[Computer-go] Leela Zero is playing self-atari in seki

Hi, I noticed these CGOS games, where Leela was winning but lost the game by playing self-atari in a seki: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?19x19/SGF/2021/01/25/733873.sgf http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?19x19/SGF/2021/01/25/733820.sgf If Leela is still being developed, it would be

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS source on github

Hi David, You are right that non-determinism and bot blind spots are a source of problems with Elo ratings. I add randomness to the openings, but it is still difficult to avoid repeating some patterns. I have just noticed that the two wins of CrazyStone-81-15po against LZ_286_e6e2_p400 were

[Computer-go] 12 UEC Cup in March

Hi, I had not noticed, but there will be an online UEC Cup in March: http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/new_uec/ It seems that the English page there has the wrong date: http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/new_uec/en/outline.html If I understand correctly it will take place on March 20th-21st. I will

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS source on github

Thanks for computing the new rating list. I feel it did not fix anything. The old Zen, cronus, etc.have almost no change at all. So it is not a good fix, in my opinion. No need to change anything to the official ratings. The fundamental problem seems that the Elo rating model is too wrong for

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS source on github

I checked, and CrazyStone-57-TiV is using the same neural network and hardware as CrazyStone-18.04. Batch size, cuDNN version, and time management heuristics may have changed, but I expect that strength should be almost identical. CrazyStone-57-TiV may be a little stronger. So it seems that the

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS source on github

Hi, Thanks to you for taking care of CGOS. I have just connected CrazyStone-57-TiV. It is not identical, but should be similar to the old CrazyStone-18.04. CrazyStone-18.04 was the last version of my program that used tensorflow. CrazyStone-57 is the first neural network that did not use

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS rating has drifted a lot

Hi Hiroshi, I tried to compile my old code, but it turns out to be a bit too complicated because it was using tensorflow. I am not using tensorflow any more, and don't want to try to reinstall and recompile it. But I would like to try to take a look at the data. Can I download it anywhere? Can

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS rating has drifted a lot

Hi Hiroshi, Thanks for your work. In both lists CrazyStone-18.04 is ahead of CrazyStone-81-TitV, which is really completely wrong. I will reconnect CrazyStone-18.04 soon. It may help to adjust things a little bit. Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list

[Computer-go] CGOS rating has drifted a lot

Hi, I trained a much stronger 19x19 network for Crazy Stone in December, and connected it to CGOS yesterday. It is winning almost 100% of its games against the version I connected 3 years ago, and still has a lower rating. It seems there has been a very big drift of ratings. Even the Bayeselo

[Computer-go] I am hiring a C++ machine-learning engineer

Hi, I am hiring a programmer to develop game AI software. 100% remote work is possible, but European only (I don't want to apply for a work visa, it is too complicated). The job will consist in developing my home-made deep-learning framework, and apply it to image recognition and board-game AI.

Re: [Computer-go] Monte-Carlo Tree Search as Regularized Policy Optimization

This looks very interesting. >From a quick glance, it seems the improvement is mainly when the number of playouts is small. Also they don't test on the game of Go. Has anybody tried it? I will take a deeper look later. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:49 AM Ray Tayek wrote: > >

[Computer-go] Ownership head in AlphaGo

Hi, I don't know if anybody of you spotted this, but I noticed there was an "ownership head" in the source code of AlphaGo. Just look at the code at 12:25 in the AlphaGo movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing

Re: [Computer-go] 30% faster with a batch size of 63 instead of 64!

Yeh! first win against Kata! http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?9x9/SGF/2020/05/09/999849.sgf In addition to the optimized batch size, I did two other things: - I use two batches of 63 instead of one, with double buffering, so that the GPU is kept 100% busy. About 14k nodes per second

[Computer-go] 30% faster with a batch size of 63 instead of 64!

Hi, I am probably not the only one who made this mistake: it is usually very bad to use a power of 2 for the batch size! Relevant documentation by NVIDIA: https://docs.nvidia.com/deeplearning/performance/dl-performance-convolutional/index.html#quant-effects The documentation is not extremely

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is playing on CGOS 9x9

The two wins of King against Kata have the same opening. I made the opening book of Crazy Stone to avoid this problem. Whenever it draws or loses a game, it marks the leaf of the tree as losing, so that it avoids playing it again. On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:06 AM David Wu wrote: > On Fri, May 8,

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is playing on CGOS 9x9

And congratulations to rn for beating kata in a very beautiful game: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?9x9/SGF/2020/05/08/998312.sgf I am not strong enough to appreciate all the subtleties, but the complexity looks amazing. Rémi On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:04 PM Ryan Hayward wrote: > Hey

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is playing on CGOS 9x9

If White recaptures the Ko, then Black can play at White's 56, capture the stone, and win by 2 points. On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:02 PM Shawn Ligocki wrote: > Thanks for sharing the games, Rémi! > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 6:27 AM Rémi Coulom wrote: > >> In this game, Cra

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is playing on CGOS 9x9

Hi, Thanks to all the strong bots who joined. Kata is impressive. Does anyone know more about its configuration? Is it a single V100 or many? I watched some games, and some where spectacular. A firework of ko fights: http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?9x9/SGF/2020/05/07/997314.sgf In this

[Computer-go] Crazy Stone is playing on CGOS 9x9

Hi, I trained a neural network for 9x9, and it is playing on CGOS. The network has 40 layers (20 residual blocks) of 256 units. It is running on a Titan V GPU, with a batch of 64, at about 9k playouts per second. It is using an opening book that you can browse online there:

[Computer-go] Polygames: Improved Zero Learning

Hi, I have just noticed this has recently been released: github: https://github.com/facebookincubator/polygames paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.09832 Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Training an AlphaGo Zero-like algorithm with limited hardware on 7x7 boards

Building an opening book is a good idea. I do it too. By the way, if anybody is interested, I have put a small 9x9 opening book online: https://www.crazy-sensei.com/book/go_9x9/ Evaluation is +1 for a win, -1 for a loss, for a komi of 7. It may not be very good, because evaluations was done by my

Re: [Computer-go] Training an AlphaGo Zero-like algorithm with limited hardware on 7x7 boards

This is a report after my first day of training my Ataxx network: https://www.game-ai-forum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24=693 Ataxx is played on a 7x7 board. The rules are different, but I expect 7x7 Go would produce similar results. 2k self-play games are more than enough to produce a huge strength

Re: [Computer-go] Training an AlphaGo Zero-like algorithm with limited hardware on 7x7 boards

ance you've written about it somewhere? I'd be interested to learn > more but wasn't able to find anything on the Crazy Stone website. > > Thanks, > Cody > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, January 25, 2020 5:49 PM, Rémi Coulom > wrote: > > Hi, > > Thank

Re: [Computer-go] Training an AlphaGo Zero-like algorithm with limited hardware on 7x7 boards

Hi, Thanks for sharing your experiments. Your match results are strange. Did you use a komi? You should use a komi of 9: https://senseis.xmp.net/?7x7 The final strength of your network looks surprisingly weak. When I started to develop the Zero version of Crazy Stone, I spend a lot of time

[Computer-go] The 11th UEC Cup has been announced

http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/new_uec/en/ December 14 & 15 Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] ML web site was deleted?

Hi Hiroshi, hi everyone I received a few emails from the list in August (from yourself and Martin Mueller), so it seems to be working somehow, but very badly. The mail server is badly configured, and may be considered as a spammer by many systems. For a while, I had a phpbb forum there:

[Computer-go] GoGui 1.5.1 bug-fix release

Hi, We prepared a new version of Gogui. It is available from github: https://github.com/Remi-Coulom/gogui/releases Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] List problem ...

It seems computer-go.org has made it into a black list. Maintainers of the list might wish to fix errors reported there: https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/computer-go.org/ I am now receiving emails correctly with my gmail address. ___ Computer-go mailing list

[Computer-go] Accelerating Self-Play Learning in Go

Hi, I have just found out that the list is not sending emails to my free.fr email address any more. So I subscribed with my gmail address, which I hope should work better. I had missed that very interesting message by David Wu (

[Computer-go] Hyper-Parameter Sweep on AlphaZero General

Hi, Here is a paper you might be interested in: Abstract: Since AlphaGo and AlphaGo Zero have achieved breakground successes in the game of Go, the programs have been generalized to solve other tasks. Subsequently, AlphaZero was developed to play Go, Chess and Shogi. In the literature, the

[Computer-go] A new ELF OpenGo bot and analysis of historical Go games

Hi, I have just discovered that interesting Facebook blog post, in case anybody else missed it: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/open-sourcing-new-elf-opengo-bot-and-go-research/ Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] GoGui 1.5.0

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:50 PM Hiroshi Yamashita < y...@bd.mbn.or.jp > wrote: Hi Remi, Thank you for gogui update! after 10 years? Gomoku and renju support sounds good. Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita On 2018/11/17 5:57, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > In case anybody is interes

Re: [Computer-go] GoGui 1.5.0

emi, Thank you for gogui update! after 10 years? Gomoku and renju support sounds good. Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita On 2018/11/17 5:57, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > In case anybody is interested, we have released a new version of GoGui: > https://github.com/Remi-Coulom

Re: [Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

nload sets c_base to 19652 and c_init to 1.25. Dan On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:27 PM Rémi Coulom < remi.cou...@free.fr > wrote: Hi, The new alphazero paper of DeepMind about chess and shogi has been published in Science: https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-g

[Computer-go] New paper by DeepMind

Hi, The new alphazero paper of DeepMind about chess and shogi has been published in Science: https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-games-chess-shogi-and-go/ pdf: https://deepmind.com/documents/260/alphazero_preprint.pdf I tried to play "spot the difference" with their

[Computer-go] GoGui 1.5.0

Hi, In case anybody is interested, we have released a new version of GoGui: https://github.com/Remi-Coulom/gogui/releases The main purpose of this version is to add support of other games via an extension of the GTP protocol: https://www.kayufu.com/gogui/rules.html It also has minor

Re: [Computer-go] CGF Open 2018 was held

Thanks for your report, and congratulations! Natsukaze is impressive! Yamashita song! - Mail original - De: "Hiroshi Yamashita" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Dimanche 2 Septembre 2018 17:44:39 Objet: [Computer-go] CGF Open 2018 was held Hi, CGF Open was held July 21st and

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

Hi, I am not convinced it is better. I guess rollouts can bring some additional strength, especially in a CPU-only setting. I'll test this later. For the moment, my main objective is shogi. I will participate in the World Computer Shogi Championship in May. So I am developing a

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Rémi Coulom < remi.cou...@free.fr > wrote: 192 and 256 are the numbers of channels. They are fully connected, so the number of 3x3 filters is 192^2, and 256^2. Having liberty counts and string size as input helps, but it solves only a small part of

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

19 network? Weights_33_400 is stronger than Weights_40_400. Maybe it is because Weights_33_400 use CrazyStone's playout, and Weights_40_400 does not use? Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita On 2018/02/28 15:13, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Hi, > > I have just connected the newest version

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

192 and 256 are the numbers of channels. They are fully connected, so the number of 3x3 filters is 192^2, and 256^2. Having liberty counts and string size as input helps, but it solves only a small part of the problem. You can't read a semeai from just the liberty-count information. I tried

Re: [Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

Hi, Thanks Peter for running Leela. I don't think the many LZ instances cause a big problem. It's a pity Zen did not play cronus. cronus is very impressive. The next run of Bayeselo might move cronus to the top. zero40b is very strong too. The new wave of AlphaZero clones will become

[Computer-go] Crazy Stone is back

Hi, I have just connected the newest version of Crazy Stone to CGOS. It is based on the AlphaZero approach. The "Weights" engine were in fact previous experimental versions. CrazyStone-18.03 is using time control and pondering instead of a fixed number of evaluations per move. So it should be

Re: [Computer-go] AGZ Policy Head

I also wonder about this. A purely convolutional approach would save a lot of weights. The output for pass can be set to be a single bias parameter, connected to nothing. Setting pass to a constant might work, too. I don't understand the reason for such a complication. - Mail original

[Computer-go] ICGA Computer Olympiad in Taiwan

Hi, The Computer Olympiad was announced yesterday: " Dear Colleagues, The ICGA is pleased to announce that the 2018 Computer Olympiad and the 10th International Conference on Computer and Games (CG 2018) will be held in Taiwan, from July 9th-13th inclusive. The Chess events, including the

Re: [Computer-go] AI ryusei 2017 first day result

Thanks Hiroshi. Did anything special happen in the game between Maru and FineArt? I wish you good games for the second day. Rémi - Mail original - De: "Hiroshi Yamashita" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Samedi 9 Décembre 2017 10:36:36 Objet: [Computer-go] AI

[Computer-go] Nvidia Titan V!

Hi, Nvidia just announce the release of their new GPU for deep learning: https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/8/16750326/nvidia-titan-v-announced-specs-price-release-date "The Titan V is available today and is limited to two per customer." $2,999, 110 TFLOPS! Rémi

Re: [Computer-go] action-value Q for unexpanded nodes

They have a Q(s,a) term in their node-selection formula, but they don't tell what value they give to an action that has not yet been visited. Maybe Aja can tell us. - Mail original - De: "Álvaro Begué" À: "computer-go" Envoyé:

Re: [Computer-go] November KGS bot tournament

Hi, I would like to thank Nick very much, too. When I was working on Crazy Stone, these tournaments were a great source of motivation and enjoyment. I'll keep particularly good memories of the KGS-tournament parties in Tokyo. So, thanks Nick for a great contribution to our community. Rémi

[Computer-go] Amazon EC2 P3 instances with 8xV100!

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2017/10/introducing-amazon-ec2-p3-instances/ 1xGPU: p3.2xlarge: 8 vCPU, 61 GB RAM, $3.06/h 4xGPU: p3.8xlarge: 32 vCPU, 244 GB, $12.24/h 8xGPU: p3.16xlarge: 64v CPU, 488 GB., $24.48/h Nice solution for a tournament. Probably more powerful than the 4xTPU

[Computer-go] Log plot

Hi, In order to motivate you to run your GPU for 100 years, I made a log plot of AlphaGo Zero's progress: https://www.remi-coulom.fr/CrazyStone/AlphaGo_Log.png I always plot my learning data with a log scale. It often looks much better that way. Rémi

Re: [Computer-go] Ke Jie vs. AlphaGo match

Hi Aja, Can you tell us whether there will be any live broadcast? I read it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/6bxt5i/are_the_alphago_matches_being_shown_live_on/ "American in China here: apparently China has banned all commentary and live streams of the matches, and the city

[Computer-go] I can't send messages to the list any more

: host mail.eugeneweb.com[184.105.139.163] said: 554 5.7.1 : Sender address rejected: Access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command) ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Messages classified as spam.

It is the mail server of this mailing list that is not well configured. Even my own messages are classified as spam for me now. The list does not send DKIM identification. - Mail original - De: "Gian-Carlo Pascutto" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Jeudi 12

Re: [Computer-go] Training the value network (a possibly more efficient approach)

Hi, Thanks for sharing your idea. In my experience it is rarely efficient to train value functions from very short term data (ie, next move). TD(lambda), or training from the final outcome of the game is often better, because it uses a longer horizon. But of course, it is difficult to tell

Re: [Computer-go] ICGA Journal with new Steam

Thanks to the new volunteers. I hope the new team will consider making the journal available online. Rémi - Mail original - De: "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Janvier 2017 21:32:55 Objet: [Computer-go] ICGA Journal with new Steam

Re: [Computer-go] ADMIN: Maintenance, a few days downtime

, indicate which they were. Thanks, Michael On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Recent emails to the list are now classified as spam in my mail client. I did > not take the time to check the reason in details. But it never happened in > the past. Maybe you should chec

Re: [Computer-go] ADMIN: Maintenance, a few days downtime

Recent emails to the list are now classified as spam in my mail client. I did not take the time to check the reason in details. But it never happened in the past. Maybe you should check whether your SPF record is set correctly. Rémi - Mail original - De: v...@computer-go.org À:

Re: [Computer-go] Some experiences with CNN trained on moves by the winning player

er-go@computer-go.org> Envoyé: Dimanche 11 Décembre 2016 22:52:31 Objet: Re: [Computer-go] Some experiences with CNN trained on moves by the winning player On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Rémi Coulom < remi.cou...@free.fr > wrote: It makes the policy stronger because it makes it

[Computer-go] Information about the UEC Cup and Densei-sen

Hi, Registered participants are listed on the tournament web site: http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_html/participant.shtml The date of the Densei-sen was announced: http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/densei/ 2017年3月26日 The registration deadline was extended to December 25th. Rémi

Re: [Computer-go] Some experiences with CNN trained on moves by the winning player

It makes the policy stronger because it makes it more deterministic. The greedy policy is way stronger than the probability distribution. Rémi - Mail original - De: "Detlef Schmicker" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Dimanche 11 Décembre 2016 11:38:08 Objet:

Re: [Computer-go] Auto Go game recorder

It can't record a game. But I have plans to improve it. Probably not before the UEC Cup, though. - Mail original - De: "David Fotland" À: computer-go@computer-go.org Envoyé: Vendredi 25 Novembre 2016 08:08:30 Objet: Re: [Computer-go] Auto Go game recorder Remi

Re: [Computer-go] Video of Aja Huang's presentation

Thanks Ingo. http://www.liacs.leidenuniv.nl/~csicga/cg2016/ah2.mov has the Q session. On 07/06/2016 05:38 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: now online at: http://liacs.leidenuniv.nl/~csicga/cg2016/ah1.mov Ingo. ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] Results 9x9 and 13x13 at Computer Olympiad

Congratulations! If anybody wishes to update the ICGA Tournaments web site: http://www.game-ai-forum.org/icga-tournaments/event.php?id=46 Please ask me by email. I'll send the link and password to edit the database. Rémi - Mail original - De: "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> À:

Re: [Computer-go] new bot friendly go server.

Hi Henry, Thanks for your message. I tried your server (as a human player, not a bot). It might become an interesting alternative to CGOS, mixing humans and bots together. I find it annoying that I cannot choose my pseudo. I understand that you might not want to worry about moderating

Re: [Computer-go] Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyStone

applied, so the probability distribution is not as concentrated, and unlikely moves are not penalized as much? On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@free.fr <mailto:remi.cou...@free.fr>> wrote: Hi, Thanks for using Crazy Stone.

Re: [Computer-go] Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyStone

Thanks, Álvaro. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Xavier Combelle < xavier.combe...@gmail.com > wrote: That's fantastic I suppose crazystone will play with crazystone account, but what will be her handle ? 2016-05-16 9:50 GMT+02:00 Rémi Coulom < remi.cou...@free.fr >

[Computer-go] Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against CrazyStone

Hi, I am very happy to announce that Hajin Lee will play a live commented game against Crazy Stone on Sunday, at 8PM Korean time. The game will take place on KGS, and she will make live comments on her youtube channel. Haylee's youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HayleesWorldofGoBaduk Rémi

[Computer-go] BetaGo?

Anybody knows who is the author of BetaGo? It is playing with account GoBeta on KGS, and is 6d. I found this project: http://maxpumperla.github.io/betago/ But it seems weak. Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

[Computer-go] Nice graph

AlphaGo improved 3-4 stones: http://i.imgur.com/ylQTErVl.jpg (Found in the Life in 19x19 forum) Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

Hi, This UEC Cup was really very exciting. I had started to code my own home-made deep learning library in November, after finishing my Japanese mahjong engine. I was working quietly on it when the Alphago paper was published. Then I felt that I had to urgently get something to work before

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result1.html On 19 mars 2016, at 23:10, James Guo wrote: > Show the official web site link? > From: Hiroshi Yamashita > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM > Subject: [Computer-go] UEC

[Computer-go] Bill Shubert is opening the KGS protocol

https://plus.google.com/+Gokgs/posts/RTK8aFQd98Y Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] CPU vs GPU

] On Behalf Of Rémi Coulom Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 1:23 AM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] CPU vs GPU I tried Detlef's 54% NN on my machine. CPU = i7-5930K, GPU = GTX 980 (not using cuDNN). On the CPU, I get 176 ms time, and 10 ms on the GPU (IIRC, someone reported 6 ms

Re: [Computer-go] CPU vs GPU

. Best, -Chaz On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@free.fr> wrote: How tremendous is it? On that page, I find this data: https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/pull/439 " These are setup details: * Desktop: CPU i7-4770 (Haswell), 3.5 GHz , DRAM - 16 GB; GPU K20. * Ubuntu

[Computer-go] CPU vs GPU

How tremendous is it? On that page, I find this data: https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/pull/439 " These are setup details: * Desktop: CPU i7-4770 (Haswell), 3.5 GHz , DRAM - 16 GB; GPU K20. * Ubuntu 12.04; gcc 4.7.3; MKL 11.1. Test:: imagenet, 100 train iteration (batch = 256). * GPU: time=

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!

Better link: http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/120/index.html (your link sends to the January tournament) On 02/22/2016 01:10 PM, Nick Wedd wrote: Congratulations to Zen19X, winner of the February KGS tournament! My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/120/index.html

Re: [Computer-go] The Game AI Forum is back

mailing list to post on your Forum instead/too? -Richard P.S. Happy New Year! On 01/01/2016 12:56 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: Hi, I had created the Game Programming Forum a few years ago. I decided to put it online again, at a new URL:

[Computer-go] Game Over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dKXOlsf98 Google beats Fan Hui, 2 dan pro, 5-0 (19x19, no handicap)! Congratulations! I am proud of my student Aja. They'll play Lee Sedol in March. It's a pity they don't participate in the UEC Cup. I read the paper. The most original idea is in learning a

Re: [Computer-go] Game Over

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-data/assets/papers/deepmind-mastering-go.pdf On 01/27/2016 06:58 PM, Darren Cook wrote: Is it available online anywhere, or only in Nature? ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Using gogui to visualize a CNN for move prediction

This is a 9x9 example for dboard: = 0.276 0.29 0.335 0.354 0.296 0.227 0.169 0.144 0.126 0.258 0.264 0.332 0.383 0.269 0.201 0.152 0.138 0.118 0.2 0.272 0.35 0.435 0.35 0.238 0.156 0.099 0.095 0.12 0.206 0.43 0.74 0.432 0.274 0.152 0.114 0.084 -0.044 -0.025 0.284 0.394 0.248 0.245 0.154 0.124

Re: [Computer-go] Using gogui to visualize a CNN for move prediction

Use gogui itself, and check gogui analyze commands: http://gogui.sourceforge.net/doc/analyze.html You can see an example there: http://www.remi-coulom.fr/Amsterdam2007/ On 01/09/2016 05:31 AM, Justin .Gilmer wrote: Hello, I've trained a deep CNN for move prediction and would like to

[Computer-go] The Game AI Forum is back

Hi, I had created the Game Programming Forum a few years ago. I decided to put it online again, at a new URL: http://www.game-ai-forum.org/ Maybe some of you will be interested to participate there. Rémi ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] The Game AI Forum is back

, Igor Polyakov wrote: Is there no Go section? On 2016-01-01 0:56, Rémi Coulom wrote: Hi, I had created the Game Programming Forum a few years ago. I decided to put it online again, at a new URL: http://www.game-ai-forum.org/ Maybe some of you will be interested to participate there. Rémi

Re: [Computer-go] The Game AI Forum is back

. Maybe it's having problems, or it doesn't contact e-mails with domains other than the most common hotmails, gmails, yahoos? Gonçalo On 01/01/2016 08:56 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: Hi, I had created the Game Programming Forum a few years ago. I decided to put it online again, at a new URL: https

Re: [Computer-go] Final Call for participation: the 9th UEC Cup Computer Go Tournament: Register NOW!

39 participants! http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/participant.html I am sure this edition will be very exciting. Rémi On 12/08/2015 10:36 PM, 村松正和 wrote: Dear Colleagues, I'm sending the final reminder of registration to the 9th UEC Cup Computer Go Tournament. Please register now by visiting

[Computer-go] Wired: Google and Facebook Race to Solve the Ancient Game of Go With AI

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/google-and-facebook-race-to-solve-the-ancient-game-of-go/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

BTW, CrazyStone-0002 (on 19x19, not 9x9) is running on my desktop PC (i7-5930K). At first, it was running with 4 cores. But then it lost its first game to Aya. I was so impressed by the strength of Aya! So I made it use 6 threads instead. It has been using 6 threads since then. I can't run it

Re: [Computer-go] Facebook Go AI

It is darkforest, indeed: Title: Better Computer Go Player with Neural Network and Long-term Prediction Authors: Yuandong Tian, Yan Zhu Abstract: Competing with top human players in the ancient game of Go has been a long-term goal of artificial intelligence. Go's high branching factor

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

-san, author of HiraBot. Both bot are running by Fukumoto-san, and they make a move without search. Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Rémi Coulom" <remi.cou...@free.fr> To: <computer-go@computer-go.org> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:52 AM

Re: [Computer-go] Simple GUI for visualizing NN probabilities?

I recommend gogui's analyze commands. You can see a screenshot there (using cboard): http://www.remi-coulom.fr/Amsterdam2007/ (Logarithmic scale Blue

Re: [Computer-go] Mylin Valley The World Computer Weiqi Tournament

Thanks Hiroshi. This seems to be a more recent post: http://51wq.lianzhong.com/Home/NewsDetails?newsID=546=%25e7%2584%25a6%25e7%2582%25b9%25e6%2596%25b0%25e9%2597%25bb Congratulations to Dol Baram! Rémi On 11/13/2015 01:17 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: Hi, It seems DolBaram won. (from last

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS again

Hi Hiroshi, Thanks a lot for running CGOS! I have just connected Crazy Stone. It is running on one core of my web server: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800 @ 1.86GHz I plan to let it play forever. I noticed the game gets blocked for a long time when Aya resigns. I suppose that may be on

Re: [Computer-go] Understanding statistics for benchmarking

The intervals given by gogui are the standard deviation, not the usual 95% confidence intervals. For 95% confidence intervals, you have to multiply the standard deviation by two. And you still have the 5% chance of not being inside the interval, so you can still get the occasional

Re: [Computer-go] Facebook Go AI

Can a strong player look at the video and give impressions about the game? On 11/03/2015 03:28 PM, Petr Baudis wrote: Hi! Facebook is working on a Go AI too, now: https://www.facebook.com/Engineering/videos/10153621562717200/

Re: [Computer-go] KGS bot tournaments - what are your opinions?

Hi Nick, If you are to limit hardware in one tournament, I would prefer that it is not the slow tournament. The slow tournament is interesting because it pushes programs to their limits. Rémi On 10/10/2015 07:28 PM, Nick Wedd wrote: Thanks to everyone for their interest and responses. The

Re: [Computer-go] KGS bot tournaments - what are your opinions?

Hi Nick, I don’t care much about having a limit on processing power. I’d be happy either way. Cloud computing platforms like Amazon EC2 allows to rent powerful servers at a low price. The machine I used for the tournament cost me 0.3$/hour or so. So the argument that only rich or academic

Re: [Computer-go] KGS bot tournaments - what are your opinions?

Hi Nick, I don’t care much about having a limit on processing power. I’d be happy either way. Cloud computing platforms like Amazon EC2 allows to rent powerful servers at a low price. The machine I used for the tournament cost me 0.3$/hour or so. So the argument that only rich or academic

Re: [Computer-go] kgsGtp 3.5.20 has a problem?

Hi Hiroshi, It is too bad kgsGtp crashed for Aya yesterday. I was using kgsGtp 3.5.20, and did not have this problem. Maybe it depends on the version of java. I was using default-jre (OpenJDK) in the Ubuntu LTS distro of Amazon AWS. Rémi On 10/05/2015 01:47 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:

Re: [Computer-go] EGC2015 Events

it is mentioned 1475 players and in the list only 602. Does the list mention only players having playing recently ? 2015-07-29 21:32 GMT+02:00 Rémi Coulom remi.cou...@free.fr mailto:remi.cou...@free.fr: Lee Hajin is also quite a bit weaker than Yoda Norimoto or Cho Chikun. BTW

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