Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-12 Thread Buchan Milne
Richard Houser wrote: As I understand it, Mandrake's policy is that the download edition only contains free software (as in open source with few if any exceptions). No more exceptions. The NVidia drivers are not provided in a source format (they consist largly of pre-compiled object code),

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-11 Thread Richard Houser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 dcd wrote: | Hi, |I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free | download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d is | so poor in the standard edition. | dcd | | Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: | | Adam

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Philip Webb
020909 Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 20:12, Buchan Milne wrote: AFAIK, this option (3d acceleration for 3.x) only appears in an expert install off the GPL edition, so IMHO, the user asked to be treated like an expert. Experimental should be good enough? Ah, in that case it's

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: (13) 3D acceleration: whatever does this refer to? why would 3.3.6 give 3D, but not 4.2.0, and why is it experimental? There is no free software 3d acceleration for nvidia in XFree-4,

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 10:09, Philip Webb wrote: i've been using Mandrake for 2 years ( 6.1 , 8.0 briefly, 8.2 , 9.0rc1 ), but i have no idea what the strengths or weaknesses of 3.3.6 4.2.0 are. Well, here's a quick summary - 4.2.0 is good, and 3.3.6 is rubbish. There may be a test later.

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 10:51, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: (13) 3D acceleration: whatever does this refer to? why would 3.3.6 give 3D, but not 4.2.0, and why is it experimental?

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread john.allen
Quoting Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 020909 Adam Williamson wrote: as the subscriber who first raised this, i can only agree with 1st-time AW. there are degrees of expertise, very wide ones: i've been using Mandrake for 2 years ( 6.1 , 8.0 briefly, 8.2 , 9.0rc1 ), but i have no

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Mardi 10 Septembre 2002 13:23, dcd a écrit : Hi, I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d is so poor in the standard edition. Do you ever heard mdk policy about software licenses ? BTW,

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Mardi 10 Septembre 2002 13:23, dcd a écrit : Hi, I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d is so poor in the standard edition. Do you ever

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread dcd
Ooops! damn foot in mouth again. Rephrase that, to what I meant, instead of what I said. (Yes I do know the definition of FREE ) Wouldn't it be a better policy to refer people to, or notify them of, the availability of the Nvidea 3D drivers, and install the current XFree86 4.2.. drivers

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Mardi 10 Septembre 2002 15:43, Götz Waschk a écrit : Am Dienstag, 10. September 2002, 20:53:45 Uhr MET, schrieb dcd: I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d is so poor in the standard

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-10 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 10. September 2002, 20:53:45 Uhr MET, schrieb dcd: I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d is so poor in the standard edition. You are either a troll or you don't understand the

[Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: (13) 3D acceleration: whatever does this refer to? why would 3.3.6 give 3D, but not 4.2.0, and why is it experimental? There is no free software 3d acceleration for nvidia in XFree-4, while there was an experimental one in

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-09 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: | On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: | Personally I think this section should be changed to make it *REALLY* | clear that X 3.3.6 really isn't recommended. The wording here could well | lead a newbie to

Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install

2002-09-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 20:12, Buchan Milne wrote: AFAIK, this option (3d acceleration for 3.x) only appears in an expert install off the GPL edition, so IMHO, the user asked to be treated like an expert. Experimental should be good enough? Ah, in that case it's less of an issue - wasn't aware