Re: Example of accelerometers utility

2007-12-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 03 December 2007, Stroller wrote: On 2 Dec 2007, at 15:42, Steven Le Roux wrote: Here is a video which shows some applications for accelerometers in a current phone use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWc-j4Xs5_w I _love_ the ball-bearing inbox and the way that a message from

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-04 Thread Peter Rasmussen
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Peter Rasmussen wrote: I didn't get very far with a SIM card in my GTA01, because the PIN I enter isn't accepted, even though it is correct. This sounds like http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1028 Could you please try to a)

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-04 Thread Peter Rasmussen
I didn't get very far with a SIM card in my GTA01, because the PIN I enter isn't accepted, even though it is correct. Is that a telephony related bug? However, It is great to see support for SDHC, as I could now access such a flash card. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
You can get receivers for Polar chest straps that signal beats with gpio-accessible pulses. If the Neo1973 isn't completely packed inside, it should be an easy add-on. I dont understand what you are saying here. Are you saying there is a wireless reciever on the market which can be purchased

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
On Dec 4, 2007 7:11 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. ok, but what is the protocol.

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Neil Davey
Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. These can be easily interfaced to a micro (or the Neo in this case).. measure the time between

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a receiver chip one could buy to detect these magnetic

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Neil Davey
If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. I have some docs somewhere but can not find them at the moment.. >From a google search there is a page that talks about the transmitter

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-04 Thread Thomas Wood
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:51 +0100, Peter Rasmussen wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Peter Rasmussen wrote: I didn't get very far with a SIM card in my GTA01, because the PIN I enter isn't accepted, even though it is correct. This sounds like

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, hank williams wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread William Voorhees
The Polar HR Monitor equipment does a very simple 5hz pulse that can then be picked up and counted to get HR data.The hardware simply amplifies pluses in the 5hz frequency range, which could then be fed into a General Purpose Input Output (GPIO) line on the Neo 1973 itself. This is great because

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are these: http://www.thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Thanks, Yes I am familiar with ant, but was curious if polar was the same thing or some different broadcast system. Hank

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread William Voorhees
Does anyone have any experience with the Hardware side of things? Possibility of integrating ANT directly into the Neo 1973? -Will On Dec 4, 2007 10:47 AM, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are

Toolchain alpha release

2007-12-04 Thread John Lee
Hi, Please check http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 It's the alpha release of a lean toolchain built on debian lenny, x86_64. The source of openmoko-sample2 is included so you could compile and install it on your neo. The tarball must

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-04 Thread Peter Rasmussen
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Peter Rasmussen wrote: I checked out bug #1028, and yes, even with the limited info there, it seems to be the same. Thanks for confirming! That was the least I could do! A couple of seconds later you should see a popup with your mobile service

Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Lars Hallberg
The toolchain is great news, but I rather avoid cross compiling completely and build native on the neo. Building small apps should not be too slow on the neo. And having the build env with You on that 9 hour train trip is *good*. As most development and testing can be performed on the

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
The toolchain is great news, but I rather avoid cross compiling completely and build native on the neo. i do a lot of python work onboard the neo these days .. i have to say, its my favourite python machine right now. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 2:56 PM, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But You don't want to build more than necessary. I have seen gcc, g++, make and stuff available for ipkg - but are there any dev versions of the libs available? And would it be possible to have stripped libs on the neo and install

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-04 Thread Jon Phillips
Priorities for mass usage: 1. phone working 2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge) Am I wrong? Jon On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:29 +0100, Peter Rasmussen wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Peter Rasmussen wrote: I checked out bug #1028, and yes, even with the limited

SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse (was: 2007.11 snapshot available)

2007-12-04 Thread Bernhard Kaindl
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Jon Phillips wrote: Priorities for mass usage: 1. phone working 2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge) Am I wrong? It depends how you define as mass and usage. Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Lars Hallberg
Shawn Rutledge skrev: Yes all the ipkg's you need exist, but there isn't enough flash to install them all. What I did is reformat a MicroSD card to ext2, cp -a /usr to the card, then modify /etc/fstab to automatically mount the card on /usr at boot. Then install task-base-dev and whatever else

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse (was: 2007.11 snapshot available)

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a part of mass, then you are wrong and yes, text text messaging (SMS) is an absolute requirement for European mobile Plenty of people use SMS

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 7:13 PM, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, exactly what I was hoping for. Is all in the default repository's or did You have to hunt it down? Just do ipkg install like usual (assuming you have set things up so that the phone has 'net access, like via NAT over USB)

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Lars Hallberg
Shawn Rutledge skrev: On Dec 4, 2007 7:13 PM, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, exactly what I was hoping for. Is all in the default repository's or did You have to hunt it down? Just do ipkg install like usual (assuming you have set things up so that the phone has 'net access,

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Joshua Layne
First, while I have done basically what you are talking about, I am now a believer in cross compile environments, even with all their pain. Several years ago, I built roadmap-gtk2 on my h2200 ipaq because I couldn't then get the cross compile environment set up. It took over a day and locked the

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
My plan was to mount the sd card as /dev and use 'ipkg -d /dev' to install all dev related. But I'm not sure about all needed to tie it all up (PATH, lsconfig etc). lame path name. use /hak instead. (or set your phone up to boot from SD and then just install everything you need like

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse

2007-12-04 Thread flexd
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a part of mass, then you are wrong and yes, text text messaging (SMS) is an absolute