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de Götz Waschk, à Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 09:20
you've mixed this up: intel and alpha are little-endian, while sparc
and ppc are big-endian.
well, not me, the file.
/tmp/dosbox-0.57 $ head INSTALL
First of all if
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de Per Øyvind Karlsen, à Jeudi 20 Mars 2003 04:15
Name: dosbox Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.57 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 2mdk
# (misc, 15/02/2003 ) only work on big endian system.
ExclusiveArch: %ix86
this is incorrect, dosbox runs on other archs too
According to the INSTALL file, it runs only on big endian system.
Since the package is not in debian ( last time I checked, one or two month
ago ), I was unable
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de Till Kamppeter, à Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 01:44
Michael Scherer wrote:
Can you please tell to me that the security hole discovered this morning
is closed ?
Check your Cooker mirror whether it already caught up
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de Frederic Lepied, à Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 00:02
9.1 is gone to production. In the name of MandrakeSoft engineering
team, I would like to thank all the cookers for the great help you
provided to build this
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de Stefan van der Eijk, à Mardi 18 Mars 2003 00:52
yeah... if the BuildRequires would be correct. Major hurdle here...
Well, on the other hand, you will see immediatly if the buildrequires are
wrong...
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Le Dimanche 16 Mars 2003 16:31, El Gringo ( aka Greg Meyer ) a écrit :
On Sunday 16 March 2003 10:28 am, Spencer wrote:
Hi all,
I have a fantastic looking and running ML9.1 on this desktop. Does anyone
know what the code name is going to be?
Pheonix would be appropriate
Was thinking the
Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 05:36, El Gringo ( aka Quel Qun ) a écrit :
MandrakeLinux-Cooker-4.i586 mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.1-2mdk.noarch
MandrakeLinux-Cooker-4.i586 mandrake_doc-drakxtools-es-9.1-2mdk.noarch
MandrakeLinux-Cooker-4.i586 mandrake_doc-drakxtools-fr-9.1-2mdk.noarch
What about
Hey.. I'm USian (virtually no French tho, sorry), but that'd be a reason
for me to SUPPORT Mdk. Sometimes, being the good guy means you have to let
the other guy shoot first, even if that means the bullet might be nuclear.
I see no need to go back in for war at this point, and if we do, I
And of course neither french fries nor french toast have a thing to
do with France. In the first case, IIRC, the dish in question
originated in Belgium
Are you sure sure ?
Some cooking books of my grand mother said it comes from Paris, near the Pont
Neuf in 1890.
They may not be right, but,
Wow, I'm sure you don't use mbox. My Cooker folder becomes unusable at
1000 messages and I have to delete stuff.
Mine work fine on a 13000 messages mbox. For Cooker and with Kmail
But I had some problem when sorting message, since I am always low on disk
space ( documents are like gaz, they
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 00:56, El Gringo ( aka Austin ) a écrit :
Two or three times a day I think to myself:
URPMI IS MANDRAKE'S MOST UNDERRATED FEATURE!
And unfortunately, nobody knows this, and Mandrake doesn't advertise urpmi
per se.
When I think Mandrake, I think: Debian done right!.
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 12:04, El Gringo ( aka Guillaume Rousse ) a écrit :
Ainsi parlait Michael Scherer :
Very effective, everybody who read Linux Magazine France know that
apt-get is so cool
http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/linux/urpmi.html for instance ?
Yes, exactly what I
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 14:26, El Gringo ( aka Buchan Milne ) a écrit :
Of course, it would have to be decided which documentation (all, none,
some?) would be available only to club members. But it could be
something along the lines that all cooker/bug testing etc docs are free,
really good
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 20:52, El Gringo ( aka Sascha Noyes ) a écrit :
Steffen Barszus actually posted a message to cooker yesterday asking the
mandrake people how they envision the community helping them with the
hardware database ... and got no answer.
They will answer, just not now, since I
Le Lundi 10 Mars 2003 21:23, El Gringo ( aka Buchan Milne ) a écrit :
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:25, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
File dialog is one legitimate problem, it's well known and well
discussed, and is in the works for GNOME 2.4. No-one can agree on
exactly what
I think maybe keeping milestone snapshots of cooker would be a good
thing. These would be less stable than the betas but more stable than
Cooker, thus encouraging more to test out packages that are still in
development. It would also provide more flexibility; if, late in the
devcycle of a
Le Dimanche 9 Mars 2003 22:22, El Gringo ( aka Andi Payn ) a écrit :
Of course if Mandrake links to his page, they already have that extra-link
safety--but if they want to host his document directly, they don't. And,
more vaguely, not mentioning PLF in his document allows Mandrake to host it
Newer package in PLF (yanc-0.2.0-2plf.src.rpm) Austin, is there a reason
why it cannot be in contrib? Other NVidia-specific software is in
contrib: yanc in club only as yanc-0.1.4-1mdk.src.rpm
It's made with Kylix.
Lenny said anything that we can't compile with gcc can't go in contribs.
/home/misc $ urpmf tutor.vim
vim-common:/usr/share/doc/vim-common-6.1/tutor/tutor.vim
vim-common:/usr/share/vim/tutor/tutor.vim
vim-common:/usr/share/vim/tutor/tutor.vim
multiple packages installation ?
multiples sources of installation, i had some problem with some mirrors.
The
Perhaps leave the image on the mirrors of the tree but not include it on
the CD would work?
On the CD it is nearly for free since it's contained in the
network.img.
On the cd, it is not so useful, since the whole point is for not downloading
the cd, but to install it from the web...
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Le Vendredi 14 Février 2003 21:01, Warly a écrit :
Michael Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have take a look at the groups classification of some package with
rpmdrake, and I have seen there is a big lack of consistency.
To give a simple example :
Should wmnetload
The two, I think.
A bug can be a KDE bug, or it can be a mail related bug.
But, to cross post he bug will generate noise on one of the two list
I really don't see how a bug in anything but a server (in which case the
group is known) would affect both mutt and kmail, unless it was a
But I agree that's not a solution, else we'll soon have more packages in
PLF than in regular mdk... Did someone already complain about BitchX ?
Well, I don't see why, after all, it has no meaning in other language .
We cannot be sure that 'talk' is not offensive in some obscur language, no ?
I would recommend using a Wiki, just like the one we have for internal
engineering. It's easy to install, manage, and very low on resources.
What's more, anyone can create a topic and link it to a project page.
Each group could have a separate mailing list. This way, I wouldn't have
30,000
Le Mercredi 12 Février 2003 21:09, Buchan Milne a écrit :
But, it will take a lot of time to choose the groups of each package
All packages have groups, and are probably close enough to be used:
rpm -qa --qf '%{GROUP}\t%{NAME}\n'|sort
So, what should be the name pf the group talking of
So, what should be the name pf the group talking of kmail ?
Networking-Mail or Graphical_desktop-KDE ?
Does it belong with mutt or with knode and lisa etc?
The two, I think.
A bug can be a KDE bug, or it can be a mail related bug.
But, to cross post he bug will generate noise on one of the
I have take a look at the groups classification of some package with rpmdrake,
and I have seen there is a big lack of consistency.
To give a simple example :
Should wmnetload be in the GraphicalDesktop/WindowMaker group, or in the
Monitoring group ?
This is a wm applet who monitor the network.
We'll need a Kids group eventually. Is there any good
alphabet-learning programs or such?
If this is a real question, here is a real answer :
Gcompris , has a activty for alphabet-learning ( Click on the book at first
page, and try some activities )
Oh, and by the way, congratulations.
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So, here is my list so far: gcompris, tuxpaint, childsplay and
ktuberling. Anything else I have missed?
There is also TuxTyping, but i don't know if it still alive (
http://www.geekcomix.com/dm/tuxtype ).
There is also some french website on linux and education, such as
There is also some french website on linux and education, such as
www.education.free.fr, and other, but I can't remember their URLs.
Here it is : http://ofset.sourceforge.net/
( was in the GCompris about box )
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Mickaël Scherer
We don't have guidelines for rpm,
We do, it's just not updated.
The mdk-rpm howto could be more precise. We can do rpms with this, of course,
but, I have always found not-so-easy rpm. I had to figure by myself by
loooking at others spec.
no information is given on how to become
You miss of course some of the work Austin and others do on the
Mandrake Club (on the club-volunteers list).
Not a club member, sorry.
Guess what: contributing to the club as a volunteer will get you a free
membership... just ask Deno!
Well, this is not advertised, and,I think the
Thank you to reply, but can you add it in TODO or WISHLIST? Or in the
list of future possibilities? Can you test it?
Warly said that it would be great to have this ( a TODO list shared for the
distro )
And he is right.
That way, people will see this will be done in the future, or if someone
I never proposed any kind of fork.
Yes, you already said that, as everyone should have seen.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=104457720609404w=2
A fork is not even possible. Only a fool could even dream to do a work as good
as done by Chmouel, Warly and all the Mandrake
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 01:13, Gustavo Franco a écrit :
But, I don't think we need to be a carbon copie of Debian.
Debian is not the only volunteers OS project, everybody seems to forget
FreeBSD, and other, or even some smalls os, such as AtheOs, OpenBeOS, and
others, who don't work in
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 10:47, Michael Scherer a écrit :
OpenBSD team release CDs each 6 month, as said before. They maintain the
four last release.
Well, a small mistake, they maintain two previous release.
ie, actually, 3.1 and 3.2.
--
Michaël Scherer
But can you run Mandrake on more than ten architectures?
Well, if it was the main reason to use a Debian instead of another distro, we
should all be using NetBSD...
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Michaël Scherer
Read the documentation, here:
http://www.openbsd.org/porting.html
Well, I just missed this one.
That is the problem to work when there is too much people in a small room.
Mandrake as a new project inside Debian.But it was refused here, many feels
involved.But if you change the original
If it was accepted, can you explain what we would do ?
We've two scenarios here:
1) Mandrake as a new subproject:
If accepted, you can contact Debian developers through two MLs:
debian-project and debian-devel.To discuss about a internal merge
with Desktop subproject or not and others
So , merging the differences would not be interesting, for all the works
it represent.
Yes, but we can share our experiences.
Well, of course, I agree at 100 % .
But I really hope that nobody has waited this discussion to do so.
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Michaël Scherer
Dell Inspiron 8200 P4 Nvidia video... what all info do you need /
want about the system ?
I think this laptop is not compatible with acpi.
A friend of mine have it, and still run with APM.
Well, this may have changed since last month, of course ;)
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Michaël Scherer
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
Well, I think, for the good of all
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 00:50, Austin Acton a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:38, Michael Scherer wrote:
We also need to support equaly contribs and main, don't you think ?
Well, the problem is Mandrake says publicly we fully support the
packages in main, but not in contribs so they do
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 01:16, Austin Acton a écrit :
1. Is there any hope of MandrakeSoft adopting a plan like this?
Since the beginning of the thread was Warly's post, I hope MandrakeSoft will
adopt this plan. After all, nobody talk about this after Ben Reser's post on
Slashdot (
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 12:35, Han Boetes a écrit :
Michael Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just take a look at the discussion for Maildir in /etc/skel, which
involves changes in main. If there is a distinction between developers,
because some of them have control on main
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 18:04, Gustavo Franco a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 20:28, Michael Scherer wrote:
Well, we could try something like morethan one developper per package.
Actually, in Debian, only the packager can change something.
If you take a look to the changelog of any
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 19:51, John Goerzen a écrit :
I would like to try to offer a bit of insight
on what Debian has done right, what Debian has done wrong, and perhaps
explore some areas Debian can work together with the Mandrake
community in the future.
You 're welcome.
I also like
The difference must be who is a mandrake developer and who is not, and
forget who is mandrakesoft employee and who is not.
We should stive to create a TWO tier system
Developer
User
This sounds great, so , now, what is the definition of a developer ?
I propose ( as a draft ) someone
This sounds great, so , now, what is the definition of a developer ?
One who contributes tangible material to the distro. Software,
documentation, detailed bug-reports, graphics.
I propose ( as a draft ) someone having write access to some part of the
distribution, this will include
But demand high quality for what they deliver. Otherwise, send it back.
Well, of course.
Peer reviews, but this would say tht some developpers hav more power than
others.
All developers should be treated as equals, but, some of them should be team
chief , or something like that...
How do
Windows has automatic update to, which nobody uses because microsoft is
known to release patches that will make your computer stop working
No, Microsoft is known to release software that will make your computer stop
working.
So, their patches only correct the buggy software who do not crash.
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 21:53, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
The installation program of Mandrake Linux currently supports
installing from local network adapters through a PPPoE ADSL
account.
Since we're much lacking diskspace on boot floppies, and since
I've heard zero news from people
Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 12:57, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like
WinSCP, cygwin, etc?
i don't belive that's our job to develop for others OS than the one we
create :-).
No, the fact
Not even mentioning the fact that people has never put much
confidence in ntfs.o (hum, there even was a time when it
corrupted partitions mounted ro, isn't it?).
Well, all I can say that ntfs work perfectly for me.
I never had any problem to read, and even one time to write ( you know, you
But why is it necessary to change the perms of the devices ??
This should be only a matter of groups.
For example /dev/mixer should always belong to root:audio with perms
crw-rw, and a user should be in the group audio.
So even ater login, the /dev entry has not been changed, but only
I think it's a good thing to package it like any other GTK theme.
I understand what you want though. But imo it would only make sense if you
select Keramik in Kcontrol and decide to have other apps follow that theme,
maybe then it should setup Geramik as default GTK theme. Not when simply
Anyway, how does debian handle this mess? (I'm asking because debian
users usually brag about how they only need to install once)
Right, this, and how it is easy to type apt-get install foobar ;-)
First, since Debian has more expert users than Mandrake, they are able to
handle the problem,
I don't know any other software company that ships their official,
commercial software distribution on CDs650MB.
I had just take the first CD that was on my desk :
Starcraft Brood War
/home/misc $ df | grep cdrom
/dev/cdrom684M 684M 0 100% /mnt/cdrom
Date back to 98. I have
Le Mardi 7 Janvier 2003 20:13, Buchan Milne a écrit :
J.P. Pasnak wrote:
Yes, a very good reason. I was planning on switching all my servers
over to apache2 over the holidays, but I got Starcraft working in Wine,
so out went that plan :)
Would yo like to enlighten us how (or should we
Le Lundi 6 Janvier 2003 20:53, Austin Acton a écrit :
Hey,
Zope 2.6.0 is out, and the folks over at Polish Linux have it compiling
with Python 2.2. As far as I can tell, there's only a one-line patch.
It think redoing our old zope RPM is a bit over my head, but I've
attached the PLD's
Le Jeudi 12 Décembre 2002 21:36, Austin Acton a écrit :
Has anyone thought of packaging Batik? It's GPL, and the source (java)
is available... so I assume if it will compile with a GPL java compiler
Already done by the jpackage project :
http://jpackage.zarb.org/rpm.php?id=364
Mick
The problem is that currently there is no such mechanism to
dynamically load extensions/mode for vim like we do for emacs as per
packages.
Hum, what about
autocmd BufRead *.spec source ~/.vim/rpm_mode
this run the command 'source ~/.vim/rpm_mode', which , obviouly, apply the
command from
It looks like a useful program. If we can have a package called BitchX, I
don't know why we can't have pornview. Just my $ .02.
I think because of this picture :
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pornview/pornview/src/pixmaps/logo.png?rev=1.1.1.1
This is the logo.
Mick
hi
I've submitted in incoming a spec file for fenris, a very powerful debugger.
Mick
It click inspect and it shows my /etc/samba/smb.conf and
/etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmsave, whereas shouldn't it be using
/etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmnew (since this file is %config(noreplace)). I
have a /etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmsave from a previous uninstall, which
might be confusing it (bug?).
Since
Is there an echo in here?
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=103180266303247w=2
oh, i should have know, all my good ideas have already be suggested, or
implemented.
one other idea, is that we may put every config file in cvs.
when we upgrade a package = cvs commit.
something
Mandrake currently ships several things that walk the fine line of
licensing. Perfect example of this is the mp3 decoders included in the
distribution. It is unclear if Mandrake should have to pay royalties on
every CD it ships (though I think free downloads it is clear that they
would
one other idea, is that we may put every config file in cvs.
Like this:
http://jamsb.austms.org.au/cdrom/images/S2_2002/Blue/USQ/csc2405/sysad-doc/
sysad-doc/indexf.html
Exactly what i said .
I have talked about this idea with a friend after seeing someone who put his
home in CVS ( Linux
Are we really OK with the license and co ?
I heard that debian won't put it int their tree, because of the licence.
But, I do not exactlly where is the problem.
I will ask.
Mick
Hi
I have just uploaded the file lea-book.spec, which create a rpm with the
documentation of the web site lea-linux.org, a very good source of
documentation ( in french only ).
Mick
2 ) since this is only in french, how should i deal with this ?
Should i translate the menu files, or do it elsewhere ?
Not sure on this one. I would assume that it's safe for the menu
entries to be in French if the package only contains French
documentation.
Well, yes, of course.
but,
hi .
I have written a .spec file for Mandrake 9.0 for some french documentation on
linux ( lea-linux.org ), and I have some small questions.
1 ) to launch it in the menu, i use the $BROWSER var, but, can I be sure that
this is set ? I didn't found it in /etc, but i havn't look everywhere...
2
Take a look to 3ddesktop : http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/
It's innovative, but is it actually useful?
It works great on my 3d hologram projector ;)
The same model used in Starwars. :)
To be serious 5 seconds.
It provides a visual feedback when a user changes of desktop ( as enligthment
I still have troubles with supermount, even in kernel2.4.20-0.1. It
has never correctly worked in 2.4.19 but was always fine with 2.4.18.
The problems are that if I access a file (like listenning to a mp3
with xmms) then after few seconds all the other files are missing. I
have to eject the
I think a more feature based software strategy could be better, no ?
Yes, you are right, but, then this is the problem of one apps for one task.
This is exactly what Microsoft is doing, and we all now that the end user will
not take a look at the alternatives, even if it is better.
I don't
IN konqueror, licq and other programs almost all my fonts apear as a
square. No real characters.
I had the same problem when I upgraded 8.2 to 9.0.
It was a probleme of permission on the directory where the fonts were.
( /usr/share/fonts, i think, correct me if i am wrong )
Just give read acess
Hello? quicktime movie in powerpoint? Do you never give presentations
which need animations? Engineering shops need this.
I'm sorry, I 'm just a student. And I do presentations, but never so
sophisticated.
DivX could also be useful in this regard, and I am sure there are
business
Can we possibly get some poeple together to maintain this? Would a Wiki
(or something similar) work? Could we extract it as static html to go in
a package (and get it into main)?
For documentation, another good idea would be to have localized book mark.
there is good french sites on linux, but
But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible,
thanks to
movie maker.
Not impossible, just illegal in some countries. It's legal here (for
example).
Mmh, when you say some coutry, you speaks of this country just below Canada ?
This country who arrest people in some
By talking of university, is the free software situation as bad in my old
school ?
We only had Windows NT, and some old sparc station.
And some students in a engineer school in France were not happy about
that situation, ( in their school ).
not sure about the hardware, but I know one
The point is Mandrake wants to make money, therefore they need bigger
install base, therefore they need to make windows users transfer to linux,
therefore what keeps windows users from using linux, therefore try to
imagine what do we need to add or change.
If you want to do money, i think it
Therefore, there is no need for all these fancy multimedia application.
Some real businesses need multi-media. We do (animations from
simulations). In fact, that's probably one of the big reasons we don't
make more use of OpenOffice, and have to use Powerpoint for some
presentations.
I
actually, flash / quicktime are the best multimedia tools for selling,
they make powerpoint presentations look backwards and clunky.
the fancy multimedia is where the prospective clients will be wowed
into buying your service / product.
you put together such a fantastic presentation your
I use drakconf-themes-9.0-6.2mdkplf
drakconf-themes install 2 theme, but kde theme nor gnome theme works.
And crash mcc
It seem that at least one file is missing :
resolution-mdk.png
In fact, all these file are missing
./resolution-mdk.png
./tv-mdk.png
./webdav-mdk.png
./drakperm-mdk.png
So it is actally a PLF RPM, not really maintained, contact the
maintainer and author, http://damz.net (IIRC).
There was no mention of the authors in the summarry.
But, if you click on get new themes, you have the website.
Sorry, I should have look earlier.
I think that is is important to have
I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing:
like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... ,
shortcut to my Document
networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)...
User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to
On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to
Macromedia, I mean, if you are honest.
search : http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=flash+macromediasection=projects
Oh, i'm sorry, I didn't reread my mail, i ve said that you can't do flash
without paying.
And, in fact, it is not
reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as
simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows
versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet.
ntfs is ready on read only, i use it on a daily basis, no problem.
I even get it to write one day (
No, I would have booted up to do the upgrades... remember, I'm the guy
that has a long-standing wish for the ability to install *while* running
the current distro -- see http://pfortin.com/Linux/live_install.html for
an 8.0 install on a running system (this was done with some minor mods to
can I use urpmi in the same way as debian use apt-get upgrade ?
Yes, you can. ISTR some new RPM macros introduced sometime after 8.0,
so that could limit the ability to do that, but that's the only
limitation I can possibly see.
I mean, apt-get dist-upgrade ( which seems to be the same as
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