Re: [Computer-go] copying the human natural processes

2015-09-27 Thread djhbrown .
i never have, did not, and do not propose biomimicry. indeed, it seems to me that things are moving in the exact opposite direction, for of late, most of my opponents across the internet Go board seem to have adopted AyaBot et al playing styles, and for all i know i am playing against man-machine

Re: [Computer-go] impact of AI on Go ... Where / How do i start ?

2015-09-27 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
Well, I'd argue there is nothing inherently superior about copying the human natural processes, instead of using our intellect to find a way to achieve better results in simpler ways. Humans were also not born with domain over tools, or fire, do you suppose there are two kinds of people, the

Re: [Computer-go] codecentric Go Challenge 2015

2015-09-27 Thread Hideki Kato
Hi Ingo, Ingo Althofer: : >Hi Hideki, > >> Starting 8:00 UTC will clash with CGF Open (19x19), which will start at >> 9:30 and will finish at 16:00 JST (7:00 UTC), October 4th. >>

Re: [Computer-go] impact of AI on Go ... Where / How do i start ?

2015-09-27 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
Gonçalo wrote, "Well, I'd argue there is nothing inherently superior about copying the human natural processes..." I couldn't agree more! What inspires me about biological evolution is it's fantastic use of temporal accretion compression; i.e. DNA viewed as fractals. Given that meta-"natural

[Computer-go] October KGS bot tournament, 9x9: correction

2015-09-27 Thread Nick Wedd
The October KGS bot tournament will be on Sunday, October 4th, starting at 16:00 UTC (not 08:00 as previously stated) and ending at 22:40 UTC. It will use 9x9 boards, with time limits of 9 minutes each plus fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7. *Note **that integer komi sllows jigo* as a result.

Re: [Computer-go] October KGS bot tournament: 9x9

2015-09-27 Thread Nick Wedd
Hideki, Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Nick On 27 September 2015 at 09:46, Hideki Kato wrote: > Nick, > > According to the "Future Computer Go Tournament on KGS", it will start > at (not 8:00 but) 16:00 UTC, October 4th. >

Re: [Computer-go] where do I start?

2015-09-27 Thread djhbrown .
. . Sometimes - maybe always - a good night's sleep helps one see the picture more clearly in the morning. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to stop writing emails late at night and shoot my mouth off because i shoot myself in the foot in the process. As i did last night. I need to

Re: [Computer-go] copying the human natural processes

2015-09-27 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
Well I'll just point out a few things... >That is not to say that AI cannot learn a great deal from cognitive psychology etc, but you are welcome to ignore basic research. I never said otherwise. Likewise you are welcome to ignore research in computer Go. >then you know more than Christoph

[Computer-go] October KGS bot tournament: 9x9

2015-09-27 Thread Nick Wedd
The October KGS bot tournament will be on Sunday, October 4th, starting at 08:00 UTC and ending at 14:40 UTC. It will use 9x9 boards, with time limits of 9 minutes each plus fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7. *Note * *that integer komi sllows jigo* as a result. There are details at

Re: [Computer-go] October KGS bot tournament: 9x9

2015-09-27 Thread Hideki Kato
Nick, According to the "Future Computer Go Tournament on KGS", it will start at (not 8:00 but) 16:00 UTC, October 4th. http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/future.html Starting 8:00 UTC will clash with CGF Open (19x19), which will start at 9:30 and will finish at 16:00 JST (7:00 UTC), October 4th.

Re: [Computer-go] impact of AI on Go ... Where / How do i start ?

2015-09-27 Thread djhbrown .
it rather depends on what you think AI is all about and what you want to achieve. there are two kinds of people in the world: those who are curious, and those who just want to make yet another cloned ticky-tacky mousetrap so they can compete on the Go playing-field because they're no good at

Re: [Computer-go] Report KGS Slow Tournament

2015-09-27 Thread Nick Wedd
According to http://computer-go.info/db/oprog.php?a=Abakus it is Tobias Graf, who also contributed to gomorra. Nick On 25 September 2015 at 18:42, Aja Huang wrote: > Congrats to Abakus. Does anyone know who is Abakus` author? > > Aja > On 24 Sep 2015 18:15, "Nick Wedd"

Re: [Computer-go] Report KGS Slow Tournament

2015-09-27 Thread Tobias Pfeiffer
thanks for this link, there are some really interesting papers there :) On 27.09.2015 03:10, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > His paper is also interesting. > Abakus got +130 Elo by online learning. > > Adaptive Playouts in Monte Carlo Tree Search with Policy Gradient > Reinforcement Learning >

Re: [Computer-go] Report KGS Slow Tournament

2015-09-27 Thread Erik van der Werf
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > His paper is also interesting. > Abakus got +130 Elo by online learning. > > Adaptive Playouts in Monte Carlo Tree Search with Policy Gradient > Reinforcement Learning > >

Re: [Computer-go] Building a Go AI Machine

2015-09-27 Thread Petr Baudis
On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 11:23:23PM +0800, Cai Gengyang wrote: > So I am back and ready to get started with building a Go AI Machine. I am > genuinely quite intrigued by the potential impact of AI on Go and also > other applications ... Where / How do i start learning how to build this? Haven't

[Computer-go] codecentric Go Challenge 2015

2015-09-27 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Hideki, > Starting 8:00 UTC will clash with CGF Open (19x19), which will start at > 9:30 and will finish at 16:00 JST (7:00 UTC), October 4th. > http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA012620/cgf2015/cgf2015.html (in > Japanese). We will also have a party with professinals in night. > Could you