Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-24 Thread Erik van der Werf
Normal handicap games with 0.5 komi favor Black by only half a stone/grade compensation (so if there is a full grade difference in strength White still has an advantage). Two handicap stones with normal komi just corrects for one stone/grade strength difference (just like one handicap stone with

Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-24 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Dear Hideki, > >So, were the handicap games played at "normal" komi values > >(6,5 or 7,5 points) ? > > No, but "standard" 0.5 pts. Zen supports very wide range of > komi; about -20 to +30 (mainly for the users of > Tencho-no-Igo). that is very interesting information. In particular, because

Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-23 Thread Hideki Kato
Ingo Althofer: : >Dear Hideki, > On Yugen-no-ma, Nihonkiin's online Go site, many (mainly young) professionals have played more than 200 two-hc games against Zen and its winrate is greater than 70%,

Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-23 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Dear Hideki, >>> On Yugen-no-ma, Nihonkiin's online Go site, many (mainly >>> young) professionals have played more than 200 two-hc games >>> against Zen and its winrate is greater than 70%, AFICR. > >>* Is that the "normal" Zen version, or one that is >>specially tuned for handicap games? >

Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-22 Thread Hideki Kato
>> BTW, the games between Zen and professionals can be watched >> any payed members of Nihonkiin. > >Thanks for that information. >Does the server has the opportunity for English interface? My friend told me that perhaps WBaduk client provides English interface for Yugen-no-Ma (except from

Re: [Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-22 Thread Hideki Kato
Dear Ingo, Ingo Althofer: : >Dear Hideki, > >> >> On Yugen-no-ma, Nihonkiin's online Go site, many (mainly >> >> young) professionals have played more than 200 two-hc games >> >> against Zen and its winrate is greater

[Computer-go] Zen giving handicap against pro players

2018-01-21 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Dear Hideki, > >> On Yugen-no-ma, Nihonkiin's online Go site, many (mainly > >> young) professionals have played more than 200 two-hc games > >> against Zen and its winrate is greater than 70%, AFICR. > > ... > > Early December or late November, I remember but due to an > accident. HC games