Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 01:57 AM 7/10/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- on 7/10/02 12:57 AM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 11:50 PM 7/9/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yes. Them too. Any sort of fundamentalist. Good science is not a fundamentalist movement. It s

Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: InfoWarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:57 AM 7/10/02 , you wrote: on 7/10/02 12:57 AM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:50 PM 7/9/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yes. Them too. Any sort of fundamentalist. Good science is not a

Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Yahoo! News Story - Gnutella Developer Gene Kan, 25, Commits Suicide

2002-07-10 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- Yahoo! News - Gnutella Developer Gene Kan, 25, Commits Suicidehe wasn't a napster dude. he was a Gnutella dude. napster sold out anyway to bertlesman (sp.?) and has appointed the original creator as ceo. or something. so the corporates achieved what they wanted without murder. i

Re: [CTRL] LAX Shooting: Daniel Pipes: A 'work dispute' at LAX?

2002-07-10 Thread Nurev Ind
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] LAX Shooting: Daniel Pipes: A 'work dispute' at LAX? -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/9/02 7:10:19 PM Central Daylight

Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- If you want to abandon current usage of language, it makes it hard to have discussions on meaning. on 7/10/02 2:44 AM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 01:57 AM 7/10/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- on 7/10/02 12:57 AM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[CTRL] ...it's going to explode...

2002-07-10 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- "The word is, it's going to explode again," he says. "All we need is a dumb cop to come out here and do a stupid thing like shoot one of us or beat one of us and then it's on. The cop will be the valve that lets it go." Ted Hayes onLA, Tuesday, 30 April, 2002.

[CTRL] ...over and above the just sort of normal by-the-book auditing arrangement.

2002-07-10 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- "I get good advice, if you will, from their people based upon how we're doing business and how we're operating over and above the just sort of normal by-the-book auditing arrangement." Dick Cheney on Andersen, 1996 arf.

Re: [CTRL] ...it's going to explode...

2002-07-10 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/10/02 8:31:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All we need is a dumb cop to come out here and do a stupid thing like shoot one of us or beat one of us and then it's on. The cop will be the valve that lets it go. Aaah, yes. They are going to burn their

Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Yahoo! News Story - Gnutella Developer Gene Kan, 25, Commits Suicide

2002-07-10 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- like i said, in the realms of the sciences, the powers that be, whoever they are, prefer to embrace the talent rahter than kill it.. even if the talent will not come onside, there is always more to be had from watching and listening, much more benefit. anyway... he was working

[CTRL] evil nwo british government wants me to be stoned all the time

2002-07-10 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- oh no! the evil nwo british government wants me to be stoned all the time so it can control me and take away my (somewhat nonexistant) rights. um... sounds good to me... joy! let the the coffeeshops commence...

Re: [CTRL] An Israeli officer's response to Bush

2002-07-10 Thread Party of Citizens
-Caveat Lector- This problem was created by the UN and IMO it must be solved as aggressively by the UN. Aggression for peace? Of course. Police officers use aggression to keep the peace every day. The UN should take both sides back to the original borders and conditions which started this horror

[CTRL] FW: Good one! Lessons from The Fourth of July in Greensboro

2002-07-10 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. Edward R. Murrow

[CTRL] conference information

2002-07-10 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Below please find information about our upcoming conference. If you'd like to, please feel free to send the information below the dotted line to anyone you think may be interested. Thanks. Sincerely, Neil - Hi ! This summer's conference will be soon, in mid-August.

[CTRL] Dairy Queen to sell irradiated beef

2002-07-10 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- Dairy Queen to sell irradiated beef The Associated Press EDINA, Minn. (July 9, 2002 10:40 p.m. EDT) - International Dairy Queen will begin serving irradiated ground beef at several Twin Cities stores this week. By next week, irradiated beef will be available in 43 Minnesota

[CTRL] EMPEROR'S CLOTHES INTERVIEWS UNOCAL OIL

2002-07-10 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- URL for this article: http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/lane.htm Join our email list at http://emperors-clothes.com/f.htm. Receive articles from Emperor's Clothes Website, www.tenc.net === EMPEROR'S CLOTHES INTERVIEWS UNOCAL OIL

[CTRL] Andersen Video Puts Cheney on Spot

2002-07-10 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0710-01.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_2119000/2119981.stm Published on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 by the BBC Andersen Video Puts Cheney on Spot It has emerged in the United States that Vice-President Dick Cheney took

Re: [CTRL] The BUSHARON Global War

2002-07-10 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/8/02 11:42:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush wants a strong and deterring Israel during the attack on Iraq, first of all because Sadam Hussein might bomb Tel-Aviv, as he did in 1991, and then Sharon will surely join the war.

Re: [CTRL] Helms: Israeli Attack On USS Liberty No Accident

2002-07-10 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/8/02 12:00:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard, the group's executive director. SURVIVORS ALLEGE CONSPIRACY Many Liberty survivors and their supporters long have maintained that the attack was deliberate and that the Kidd

[CTRL] US Wants to be Free to Rape Kill and Massacre Civilians

2002-07-10 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20020710-69490756.htm U.S. expects ICC exemptions By Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMES NEW YORK — A U.S. official said yesterday that he expects to find before a Monday deadline enough U.N. Security Council votes to exempt most U.S

[CTRL] The Rogue State

2002-07-10 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=16764 The rogue state By John Pilger For 101 days, Royal Marines have been engaged in a farcical operation as mercenaries of the United States whose lawlessness now qualifies it as the world's leading rogue state. Shooting at shadows, and

[CTRL] BSE risk over chicken

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/bse/article/0,2763,751304,00.html }}}Begin BSE risk over chicken injected with beef Felicity Lawrence, consumer affairs correspondent Monday July 8, 2002 The Guardian Vast quantities of frozen chicken adulterated with beef protein powder, which

[CTRL] Programme of the new Dutch

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From WSWS }}}Begin World Socialist Web Site www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe Programme of the new Dutch government: xenophobia, welfare cuts and a stronger state By Wolfgang Weber 10 July 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author Six

[CTRL] Dutch inquiry into Muslim population

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,751813,00.html }}}Begin Human rights fears at Dutch inquiry into Muslim population Andrew Osborn Tuesday July 9, 2002 The Guardian Concerned that the country may have become a hotbed of Islamist fundamentalism, the

[CTRL] Blair to head GM campaign

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/07/09/ngm09.xmlsSh eet=/news/2002/07/09/ixnewstop.html }}}Begin Blair to head GM campaign By Andy McSmith, Chief Political Correspondent (Filed: 09/07/2002) Tony Blair is to lead a three-pronged campaign to win

[CTRL] Limbaugh in a Rush to Lie

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.bushwatch.net/brew.htm }}}Begin Pants On Fire © July 9, 2002 The Daily Brew Why did corporate America decide it was OK to lie to their investors, the SEC, and the public? How did corporate America get the idea that they could tell huge whoppers without getting

[CTRL] The CEOnistas

2002-07-10 Thread Party of Citizens
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:10:25 -0700 From: David Ingram at the CEN-TA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [INGRAM] REMAINING U.S. CEOs MAKE A BREAK FOR IT-- Thought that you might like

[CTRL] (Fwd) FC: Politech challenge: Decode Al Qaeda stego-communicat

2002-07-10 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- --- From: Richard M. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Calling all amateur codebreakers Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:49:45 -0400 Hi, USA Today just ran an article about Al Qaeda allegedly using steganography to

Re: [CTRL] conference information

2002-07-10 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- Howdy Neil, Sorry I have been busy, onre of our authors, Antony sutton passed on and there has been much to take care fo. Did I already register, just hadn't paid any fees? High Times is just now sending me a contract so then they will send me some money to pay you. does the

Re: [CTRL] An Israeli officer's response to Bush

2002-07-10 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Why should the side that rejected the plan from the 40's be rewarded as if they had followed it in the 1st place? .. Or rewarded for attacking again in '67? .. Or 73? on 7/10/02 1:17 PM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This problem was created by the UN and

Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 10:53 AM 7/10/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- If you want to abandon current usage of language, it makes it hard to have discussions on meaning. I think I have been using the current usage. Current Usage of language: fun·da·men·tal Function: adjective 1 a : serving as an

Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The definition in question was fundamentalist, not fundamental. on 7/10/02 6:43 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 10:53 AM 7/10/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- If you want to abandon current usage of language, it makes it hard to have

[CTRL] Laser-armed Humvee to blast mines

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2528 Laser-armed Humvee to blast mines 19:00 10 July 02 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition An armoured car fitted with powerful laser beam designed to blast landmines and cluster bomblets from the battlefield will

Re: [CTRL] Fisk: Threat To Liberty From New Fundamentalism

2002-07-10 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 07:16 PM 7/10/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- The definition in question was fundamentalist, not fundamental. Well, that is the root word of fundamentalist. But if you insist: Fundamentalist: A person who collects, monies, funds, and resources to help out one who is two

Re: [CTRL] LAX Shooting: Daniel Pipes: A 'work dispute' at LAX?

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/10/02 8:18:35 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YOU should have half the brains this buffoon has. He's an asshole Zio-Nazi who needs to learn the fine art of shaving. Screw him! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: BUSH FAMILY, American ROYALS!

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Urgent Traficant Update ...

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Our Leaders hold a Gun to Our Head

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mts.net/~scruples/uw/090702.html Our Leaders hold a Gun to Our Head By Henry Makow Ph.D. July 9, 2002 In the early 1950's, the House Committee on Un-American Activities barely scratched the surface of a conspiracy too mind-boggling to comprehend, let alone accept:

[CTRL] High-Tech Transfers To China Continue

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.insightmag.com/news/257504.html High-Tech Transfers To China Continue Posted July 8, 2002 By Zoli Simon The Bush administration has been "as bad, if not worse" than the Clinton administration when it comes to the transfer of sensitive technologies to the

[CTRL] Skolnick: Political Assassinations At LA Airport, Part 2

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general26/politicalassisinationsLA2.htm Political Assassinations At LA Airport, Part 2 By Sherman H. Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.skolnicksreport.com 7-10-2 In analyzing shoot-ups with geopolitical/espionage overtones, political assassination researchers

[CTRL] George Bush Harken Energy Stock Fraud

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/index.cfm George Bush Harken Energy Stock Fraud by AL MARTIN (Excerpted from "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider" by Al Martin -- For more information about the book click here The Conspirators by Al Martin) There were about

[CTRL] In the case of the July 4 LAX gunman, ideology trumps reality

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html July 10, 2002 A MATTER OF FACT In the case of the July 4 LAX gunman, ideology trumps reality The controversy over the fourth of July gunman at LAX, Hashem Mohamed Hadayet, known as "Ali," is typical of any issue involving

[CTRL] Man Made Floods In Texas?

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sanantoniolightning.com/index.html Man Made Flood? Edwards Aquifer Authority Calls Cloud Seeding The Day Storms Began A 'Coincidence' Cloud Seeder Todd Flanagan Confirmed Operation On June 30th; Says 'Fairly Certain' No Connection SAL Staff Despite erroneous reports

[CTRL] Poll- Who's To Blame For Problems In Middle East?

2002-07-10 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://uspolitics.about.com/library/blmiddleeastpoll.htm?PM=ss12_uspolitics 85% say Israel. Will this poll be pulled? Stay tuned. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

[CTRL] Bush Smells Like Old Money

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- **Bush Smells Like Old Money** In which Dubya and Dick snicker at corruption charges, and the war excuse weakens http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2002/07/10/notes071002.DTLnl=fix Of course we're at war. Just look at those horrible lines at the airport. Just look at