Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
For Mailbox smashers they make a special extra tough steel mailbox that should break the baseball bat off in their hands On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is one way to find those who got your mailbox.

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-28 Thread Tony B
This may not work as planned though. If the kid gets hurt on your mailbox, his parents can sue. Not to mention if their car gets damaged they'll be back to let you know how happy that makes them! For now, I prefer my 'breakaway' box that's relatively easy to attach back. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-27 Thread Richard P.
The only problem would be getting it attached to the vandal in question ;-) Richard P. You got me thinking. There are many modern day Animal cameras. These are used to capture pictures of animals out in the wild. Proximity detector triggered, good lenses and use SD type cards to capture

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
As I said there lies the conundrum. To get a camera (any type) close enough to take a clear picture to identify and give you a chance of catching the miscreant, you stand a chance that your own trap becomes vandalized. Although I recently have seen a number of video cameras capture vandals

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-27 Thread Tony B
It's hard to compare the security of a cam in a school with that of a cam out in the woods. The one has all sorts of law enforcement protection, the other doesn't. Not to mention in a school setting even a blurry image might be recognizable. Of course, if you just want the cams to deter, then you

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Probably time to split the threads, because comparatively, home security is a breeze with cheap multicam systems with motion sensing, email alerting, and several days of .mp4 recording readily available. Too bad, it could have been a very interesting discussion. Okay... Mac folks to the left.

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Here is one way to find those who got your mailbox. http://my.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20080227/47c4ee50_3ca6_15526200802271119159552 Stewart At 12:38 PM 2/27/2008, you wrote: Probably time to split the threads, because comparatively, home security is a breeze with cheap multicam

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Alvin Auerbach
Okay, let's say that you have the hardware - cameras, recording hardware, etc.; and the software. What useful information can you glean from the pictures? I was experimenting with cameras being sold at Costco, and one of the lenses had a wide enough field of view so that you could catch the

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Tony B
Good point. The local security guru hereabouts likes to tell the story how they got an email from their system (in WV) when they were in Australia. They immediately logged onto the web to take a look and saw a guy standing on their front porch. He didn't seem to be doing much and they watched him

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Matthew Taylor
Do you want to catch the vandals or prevent vandalism? If the latter, you want to advertise the video surveillance - that is how it deters. What type of vandalism has occurred? On Feb 26, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: If I put up my own, with a camera disguised as a bird house,

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro
I live in a large house and I have four cameras looking all four sides. They all have a metal case. My QUAD and Monitor are black and white. They are in the family room. Works fine (when I am at home). Marcio you wrote: It seems to me like you could make a plexiglass box to put the camera

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Jordan
There's a $100 set at Costco.com that is wireless and infra-red capable. I just did a search for security camera at the Costco site. But hey, what do I know. I live on a farm in the boonies and I have 3 big dogs running around.

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Alvin Auerbach
I would like to catch vandals. If I deter them, I will merely displace them, and they will attack someone else in the neighborhood. Catching them may also deter the rest from ever participating in vandalism. Vandalism: Mail box destruction. (This is also a crime.) More serious crime:

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Matthew Taylor
We had a bit of mailbox vandalism a while back. Some folks took to really robust installations with trash can type plastic boxes - you could hammer on them with a baseball bat and only scuff them up a bit. I don't think you need video - I think you want high quality still pictures

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You got me thinking. There are many modern day Animal cameras. These are used to capture pictures of animals out in the wild. Proximity detector triggered, good lenses and use SD type cards to capture pictures. Mounted in the right position it could be just the answer. Stewart At 09:05

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Tony B
This is part of the problem with our trash-cam (which btw, would also overlook a communal mail area). If we put it far enough up a tree or telephone pole to make it vandal-resistant, we won't be able to get to it ourselves! Mounted in the right position it could be just the answer.

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is always the conundrum. Stewart At 10:00 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote: This is part of the problem with our trash-cam (which btw, would also overlook a communal mail area). If we put it far enough up a tree or telephone pole to make it vandal-resistant, we won't be able to get to it

[CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread TracyF2
OK, looking into the world of 1984 and Big Brother. Vandalism in a residential neighboorhood has me looking into possibly putting up an array of video cameras that can watch the streets to get a handle on groups of people cruising the street and ripping mirrors from cars and trashing

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Matthew Taylor
There are any number of security cameras out there on the market. You want one with good variable light capabilities and motion sensing. The easiest way to do it would be for the various home owners to individually mount a camera or cameras on their houses pointing the correct way. The

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Someone tried to break into our house last week so I have been researching this and other security stuff recently. There are many options. There are several brands of camera that have a built-in computer and web server. This would be a simple unit that each homeowner could get independently,

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Tony B
As you point out, this is a nice indoor webcam, but useless for perimeter security. Add another $85 just to get wireless. From my own limited research, it seems to me the cameras need a few basic things: 1) 802 wireless, with a web address 2) weatherproof 3) vandal proof 4) long self-contained

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread db
There is no such affordable battery life that would power your cameras. Other than solar powered charging capability, you will have to tap into house power ... which means hiring a electrician. Maybe there are affordable, widely distributed solar powered yard light units or such that could

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
As you point out, this is a nice indoor webcam, but useless for perimeter security. Without a detailed map you have no way to know that. I know that at least from my home I can see everything that needs to be seen from one window or another. 1) 802 wireless, with a web address 2) weatherproof

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Tony B
I thought we were just discussing the subject in general. There's no way the OP is going to give us a detailed map. That's great if you have windows overlooking your doors. But I'll admit my interest was more towards cameras *in the neighborhood*, not inside my house. We have a little money to

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Richard P.
We see you. Richard P. Jordan wrote: My posts don't seem to get through lately. Would someone please just comment if you see this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Comment. Stewart At 04:24 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: It seems to me like you could make a plexiglass box to put the camera in and mount it to the outside of your house and run power to it through a window. Just an idea. My posts don't seem to get through lately. Would someone please just

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Jordan
It seems to me like you could make a plexiglass box to put the camera in and mount it to the outside of your house and run power to it through a window. Just an idea. My posts don't seem to get through lately. Would someone please just comment if you see this? Tom Piwowar wrote: Someone

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Jeff Wright
Axis makes good LAN/web cams. Not exactly cheap, but not too expensive either. http://www.axis.com/ -Original Message- Someone tried to break into our house last week so I have been researching this and other security stuff recently. There are many options. There are several

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Dunford
My posts don't seem to get through lately. Would someone please just comment if you see this? What a waste of bandwidth. It would be much more efficient to ask for a comment from someone who does NOT see it. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Tony B
Post o the week if he wasn't _trying_ to be funny. :) . On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My posts don't seem to get through lately. Would someone please just comment if you see this? What a waste of bandwidth. It would be much more efficient to ask for

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
No matter which camera you choose, don't be lured into thinking that bright lighting near your house will make you safer. It makes you less safe because the light makes it easier to find the best way to break into your house. Using motion sensor lights--several of them in different locations,

Re: [CGUYS] Neighborhood security cameras

2008-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Many years ago we had no mailboxes, but people still drove up into the yard. Dad fixed that by planting two trees, and then driving 5 foot pipes three feet into the ground and tying the trees to them. If they came up into the yard again, their bottom end would be ripped out. (Much safer