Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-07-10 Thread Ben Reser
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:49:30PM +0200, Marcel Pol wrote: I also have an oldworld PowerMac 185 Mhz, 96 Mb ram. It's mostly too slow to compile anything, but it does run cooker. I believe Ben Reser has a few ppc machines, but I don't know if he runs cooker on it. I've tried to run cooker on

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-09 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sun Jun 08, 2003 at 09:49:20AM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Also, don't forget updates. Unless the people who build these ports are willing to maintain a system/chroot/whatever dedicated for 18mos for building updates for these ports, it won't happen. As Stefan says, making this stuff

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
But, we might be getting to the point where we actually need a cooker extranet. For example, I would like to be able to remove build output on an automated build host to get a package rebuilt, but we wouldn't want anyone to be able to remove build output ... It seems installer need works

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
IMHO Releasing means supporting. supporting a product requires an organisation and knowledge being available. It also needs to be worthwhile -- bring some $$$ to the company. For the alpha, mips, pa-risc and sparc the market is too small. Since I'm more or less the maintainer of the alpha

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Marcel Pol
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 09:36:05 +0200 Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment, to my knowledge we have the following machines _dedicated_ to non-intel cooker development (please, developers, fill in all blanks): Alpha - 2 x XP1000 - CSC still 7.1b - need help with this - 1

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-Intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Jaroslaw Zachwieja
Hello, Thanks for the feedback on the idea. Now, I would like to summarise some points that aroused in your replies. 1) MandrakeSoft might be reluctant to take the non-Intel ports under it's wings. This of course makes sense (as Stefan noticed, support = money, and we cannot ask the company

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-Intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Michael Scherer
2) We (the community) have resources to keep the cooker tree up to date, with exception of Drak* tools. Not all, only the ones who deals with the hardware. However with more machines to rebuild packages (and with centralised and automated extranet) we may be able to make it for the next

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-Intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Per yvind Karlsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 June 2003 15:59, Michael Scherer wrote: and, when you say a extranet, do you mean some kind of vpn, with access for the community ? if so, then using a crosscompiler and , maybe distcc will allow to have more ressources avaliaible, but

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-Intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Jaroslaw Zachwieja
On nie 8. czerwca 2003 14:59, Michael Scherer wrote: However with more machines to rebuild packages (and with centralised and automated extranet) we may be able to make it for the next release. what about using a cross compiler ? If done properly, people just have to install a rpm on a

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-Intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Yes, by extranet, I meant VPN. And as you can see, we already have distcc working on the sparcs. (Thanks Per Oyvind! :) Mhh, do you think that distcc could work on a vpn ? isn't there some issues about the bandwidth ? BTW, What are our options for building the VPN? IP-IP, IP-GRE (easy to

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-07 Thread Stew Benedict
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Jaroslaw Zachwieja wrote: At the moment, to my knowledge we have the following machines _dedicated_ to non-intel cooker development (please, developers, fill in all blanks): PPC - 1 x ?? - Olivier Thauvin - others? I've let Olivier take over cooker PPC

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-07 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Jaroslaw Zachwieja wrote: But, we might be getting to the point where we actually need a cooker extranet. For example, I would like to be able to remove build output on an automated build host to get a package rebuilt, but we wouldn't want anyone to be able to remove build output ... Well,

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-07 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Samedi 07 Juin 2003 20:55, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit : Jaroslaw Zachwieja wrote: But, we might be getting to the point where we actually need a cooker extranet. For example, I would like to be able to remove build output on an automated build host to get a package rebuilt, but we

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-07 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sat Jun 07, 2003 at 08:55:46PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: IMHO Releasing means supporting. supporting a product requires an organisation and knowledge being available. It also needs to be worthwhile -- bring some $$$ to the company. For the alpha, mips, pa-risc and sparc the

Re: [Cooker] Development extranet for non-intel builds [ALPHA:SPARC:PPC:X86_64]

2003-06-06 Thread bgmilne
Well, SPARC's (and at some point Alpha and Opteron 240 SMP) at CSC are on private network behind 9.1 i586 box. I can't see anything that should stop us from creating the extranet and have the builds automated and coordinated. Some centralised user authentication might be a good idea at