Re: What EV certs are good for

2009-01-28 Thread Ben Laurie
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:14 AM, William Soley william.so...@sun.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Jerry Leichter wrote:

 It might be useful to put together a special-purpose HTTPS client which
 would initiate a connection and tell you about the cert returned, then exit.

 I use ...

openssl s_client -connect www.whatever.com:443 -showcerts

 Ships with Mac OS, Solaris, Linux, etc.

And to use TOR, put torify on the front. Having run the tor server, of course.

Except on MacOS, where torify doesn't (can't? Does anyone know better) work.

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Re: What EV certs are good for

2009-01-28 Thread John Levine
 I just received a phishing email, allegedly from HSBC:

Dear HSBC Member,

So did the link have a EV cert?

Hardly matters.  HSBC has vast numbers of web servers all over the world,
some with EV certs, some without.

For example, their US customer site for deposit customers at
https://www.us.hsbc.com/ doesn't, but their site for credit cards at
https://www.hsbccreditcard.com/ does, although it's kind of hard to
tell because they tend to put you on a non-https page until you log
in.

R's,
John

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Re: What EV certs are good for

2009-01-27 Thread Ben Laurie
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote:
 I just received a phishing email, allegedly from HSBC:

Dear HSBC Member,

Due to the high number of fraud attempts and phishing scams, it has been
 decided to
implement EV SSL Certification on this Internet Banking website.

The use of EV SSL certification works with high security Web browsers to
 clearly
identify whether the site belongs to the company or is another site
 imitating that
company's site

 (I hope I haven't quoted enough to trigger someone's spam detectors!)
  Needless to say, the message goes on to suggest clicking on a link to
 update your account.

So did the link have a EV cert?

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Re: What EV certs are good for

2009-01-27 Thread William Soley

On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Jerry Leichter wrote:
It might be useful to put together a special-purpose HTTPS client  
which would initiate a connection and tell you about the cert  
returned, then exit.


I use ...

openssl s_client -connect www.whatever.com:443 -showcerts

Ships with Mac OS, Solaris, Linux, etc.

-Bill

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Re: What EV certs are good for

2009-01-27 Thread The Fungi
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 09:04:45AM -0500, Jerry Leichter wrote:
[...]
 It might be useful to put together a special-purpose HTTPS client
 which would initiate a connection and tell you about the cert
 returned, then exit.
[...]

I often use this (though there's probably an easier way)...

echo|openssl s_client -connect www.example.com:https|openssl x509 -text

Quick and dirty, but gets the job done.
-- 
{ IRL(Jeremy_Stanley); PGP(9E8DFF2E4F5995F8FEADDC5829ABF7441FB84657);
SMTP(fu...@yuggoth.org); IRC(fu...@irc.yuggoth.org#ccl); ICQ(114362511);
AIM(dreadazathoth); YAHOO(crawlingchaoslabs); FINGER(fu...@yuggoth.org);
MUD(fu...@katarsis.mudpy.org:6669); WWW(http://fungi.yuggoth.org/); }

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What EV certs are good for

2009-01-25 Thread Jerry Leichter

I just received a phishing email, allegedly from HSBC:

Dear HSBC Member,

Due to the high number of fraud attempts and phishing scams, it  
has been decided to

implement EV SSL Certification on this Internet Banking website.

The use of EV SSL certification works with high security Web  
browsers to clearly
identify whether the site belongs to the company or is another  
site imitating that

company's site

(I hope I haven't quoted enough to trigger someone's spam detectors!)   
Needless to say, the message goes on to suggest clicking on a link to  
update your account.


-- Jerry


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