RE: (no subject)

2008-04-01 Thread David Samblas Martinez
You have created a thread with more than 2 replies... YOU ARE IN Wellcome :), Now can be a little more precise on that need and maybe we can help a little more --- Thinesh thusinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I need to get into the community... add me in..

Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
I'm going to have a dig through citeseer for some ideas on representing accelerometer data in reasonably practical and time/scale/affine invariant form(s). I'd guess any libs/api would prefer to use fixed point if possible? Don't know what the chip resources are for fp math off hand. I notice

GSoC: Student Application Deadline Extended

2008-04-01 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. Just a small update for our GSoC students. Google decided to extend the deadline for the applications. http://tinyurl.com/233j4x We have 42, no kidding, applications right now. Which is 1% of all applications GSoC got until now. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description:

Re: More than a phone with a GPS navigator

2008-04-01 Thread ewanm89
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:00:39 +0100 Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:59:42 +0100, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | That's the point: while you're inside a building, all you have to know | is that you're still inside. Well you can know where you

Re: Network Manager

2008-04-01 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 14:06, Alex Zhang wrote: The project is http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/enlazar/ I think it's easy to develop a daemon talking with NM to manage the networks. But most important thing is to merge NM into our devices, because NM depends on many packages

Re: 3 nets

2008-04-01 Thread Oliver Uvman
Ah ok, thanks for clarifying. /Oliver playing media != IPTV I know of the glamo chip. It will do little to help decode IPTV-style compression realtime AFAIK. As mentioned in this thread before, you have to transcode offline prior to playing it on NEO. Glamo might help to avoid prerotating, but

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Kyle Bassett
I think your examples are very possible. Kind of reaching would be something like trying to detect the type of jacket the person is wearing based on how much the fibers stretch during each step...or whether their jacket is open, by measuring the horizontal swinging motion. If the acceleration

Our Wiki page views

2008-04-01 Thread Brenda Wang
Hi , Every one : Attached file is our wiki Top 50 page views this month since 10, Mar to 30. Unfortunately , I can't export the file with English version. Just for reference. Regards. Brenda Analytics_wiki.openmoko.org_20080229-20080330_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF

Re: Community announcement: poll for Openmoko Community Member of the Week

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi! Thanks whoever set up the wiki page. I'd like to suggest a minor change: The last column should be the names (or nick) of the voters, to avoid voting twice by mistake. Take a look at the third line I've just added as a sample. If there are no objections I'll make that change at the end

wiki page views --English version

2008-04-01 Thread Brenda Wang
Hi , Every one : Attached file is our wiki Top 50 page views this month since 10, Mar to 30. Fortunately , someone help me to transfer to English version. Just for reference. Brenda Analytics_wiki.openmoko.org_20080229-20080330_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document

support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread John Lee
Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever platform they want, even the close source ones. We will make necessary modifications to wine, thus

choosing a standard

2008-04-01 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Hi list. I want to write an application for the Freerunner to control stuff in my house. This includes TV, light and other stuff. For the TV, I want a smart remote, that remembers which channels I usually watch on a given time and weekday. It should sort the channels so that my favorite program

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Vincent
On 4/1/08, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever platform they want, even the close source ones.

Re: Network Manager

2008-04-01 Thread Stefan Schmidt
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 20:54, Alex Zhang wrote: Alexandre Ghisoli wrote: Le lundi 31 mars 2008 à 11:30 +0800, Alex Zhang a écrit : An feature that would be nice is roaming. Imagine you are using WiFi at home and you are leaving the WiFi range. A warning box could tell you will loose your

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Christian Beier
Am Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:09:14 +0100 schrieb Peter Kraker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately you need accurate speed to be able to get usable data from accelerometers for that. That's why some GPS modules have an interface for tachometer. May be the history of GPS could be used to approximate the

OpenMoko and Opera Mini?

2008-04-01 Thread Erland Lewin
Does OpenMoko run Opera Mini? Opera mini is Java, right, so it should run if OpenMoko has Java support? And I think I've seen that there is at least some initial Java support in OpenMoko, correct me if I'm wrong. Has anyone tried it? I realize that Opera Mini is closed-source, but IMHO it's a

FreeRunner mass market phone, status?

2008-04-01 Thread Kristijan Krsteski
Dear community, Today is 1-th of April, and by my information We have to see mass market phone available for buying!? It's been such a long time that announce list isn't update! As for me, I'm waiting for mass market phone until July/2007. I thing that without any precision date for freerunner

Re: choosing a standard

2008-04-01 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 31 March 2008 14:59, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: Hi list. I want to write an application for the Freerunner to control stuff in my house. This includes TV, light and other stuff. For the TV, I want a smart remote, that remembers which channels I usually watch on a given time

Re: Network Manager

2008-04-01 Thread Alex Zhang
Hi Stefan, Long time no see. :) I think it's easy to develop a daemon talking with NM to manage the networks. But most important thing is to merge NM into our devices, because NM depends on many packages like: libnl, hal, udev, dhclient, wpa_supplicant ... That is the point where a

Treo 750 and Openmoko PLEASE!

2008-04-01 Thread McCreery, Lee CTR DISA
Hey all, My company just supplied me with Treo 750's. Before fumbling around with the Windows based OS, I would like to test drive OM while waiting on the GTA02 release. Can someone from the community point me in the direction of distructions on how to install OM and get this working?

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
Thanks. This package's guts might work as a starting point for gesture recognition. Prob some other fos out there sw does similar things. http://www.risujin.org/cellwriter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Bassett Sent:

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 07:05, John Lee wrote: Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever platform they want, even the close source

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Ryan Prior
This really shows how little the OpenMoko community understands the Neo. Why port Windows Mobile when we could be porting Windows 3.1? Windows 3.1 is a lightweight OS which has excellent application support from a broad and stable base of industry, and which has successors which we know to be of

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Kolja Dummann
I don't know, if there will be a official Car Charger, but if not you might use something like this[1] [1] http://tiny.cc/IJMHm 2008/4/1, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something

Re: wiki page views --English version

2008-04-01 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/1/08, Brenda Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , Every one : Attached file is our wiki Top 50 page views this month since 10, Mar to 30. Fortunately , someone help me to transfer to English version. Just for reference. Brenda This is really great. It will also give an idea of

Re: Openmoko strives for openness (smedia glamo)

2008-04-01 Thread Harald Welte
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:46:52PM +0100, joerg wrote: Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: 2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the

Re: Network Manager

2008-04-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | And for business needs, a VPN manager would be very nice (OpenVPN or | OpenSWAN IPSEC based). This would indeed be very useful, not just for business either: it allows safe use of open WLAN without

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Ian Darwin
John Lee wrote: Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever platform they want, even the close source ones. We will make necessary

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Lee wrote: Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever

Re: choosing a standard

2008-04-01 Thread Tilman Baumann
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: My plan is to connect the divices to a micro controller, a multiplexer and then to a linksys wireless router (flashed) over rs232 or usb. A normal computer could of course also be used. Sun had Jini, which was then a bit to early and now nearly forgotten.

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Tilman Baumann
Ryan Prior wrote: This really shows how little the OpenMoko community understands the Neo. Why port Windows Mobile when we could be porting Windows 3.1? Windows 3.1 is a lightweight OS which has excellent application support from a broad and stable base of industry, and which has successors

Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
Hello! Some mobile phone vendors are now looking into wireless charging. A wireless charger technology is more user-friendly than the traditional wired phone chargers. However, users will only truly benefit from the interoperability between chargers for different phones if the vendors

Re: FreeRunner mass market phone, status?

2008-04-01 Thread Matt Manjos
Well, the mass market phone itself won't be available for a long time. The next date should be the release of the HARDWARE of the final phone, but shipping with incomplete (developer) software. If you want a final, polished, stable phone, it's going to be some time now. Last I heard the testing

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Matt Manjos
It's about time this decision has been made. I'm sick and tired of having all this source code lying around. I feel much better if it's all taken care of by someone else. When do the NDAs get shipped out, so community members can get authorized to work on software for the Freerunner? On Tue, Apr

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Tilman Baumann ha scritto: [snip] Check your calendar. ;) Noticed something? April, first, ... Tilman OMG, i was just waiting for it, it's very beautiful and easy to use, highly customizable,. I was planning to buy a GTA03 instead of a GTA02 i hope that you are serious regarding the

Re: choosing a standard

2008-04-01 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: My plan is to connect the divices to a micro controller, a multiplexer and then to a linksys wireless router (flashed) over rs232 or usb. A normal computer could of course also be used. Sun had Jini, which was then a bit to early and

RE: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
You need to fill out the form to request an NDA and have your IP lawyer submit it to Microsoft along with a $100,000 consideration fee. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Manjos Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:28 PM To: List for

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Ortwin Regel
Why not simply use standard wireless USB chargers? On 4/1/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Some mobile phone vendors are now looking into wireless charging. A wireless charger technology is more user-friendly than the traditional wired phone chargers. However, users

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give me the specs of the charger, Voltage and Amps. Alexander Frøyseth Kolja

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Johann Koenig
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
ROTFL! John Lee wrote: Dear Community, A decision has been made _today_ that Openmoko is going to support Windows mobile. We, the distribution team, want to provide our customers the maximum freedom in choosing whatever platform they want, even the close source ones. We will make necessary

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
ROTFLMAO! Ryan Prior wrote: This really shows how little the OpenMoko community understands the Neo. Why port Windows Mobile when we could be porting Windows 3.1? Windows 3.1 is a lightweight OS which has excellent application support from a broad and stable base of industry, and which has

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:46:57 +0200, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will OpenMoko, with its openness, be the first to implement MPLampS? Why not simply use standard wireless USB chargers? Or figure out how this device is implemented. http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Paolo Cavallini writes: Vincent ha scritto: Excellent! While I thought the Neo was an excellent device, I didn't quite like the openness of the OS. You know, it adds security risks and stuff. ?? Congratulations -- you got one! ___ Openmoko

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor | between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
That is priceless. Too good! Thanks for the laugh, Michael Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Hello! Some mobile phone vendors are now looking into wireless charging. A wireless charger technology is more user-friendly than the traditional wired phone chargers. However, users will only truly benefit

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Alessandro Degano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey Feldgendler ha scritto: | On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:46:57 +0200, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Will OpenMoko, with its openness, be the first to implement MPLampS? | | Why not simply use standard wireless USB chargers? Or figure out

Re: FreeRunner mass market phone, status?

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Matt and all of you, I'll be meeting with Steve on Thursday and will ask him for an update. He's usually in touch with the factory and finds out how things are going. Michael Matt Manjos wrote: Well, the mass market phone itself won't be available for a long time. The next date should be

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Tilman Baumann
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Will OpenMoko, with its openness, be the first to implement MPLampS? Sure. Next year. Exactly this date, probably. :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2008-04-01 Thread Luis Hermosilla
Hi! Can you tell me step by step, how do i install Openmoko in my Palm Tx please I'm new in linux, please help me...Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Wireless charger for Neo

2008-04-01 Thread Alexandre Ghisoli
Le mardi 01 avril 2008 à 18:19 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler a écrit : Hello! In fact, an open protocol for transfer of electricity over IP has existed since 2002: RFC 3251 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3251.txt. After DVE (Discrete Voltage Encoding), the electric current can be quickly and

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 4/1/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Norway, where I live, some tunnels are very long and even sometimes contain internal enter and exit lanes, so there can be more than one way to go. My Garmin navigator tries

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2008-04-01 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Luis Hermosilla schrieb: Hi! Can you tell me step by step, how do i install Openmoko in my Palm Tx please I'm new in linux, please help me...Thanks http://zefanja.blogspot.com/2007/09/openmoko-20072-on-palm-tx.html here its explained - does work i tried it myself no need for hard

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2008-04-01 Thread Luis Hermosilla
HI!!! I've problems with Cocoboot, i did all taht the blog says but, cocoboot needs zImage The kernel is in the SD root The image (i change the name ti rootfs.ext2 like the blog say) and save in /linux directory on SD But Cocoboot don't reconize nothing...can you help me? Thanks!!!

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2008-04-01 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
i dont know anymore the exact steps try looking in the config files and search with google at all it openmoko is not usable and it is a very old version.i played 1 minute with it and then deleted it. i cannot recommend to take the time for this experiment. it nice to see someone got it to work

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread enaut
I mean we could also use the open moko to chiptune the engine of our car or to control the ABS/ESP. or we could make it run the car so that nobody needs to pay attension to the road but is that really nessesary or a good idea? I mean it is not a super computer having a really large scale Cpu.

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
I can take a look and draw some plans, perhaps even a PCB plan. But I have to wait to I am back at school in 2 about weeks Alexander Frøyseth Andy Green skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and

Re: support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread Ian Darwin
Ryan Prior wrote: This really shows how little the OpenMoko community understands the Neo. Why port Windows Mobile when we could be porting Windows 3.1? Windows 3.1 is a lightweight OS which has excellent application support from a broad and stable base of industry, and which has successors

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2008-04-01 Thread Luis Hermosilla
I see... Thanks for yours comments... :-) 2008/4/1, Sebastian Hammerl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i dont know anymore the exact steps try looking in the config files and search with google at all it openmoko is not usable and it is a very old version.i played 1 minute with it and then deleted it.

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-04-01 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
It have to be mod sinse a pc usb uses 5V and a car 12V Perhaps the is other resons to Alexander Frøyseth 2008/4/2, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g.