Re: [Computer-go] ieee article about computer go

2014-07-03 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
Thank you for the enlightening explanation. It actually explains more than the explainers may wish to convey. My condolences to you for having that innovative visual opener foisted on your fine article. Stefan ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Darren Cook
Determining the best move is tricky, however. The most natural approach would be to pick the move with the highest probability of leading to a win. But this is usually too risky. For example, a move with 7 wins out of 10 trials may have the highest odds of winning (70 percent), but because

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Darren Cook dar...@dcook.org wrote: If you had a choice between a 1% 65,000-wins move and a 70% 7-wins move, MCTS will keep exploring the 70% move, until it either reaches 65,001 wins, and can be chosen, or the winning percentage comes down to 1% also. BTW,

Re: [Computer-go] ieee aticle about computer go by Jonathan Schaeffer

2014-07-03 Thread Petr Baudis
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:57:17AM +0200, Stefan Kaitschick wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Darren Cook dar...@dcook.org wrote: If you had a choice between a 1% 65,000-wins move and a 70% 7-wins move, MCTS will keep exploring the 70% move, until it either reaches 65,001 wins, and

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 54, Issue 4

2014-07-03 Thread Greg Schmidt
My original example was unrealistic and on the extreme side to make a point. However if there are nodes with say 7/10, 12/20, and 50/100 how should they be ranked? In some sense, the first one seems promising since we've only searched just a few nodes, yet we are mainly seeing wins (granted,

Re: [Computer-go] CGOS migration

2014-07-03 Thread Christoph Birk
On 06/30/2014 01:52 PM, Christoph Birk wrote: On 06/23/2014 02:08 PM, Joshua Shriver wrote: I'm migrating between two servers with different IP's so cgos will be down while DNS records are updated worldwide. I still cannot connect to 'cgos.computergo.org' The connection has timed out The

Re: [Computer-go] ieee article about computer go

2014-07-03 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Martin, hi all, during the European Go Congress 2012 in Bonn, I was able to buy a very nice drawing by Tanja Esser, visualising the difference between Monte Carlo- and human go. http://www.althofer.de/aesthetics-beyond/go--tanja-esser.jpg If someone wants to use this motif for some

Re: [Computer-go] IEEE Spectrum article

2014-07-03 Thread Martin Mueller
It is a great article overall. I would like it more if it mentions Mogo, at least Follow from the opponent's previous move was actually Mogo's invention in the famous UCT paper, not Fuego's, not to mention a lot of Mogo's achievements on 9x9. But I really like the paragraph describing the

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 54, Issue 4

2014-07-03 Thread Petr Baudis
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 06:18:32AM -0700, Greg Schmidt wrote: Perhaps there is an argument that the UCB formula won't generally let this happen since it takes into consideration both win rate and tries to increase confidence by promoting the visit of nodes with low visit counts. Still, I

Re: [Computer-go] IEEE Spectrum article

2014-07-03 Thread Aja Huang
Hi Martin, 2014-07-03 22:02 GMT+01:00 Martin Mueller mmuel...@ualberta.ca: We certainly didn’t mean to short-change the MoGo team's or anybody else’s contribution. For this article there were two main points: - try to explain as much as possible how things work in a current program - have