Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Darren Cook
Determining the best move is tricky, however. The most natural approach would be to pick the move with the highest probability of leading to a win. But this is usually too risky. For example, a move with 7 wins out of 10 trials may have the highest odds of winning (70 percent), but because

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Darren Cook dar...@dcook.org wrote: If you had a choice between a 1% 65,000-wins move and a 70% 7-wins move, MCTS will keep exploring the 70% move, until it either reaches 65,001 wins, and can be chosen, or the winning percentage comes down to 1% also. BTW,

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Petr Baudis
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:57:17AM +0200, Stefan Kaitschick wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Darren Cook dar...@dcook.org wrote: If you had a choice between a 1% 65,000-wins move and a 70% 7-wins move, MCTS will keep exploring the 70% move, until it either reaches 65,001 wins, and

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-02 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
The artist certainly shows a lack of appreciation and respect for go. Whoever created it, must think that go is already in the bag. Stefan ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-02 Thread Brian Sheppard
02, 2014 4:12 AM To: computer-go@dvandva.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer The artist certainly shows a lack of appreciation and respect for go. Whoever created it, must think that go is already in the bag. Stefan

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-02 Thread Aja Huang
It is a great article overall. I would like it more if it mentions Mogo, at least Follow from the opponent's previous move was actually Mogo's invention in the famous UCT paper, not Fuego's, not to mention a lot of Mogo's achievements on 9x9. But I really like the paragraph describing the great

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-02 Thread Greg Schmidt
Determining the best move is tricky, however. The most natural approach would be to pick the move with the highest probability of leading to a win. But this is usually too risky. For example, a move with 7 wins out of 10 trials may have the highest odds of winning (70 percent), but because

[Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-01 Thread Xavier Combelle
here it is: http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence/ais-have-mastered-chess-will-go-be-next I found it well writted and you ? ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-01 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:43:29PM +0200, Xavier Combelle wrote: here it is: http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence/ais-have-mastered-chess-will-go-be-next I found it well writted and you ? A nice article, thanks for sharing it! But the first image is like

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-01 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Petr, A nice article, thanks for sharing it! But the first image is like putting http://www.cars-10.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/weird_car_design.jpg as the title image of a (serious) article on Google's self-driving cars. well observed. My interpretation: Computer-Go has

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-01 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
Nice banana car. But the picture in the article is an abomination. What got me hooked on go, a quarter century ago, was the first look at a real go position. I immediately felt a rush, that told me this game trumps all I had come to know before. So I'm really very unwilling to forgive that shitty

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-01 Thread David Doshay
I also reacted strongly negatively, but then a commenter mentioned that it was supposed to look like a brain … so while it did not look like real Go, it was supposed to look like the computer had a brain. A weak attempt at multi-meaning art. Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com On 1,