2009/6/25 Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com
The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much
of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language
(Python). This alone contributes to the slowness of the device. Heck,
the frameworkd is a python program. (top
El Wednesday, 24 de June de 2009 22:25:29 Xavier Cremaschi va escriure:
I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug
?
Th OP states that there is a chance to losse the contacts under known isues:
Before install this release backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:08:54PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
2009/6/25 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk:
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available
when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and
then never attempt to re-download them
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:17:59 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:08:54PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
2009/6/25 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk:
I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection
available
when you pan around it will
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:39AM +0400, ivvmm wrote:
Hello list,
found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR
only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them.
The filesystem on it is ext3.
Ext3 is an outdated file system with the
El Thursday, 25 de June de 2009 08:47:04 Michal Brzozowski va escriure:
2009/6/25 Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com
The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much
of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language
(Python). This alone contributes to
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen ha scritto:
will yaouh perform a similar task? i assume even though they are
blank, they will have a date and time, thus when yaouh is run, it will
see they are old/the hash is wrong, and replace them?
No, Yaouh! (version 0.5.1) doesn't update empty map
Wifi
=
It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't
seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network
I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I
know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this).
Workaround: After
Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 10:45:49 schrieb matthias felsche:
Wifi
=
It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't
seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network
I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I
know there's work
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, MicVM wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Paul Fertser wrote:
Problems:
* I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa
device capabilities. I don't know if this is a configuration issue or
a fundamental problem.
I
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 07:05:20PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote:
Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes:
Hum in landscape
When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with
Literki) there's a
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, arne anka wrote:
Wifi
=
It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't
seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network
I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I
know there's work going on in the
Talking about the memory usage of C++:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 22:30 +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
Hmm, that is one very aspect of C++ I wasn't aware of.
But it won't use more than, lets just mention some random language
that's currently making up most of FSO / Paroli (thus Om2009), python.
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 17:32 -0600, Laura Vance wrote:
Interpreted languages are excellent
for rapid prototyping and initial development, but once it's ready for
any type of release, it should be ported to C (in this case) or C++.
From the FSO website
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Tim Abell wrote:
Hi all,
I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the
keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any
applications, including xev.
Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this?
Sounds
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 00:01 +0400, ivvmm wrote:
The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it
You really mean busybox, don't you? ;-) Virtualbox is a virtualization
solution.
David
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Am Mittwoch, den 24.06.2009, 22:32 +0200 schrieb mobi phil:
By the way... did anybody reverse engineer' a bit the iphone ?or
Android?(not necessarily only the code, but gui patterns I think
paying a little attention to their way of doing things maybe will
inspire a bit.
Both Android and the
2009/6/25 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de
That said, this is exactly the reason why I have decided to go with Vala
for FSO 2.0 -- it combines a high abstraction level with the raw
performance of C.
Is there any rough schedule for releasing FSO 2.0?
Th OP states that there is a chance to losse the contacts under known isues:
Would be nice, if somebody could confirm, if loosing contact is still the case.
And the exact step to reproduce it.
There is only one minor issue, namely if the contacts are on the sim too. In
that case, the sim
For connecting to WiFi we have wifiman.py (in shr-settings git repo,
/playground directory). It talks tio connman. Sometimes it doesn't
handle default routes, but we're working on it.
On 6/25/09, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, arne anka wrote:
Wifi
I agree that C++ compiler produces larger footprint. This is due to the more
complex abstraction, expanded templates etc. Normally memory density doubles
each year and prices halfs. For implementing the same abstraction, you would
create probably the same size of exectable both in C and C++, and
Am Mittwoch, den 24.06.2009, 17:32 -0600 schrieb Laura Vance:
The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much
of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language
(Python).
It becomes less of an absurdity when you know the history.
The core systems need
Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2009, 08:47 +0200 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:
2009/6/25 Laura Vance van...@thespazcat.com
The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact
that so much
of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted
language
Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2009, 11:57 +0200 schrieb Michal Brzozowski:
2009/6/25 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de
That said, this is exactly the reason why I have decided to go
with Vala
for FSO 2.0 -- it combines a high abstraction level with the
2009/6/25 mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com
I agree that C++ compiler produces larger footprint. This is due to the
more complex abstraction, expanded templates etc. Normally memory density
doubles each year and prices halfs.
But the Freerunner has 128mb of RAM, and I don't see it doubling every
How long do you think people will carry arround the freerunner in their
pockets, when next year the same time you will be able to buy a crap :)
nvidia tegra based device with 500MB memory for 200$ ?
Plan for the future, not for the past :)
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Michal Brzozowski
I don't want to buy Tegra based device or any other propertiary stuff.
I want to work on my Neo FreeRunner long. And I'm developing mostly
for myself (satisfaction, learning, and usable phone :P)
On 6/25/09, mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com wrote:
How long do you think people will carry arround the
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak pisze:
And I'm developing mostly
for myself (satisfaction, learning, and usable phone :P)
For me too! :)
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:40:56 +0200, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de
wrote:
We just released PISI 0.3.
Contacts synchronization was extended by SIM (via DBUS) support - making
it available to SHR users. Python 2.6 is supported as well (including
all dependency packages).
Contacts
Hello,
I read about this from time to time on the ml, but cannot find results
yet. Does someone have a virtual machine with the om-toolchain set up for
compiling C/Vala programs for the ARMv4?
Having such a vm would simplify development significantly imho... Or we
just need more documentation.
So you need to digg a bit into elementary to see how it calculates the
default font size.
Ok, we should inject the code into msgs2.py line 125:
textbox.size_hint_weight_set(1.0, 1.0)
I tried the following things:
textbox.size_hint_weight_set(15.0, 15.0)
None of them affects the appearance, the fonts are the same as before,
and the sizes too.
Hmm, scale_set() does affect the font size.
So injecting the following code into msgs2.py between line 125 and 126:
textbox.scale_set(1.5)
Makes the text comfortably readable. But it looks to me, it is
Great, thanks Phillippe for letting us know!
Hope you're enjoying your button :)
Cheers, Joseph
2009/6/24 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com:
2009/6/7 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de:
Hey,
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:42:07 +0200
Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com wrote:
no offense, but thinkin only about yourself, what you want, is probably the
cause nr. one for openmoko company/project failing. If you want a company to
sponsor the development of the project, they need to have benefit. They can
generate benefit by selling devices. But if you fail to put on the
El día Thursday, June 25, 2009 a las 01:50:19PM +0200, mobi phil escribió:
no offense, but thinkin only about yourself, what you want, is probably the
cause nr. one for openmoko company/project failing. If you want a company to
sponsor the development of the project, they need to have benefit.
I am affraid that even if you would do your best you would not be able to
reason what is usefull for all the people who subscribed for the list. It is
usefull for at least two people: the person who started the thread and me
:). On the other side it is inpolite to reason in name of others.
So the
Now my lovely lil' Neo is back, and is (as far as I can tell)
buzz-free. Thanks a lot guys.
These are initiatives that makes me happy I bought an FR, no matter
how many problems occured/still occurs.
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If I make VirtualBox virtualmachine containing installed om-toolchain,
where I should upload it? It is sure that somebody wants something
else than VirtualBox, but this it only what I can offer.
Installing libraries to toolchain (if you are not using debian/ubuntu,
use other way to get root)
sudo
2009/6/25 mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com
How long do you think people will carry arround the freerunner in their
pockets, when next year the same time you will be able to buy a crap :)
nvidia tegra based device with 500MB memory for 200$ ?
Plan for the future, not for the past :)
Nvidia
Jon Levell wrote:
Dictator
The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling
if I try and record my voice - this used to work.
I got the same problem with latest shr unstable updates. Only crackling
is to hear from my recordings. And the timeline while playback moves ~5
With the latest shr kernel it also didn't work for me. It seems that the
kernel isn't the problem at all. So i installed shr unstable (for the
first time) to try it there. And surprisingly it worked right out of the
box. :)
So i think that maybe my wpa_supplicant.conf file isn't working anymore
Olivier Migeot a écrit :
Now my lovely lil' Neo is back, and is (as far as I can tell)
buzz-free. Thanks a lot guys.
These are initiatives that makes me happy I bought an FR, no matter
how many problems occured/still occurs.
Mine is back too, after a nice trip to Germany... it just told
On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:25:39 mobi phil wrote:
I am affraid that even if you would do your best you would not be able to
reason what is usefull for all the people who subscribed for the list. It
is usefull for at least two people: the person who started the thread and
me
:). On the other
Am Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 15:20:54 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:
If I make VirtualBox virtualmachine containing installed om-toolchain,
where I should upload it? It is sure that somebody wants something
else than VirtualBox, but this it only what I can offer.
That'd be great... Maybe we can
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote:
One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time
fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can
see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download
anything from it.
So something
uhm... thanks for sharing your experience.
few questions:
you said that maybe your wpa.conf is not working anymore but shr-u is
working out of the box... connecting with mofi? In which way?
I used to have some /etc/network/interfaces files and switch between them...
but now i cannot get connected
I used mofi to connect to my wlan, which also uses a automaticaly
created wpa_supplicant config file. In /etc/network/interfaces i only
changed usb-networking entries in shr-u. I have to investigate which
differences are in the shr-u created and my old wpa conf in debian.
Maybe i can find out why
El día Thursday, June 25, 2009 a las 02:25:39PM +0200, mobi phil escribió:
I am affraid that even if you would do your best you would not be able to
reason what is usefull for all the people who subscribed for the list. It is
usefull for at least two people: the person who started the thread
On 06/24/2009 09:33 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
i think the landscape hum is on all releases. i know for a fact its in
shr-testing
This didn't used to be the case in older SHR-Unstable versions.
Jon.
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Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote:
One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time
fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can
see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download
anything from it.
Am Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 15:20:54 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:
If I make VirtualBox virtualmachine containing installed om-toolchain,
where I should upload it? It is sure that somebody wants something
else than VirtualBox, but this it only what I can offer.
That'd be great...
On 06/24/2009 10:09 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
Midori
To avoid the superuser-warning banner... run it as normal user :-)
- Use useradd
- in the desktop file write: (su username; midori)
Cool. Thanks - now if I could just configure the keyboard shortcuts
midori would be a lot more
On 06/24/2009 10:14 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
What software are you using for WiFi connections? I use SHR-U and I'm
looking for a good program to manage this.
I'm just using Mofi. It's basic but it works (for me).
Jon.
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On 06/25/2009 12:05 AM, Adam Jimerson wrote:
Sorry for the OT here but I haven't figured out how to get the phone to work
in landscape, is there a program that needs installed or something that needs
enabled?
I'm using OMNewRotate for the SHR-repos (but I frequently disable it).
Jon.
On 06/25/2009 10:03 AM, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote:
Dictator
The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling
if I try and record my voice - this used to work.
I think that comes from SHR keeping the alsa state files in
/usr/share/shr/scenarii now - and IIRC
Jon Levell wrote:
On 06/25/2009 10:03 AM, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote:
Dictator
The version in the repositories seems to just record crackling
if I try and record my voice - this used to work.
I think that comes from SHR keeping the alsa state files in
/usr/share/shr/scenarii
Am Mittwoch 24 Juni 2009 22:25:47 schrieb Jon Levell:
Vagalume in the repo/image
==
It crashes
Workaround: Use the one from opkg.org
I've added a bug report including a new .bb for vagalume to OE a month ago,
but nobody cares. And on the SHR trac a similar bug report
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote:
One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time
fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can
see this effect for example when i ssh
mind you, while i've enjoyed the convenience of learning and writing my
sms app in python/pygtk, when i'm done learning it'll definitely be
redone in C. i'm also interested in seeing what vala has to offer and
the contrast of it with C.
-david
On 06/25/09 05:15, David Fokkema wrote:
But it
On Thursday 25 June 2009 05:09:52 am Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 07:05:20PM -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote:
Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes:
Hum in landscape
When the phone
actually - and i'm not picking on you, it really bugs me that developers
think oh, i don't need to trim this down and it's ok to suck up more
resources because next year ram will be cheaper
that's the reason why we have desktops that still bog down with half a
dozen programs running even
have you ever tried reading an ever growing message thread on your FR?
scrolling isn't easy, nor is it fast.
-d
On 06/25/09 08:14, Matthias Apitz wrote:
I think one (you and others) should not do top posting; in addition I
think that the full thread is less than zero usefull;
Good point!
Additionally, I would prefer mailman (or whatever program does it) not
appending the ml signature to *every* mail but only to the ones which
don't have it at the bottom anymore. I always need to remove multiple (3
or more) instances of that sig everytime I do netiquette-compliant
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:35 PM, David Fordda...@blue-labs.org wrote:
i answer it and i can leave it sitting on the
desk for another 7-15 seconds while it keeps on ringing before i pick it
up and can talk.
You should definietly try out om2009. It takes about 2 sec delay when ringing,
and the
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:39AM +0400, ivvmm wrote:
Hello list,
found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR
only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them.
The filesystem on it is ext3.
Ext3 is an
2009/6/25 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de
Am Mittwoch, den 24.06.2009, 17:32 -0600 schrieb Laura Vance:
The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much
of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language
(Python).
It becomes less of an
Hi.
No time to hack, too much busy about my father's health... I sell in
France my Freerunner.
European clean version, with capacitor on SD card contacts (A6 I
presume) but without buzz fix.
Dismounted one time just to clean correctly the screen.
Pack contain:
- FreeRunner
- Wall charger
- USB
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Al
Johnsonopenm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, MicVM wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Paul Fertser wrote:
Problems:
* I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa
device capabilities.
June 25 2009 community updates is out.
After 22 May OM stopped working on official community updates so
that one is totally community made.
Take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009
Best Regards
Nicola
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Great, thanks for releasin!
Could you finish the job, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Update
(- create a new draft etc)
r
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On Thursday 25 June 2009, Michele Brocco wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Al
Johnsonopenm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, MicVM wrote:
Al Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Paul Fertser wrote:
Problems:
* I haven't got it to do sound yet
Good point,
I found details about that in the documentation
(http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#GetPhonebookInfo)
- it's implemented and in SVN already. Will be coming with next PISI
release. Thx.
Greetings
Mike
David Ford
François TOURDE schrieb:
Hi.
No time to hack, too much busy about my father's health... I sell in
France my Freerunner.
European clean version, with capacitor on SD card contacts (A6 I
presume) but without buzz fix.
Dismounted one time just to clean correctly the screen.
Pack
-[ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:47:34PM -0400, David Ford ]
have you ever tried reading an ever growing message thread on your FR?
scrolling isn't easy, nor is it fast.
Another part of the netiquette handle this : if the requotes are
not usefull then delete them.
-[ Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:35:10PM -0400, David Ford ]
every other cellphone i've ever had, had a nearly
instant transition from ring to talk when i answered it.
Certainly because they use hardware from the future.
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Nicola Mfb wrote:
June 25 2009 community updates is out.
After 22 May OM stopped working on official community updates so
that one is totally community made.
Take a look at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009
Best Regards
Nicola
Brenda Wang
El día Thursday, June 25, 2009 a las 02:47:34PM -0400, David Ford escribió:
have you ever tried reading an ever growing message thread on your FR?
scrolling isn't easy, nor is it fast.
I think I'd never use my FR to read and answer the hundreds of mail I
receive every day;
in general: Use a
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