from Ceki, creator of Log4J. Thus the SLF4J website and separation

Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-28 Thread Stephen Colebourne
From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thoughts? I would really hate to see an Apache TLP, java-based project switch off JCL in favor of a non-ASF logging API. Unless I'm mistaken, SLF4J comes from Ceki, creator of Log4J. Thus the SLF4J website and separation is as much for political reasons

RE: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-28 Thread James Carman
AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL From: James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thoughts? I would really hate to see an Apache TLP, java-based project switch off JCL in favor of a non-ASF logging API. Unless I'm mistaken, SLF4J comes from Ceki, creator

Re: [logging] Tapestry and JCL

2006-07-28 Thread Torsten Curdt
A pretty common complaint is that commons-logging is a problem. It does some wierd and awkward class loading things that ultimately result in memory leaks. Well, it's probably not me to answer (Simon?) but AFAIU most of these things were addressed with the last release of JCL. What's left is