[computer-go] domain computer-go.net

2010-01-19 Thread Nick Wedd
As the owner of the domain computer-go.info, I have received an unsolicited email pointing out that the domain computer-go.net is about to lapse, and offering to acquire it for me. I don't want it - but someone here might. Nick -- Nick Weddn...@maproom.co.uk

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread steve uurtamo
sorry, i should have been more clear. an SE can't be any smarter than a computer player, because it could otherwise easily simulate a computer player, as described. would it be slower? yes, by a constant factor that is bounded by the boardsize. this simulation could be completely paralellized,

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread Christian Nentwich
Steve, I wouldagree with you that writing a good score estimator is extremely difficult, probably as difficult as writing a computer player. However, your argument of equivalence (if that is how I understand it) does not follow. Just because you can score any position does not mean you can

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread Raymond Wold
Christian Nentwich wrote: Steve, I wouldagree with you that writing a good score estimator is extremely difficult, probably as difficult as writing a computer player. However, your argument of equivalence (if that is how I understand it) does not follow. Just because you can score any

[computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Terry McIntyre wrote: ... My pet peeve is the KGS score estimator, which is often wildly wrong As explained by others a strong SE for ALL positions is equivalent to a strong program. Instead one might ask for appropriate partial SE: in many positions the partial SE gives an estimates; in

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread terry mcintyre
It's all about expectations -- at this point, we don't expect any SE to say at move 10: This is a half-point win for white. ( I recall a pro making such an observation; I was willing to accept his expertise on the matter. ) But if it says at move 160: White wins by 5 points, it should be in the

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Boon
2010/1/19 terry mcintyre terrymcint...@yahoo.com: ( I recall a pro making such an observation; I was willing to accept his expertise on the matter. ) Any pro making such a comment at move 10 is just grand-standing. I have experienced pros making such comments too. You can let such a remark pass

Re: [computer-go] Re: Open source real time Go server

2010-01-19 Thread Petr Baudis
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:41:17PM -0800, terry mcintyre wrote: It's all about expectations -- at this point, we don't expect any SE to say at move 10: This is a half-point win for white. ( I recall a pro making such an observation; I was willing to accept his expertise on the matter. )