[CTRL] The Tyrant Talks to the Chicago Tribune

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: flynbfun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:04:52 - Subject:[Single Pilots] The Tyrant Talks to the Chicago Tribune Send reply

[CTRL] Just wait 'til later

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927774,00.html We don't understand Iraqis, admits US officer Regime not about to collapse, war planner concedes Rory McCarthy in Camp as-Sayliya, Qatar Wednesday April 2, 2003 The Guardian Two weeks into the war in Iraq, some senior

[CTRL] Loyalists in Full Control

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6008-2003Apr1.html washingtonpost.com Residents Say Hussein Loyalists in Full Control Impact of British Siege Described as Minimal By Keith B. Richburg Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, April 2, 2003; Page A19 SHATT

[CTRL] Once the battle begins, all plans are out of the window

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.counterpunch.org/lind04012003.html March 31, 2003 The Pitfalls of War Planning The Duke of Medina Sidonia By WILLIAM S. LIND In planning a war, the most important task is to understand what can be planned and what cannot. In general, the initial disposition of

[CTRL] Uranium: Its Uses and Hazards

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A

Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:21, David Sutherland wrote: 'anal ysis'. I think that says everything about your intentions here. Your anal intent is alarming. Is your dick also made from depleated uranium? Shall you stuff it up Sadam's a***? You'd love that, wouldn't you? Steve

[CTRL] Stalemate

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Analysis http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927902,00.html Arab hopes rest on toppling Saddam and humbling the US Martin Woollacott Wednesday April 2, 2003 The Guardian The chastening of America has begun and the likely outcome of the war is coming into view - one

[CTRL] The New History Ain't Been Yet Writ

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/01/international/worldspecial/01QATA.h tml?ex=1050250043ei=1en=1c4882019d301c1f April 1, 2003 Top Commander Suggests Shiites Haven't Rebelled Because U.S. Failed Them in '91 By JOHN M. BRODER AMP SAYLIYA, Qatar, March 31 The United States,

[CTRL] Soaring heat

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0304/S00037.htm Soaring heat and water shortages in Iraq - UN Wednesday, 2 April 2003, 11:11 am Press Release: United Nations UN relief agencies warn of soaring heat and water shortages in Iraq 1 April As United Nations relief agencies

[CTRL] Genie of Disaster

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=24614 Arab News SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY The War Has Released the Genie of Disaster George Monbiot, The Guardian Published on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 LONDON, 2 April 2003 So far, the liberators have succeeded only in

[CTRL] surreal tales of Iraq war

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Print this article | Close this window April Foolers spin surreal tales of Iraq war April 2 2003 The unsuspecting could have been tricked into thinking the US-led war in Iraq had taken a sudden surreal twist yesterday, as newspapers around the world spun bitter-sweet April

[CTRL] Dirty Laundry Done Dirt Cheap

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.allhatnocattle.net/zelda_morgan_war_correspondent.htm By Zelda Morgan - All Hat No Cattle War Correspondent Dirty Laundry Done Dirt Cheap March 31 2003 Media Alert ... WARNING! ... Code Red. Recently, Microsoft/ GE ... er um, MSNBC/NBC shit-canned Peter Arnett. They

[CTRL] Neocon Con

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/03/04/01.html The Neocon Con: Deception and the Drive to WWIII by Maureen Farrell Nothing Saddam does can save him, says Powell Even if Baghdad readmits United Nations arms inspectors, the United States will still pursue a 'regime change'

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2003-04-02 Thread Ed Raymond
-Caveat Lector- Forwarded I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of one planfor peace. Books, not Bombs won't work. The head mullahs won't let anyone read them. If they do, they poke their eyes out. (Sorry if this offends any non-conservatives. -- I take

[CTRL] Another conservative myth bites the dust

2003-04-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- American Newsreel Another conservative myth bites the dust By DOUG THOMPSON Apr 2, 2003, 06:00 One constant exists in the Internet universe: Pick on something near and dear to conservatives and they will flood your email box with nasty messages, calling you a traitor or

[CTRL] A Question for Discerning Minds re: Iraqui populace are hostages story

2003-04-02 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- Before this war started we were assured that coalition troops would be met by the Iraqui population with candy and flowers... Instead, we've seen the coalition troops come up against stiff fighting, by both Iraqui military and paramilitary forces, and also a goodly number of the

[CTRL] Just How Many Irreplaceable Antiquities Are We Bombing Into Oblivion?

2003-04-02 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- A subject I haven't heard anything about -- just how many priceless and irreplaceable antiquities and/or archeological sites have we destroyed in Iraq? June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational

[CTRL] Baghdad's defences belie death toll fears

2003-04-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- FINANCIAL TIMES Baghdad's defences belie death toll fears By Paul Eedle in Baghdad Published: April 1 2003 17:28 | Last Updated: April 1 2003 17:28 The defences of Baghdad do not look much: sandbagged emplacements outside government offices, trenches in parks and palm groves,

Re: [CTRL] So Called Anti American Emails

2003-04-02 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- Damn, now I'll have to change my phone number. The odd request wasn't mine. On Tuesday, Apr 1, 2003, at 17:27 US/Pacific, William Shannon wrote: Yeah, right below your phone number and an odd (and in some jurisdictions, illegal) request... Bill. A

[CTRL] [JBirch] The UN is not a failure, it's doing what it was designedf for.. (fwd)

2003-04-02 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers

[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] BARIUM = WE and IRAQ are THE ENEMY

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] FW: 26 REASONS why '9-11' was 'THE ENEMY WITHIN', by Dr Horowitz

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] Fwd: Pressure on Artists to Not Protest

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] Fwd: THIS WAR IS NOT WORKING - Peter Arnett on the War and Being Fired

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
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[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Get Ready for the USSA....(The United Soviet States of  America)

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] FW: PayPal charged with breaking Patriot Act

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] How young Marines were made War Criminals and Massacred Civilians at Nasariya

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- How young Marines were made War Criminals and Massacred Civilians at Nasariya Frontlines http://www.sf-frontlines.com "The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy," said Corporal Ryan Dupre. "I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a friggin' Iraqi.

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Unanswered Questions: Group Pledges to Monitor 9/11 Government Commission

2003-04-02 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-

[CTRL] Noam Chomsky: Iraq is a Trial Run

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Iraq is a trial run http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3369sectionID=15 Chomsky interviewed by Frontline by Noam Chomsky and VK Ramachandran; Frontline India; April 02, 2003 Noam Chomsky , University Professor at the

[CTRL] Where is the Moral High Ground?

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- (No war in Iraq - http://pnews.org/) OBJECTIONS TO THE WAR and the FOG OF WAR The coalition forces have crossed the Tigris River which may just be their Rubicon. But for some British soldiers who are objecting to this war they are

[CTRL] (Fwd) 'TORTURE CHAMBER' FOUND

2003-04-02 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- 'TORTURE CHAMBER' FOUND http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3-12278787,00.html A torture chamber used by Saddam Hussein's henchmen has been discovered by British troops in Iraq, according to reports. Cells in a police station

[CTRL] US newspaper fires photographer over faked Iraq shot

2003-04-02 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- ' [This is the print version of story http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s823033.htm] AEST US newspaper fires photographer over faked Iraq shot US newspaper The Los Angeles Times has fired a staff photographer for editing together two photos of a British soldier and a crowd

[CTRL] (more) Dueling for Dollars

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=39113 APFN THE REAL REASON WE ARE AT WAR! Wed Apr 2 13:13:03 2003 208.152.73.199 THE REAL REASON WE ARE AT WAR! http://praesentia.us/archives/000227.html Dollar vs. Euro - Hegemoney. The Federal Reserve's greatest

[CTRL] Los Angeles Times - Editor's Note

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-ednote_blurb.blurb A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease!

[CTRL] From gladhand to backhand

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Posted on Tue, Apr. 01, 2003 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5528914.htm White House power plays anger Republicans BY JAMES KUHNHENN [EMAIL PROTECTED] WASHINGTON - Consumed by waging war, the Bush administration increasingly is giving the

[CTRL] Cannon Fodder, Raw Meat, and the War Hawks

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55427-2003Mar30.html washingtonpost.com War Hawks Blinded by Hardened Hearts By Courtland Milloy Monday, March 31, 2003; Page B01 I think the level of casualties is secondary, American Enterprise Institute scholar Michael A.

[CTRL] SHOCKING EXPOSE OF SO-CALLED 'PEACE' MOVEMENT

2003-04-02 Thread Flash Gordon
-Caveat Lector- So the question here is: which posters on this list are agents (witting or useful idiots) of these organizations promoting Communism, anarchy, large-scale urban rioting, financial disruption, and violent attacks and what is the FBI doing to root them out, arrest, and prosecute

[CTRL] Lessons of Shock and Awe

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030402-102747-7735r Commentary: Lessons of Shock and Awe By Thomas Houlahan From the International Desk Published 4/2/2003 10:54 AM WASHINGTON, April 2 (UPI) -- There has been a great deal of official resistance to the proposition

[CTRL] Gnats and Lions

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Posted on Wed, Apr. 02, 2003 http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/5540077.htm Lesson of Napoleon still valid: A gnat can beat the lion BY RON GROSSMAN Chicago Tribune CHICAGO - (KRT) - At the height of Napoleon's power, Europe lay at his feet. The French emperor

[CTRL] War Strains

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-01-bush-cover_x.htm Strain of Iraq war showing on Bush, those who know him say By Judy Keen, USA TODAY WASHINGTON The public face of President Bush at war is composed and controlled. On TV and in newspaper photos, he is sturdy and

Re: [CTRL] SHOCKING EXPOSE OF SO-CALLED 'PEACE' MOVEMENT

2003-04-02 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Flash Gordon wrote: So the question here is: which posters on this list are agents (witting or useful idiots) of these organizations promoting Communism, anarchy, large-scale urban rioting, financial disruption, and violent attacks and what is the FBI

[CTRL] The Oedipal struggle

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- April 2, 2003 Warring Tribes, Here and There By MAUREEN DOWD http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/opinion/02DOWD.html ASHINGTON The president and his war council did not expect so much heavy guerrilla resistance in Iraq. And they really did not expect so much heavy guerrilla

[CTRL] AFI RESEARCH INTELL.BRIEFING

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2517.htm AFI RESEARCH INTELL.BRIEFING 2nd April 2003 - Christian-Zionist alliance carves up the Arab lands For fifty years the Zionists have occupied Palestinian lands and for more than 35 years the territory of Syria, Jordan and

[CTRL] The Political Compass

2003-04-02 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and

Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
-Caveat Lector- ... and what difference would that make Steve? Do you have a need to be controlled Steve?Now if you'd have done what i asked and gone and re-read the original post you may have been able to come back with an intelligent comment. You may have also gleaned that what was

Re: [CTRL] The coalition's other 'enemy'

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
-Caveat Lector- Arnett has dropped quite a few bloopers ... he's obviously under great pressure ... I've heardhim on radio a few times and he sounded very tired and fatigued (understandably so) ... I think his sacking was an over reaction ... guess some Americans who are very pro the war

Re: [CTRL] So Called Anti American Emails

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
-Caveat Lector- Now, now Billy! Be nice! And remember thecode, "never reveal your sources" -- you old time toilet trawler you! Dave. - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL]

Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
-Caveat Lector- Nice to see a brain that functions at the speed of dark. I guess they don't call you Windgate for nothing. I'm not sure where your homosexual fantasies are heading, but this probably isn't the appropriate forum to express them on. If you need --either help, counselling or

[CTRL] Military rivalry 'causes friendly fire deaths'

2003-04-02 Thread David Sutherland
-Caveat Lector- Military rivalry 'causes friendly fire deaths' 19:00 02 April 03 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition In modern warfare, one of the biggest dangers to troops is not knowing who is friend and who is foe. In the first days of the US and British invasion of Iraq, an

[CTRL] Child abuse,soldiers protest,iraqis return,arabs warn u.s.,civilian deaths, d.u.

2003-04-02 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- scroll for news articles Child Maltreatment 2001 "Key findings include the number of children victimized by abuse and neglect, the number of referrals made to child protective services agencies, statistics about specific types of abuse, and the number of children who die as

[CTRL] Liberation Whether You Want It Or Not

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sart040203.shtml LIBERATION WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY By: SARTRE Is anyone expecting a parade down the Avenue des Champs Elyses? Liberation for Iraq doesnt include a homeland for the Kurds. Liberation from Saddam means Syria can be next.

[CTRL] Bush Admin To AIPAC - Iraq is next

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5528947.htm Posted on Tue, Apr. 01, 2003 Halting Iran nuclear effort 'high priority' for U.S. after war BY TIM JOHNSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] WASHINGTON - When war ends in Iraq, the Bush administration will give

[CTRL] If This Be Treason...let the War Party make the most of it...

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html April 2, 2003 IF THIS BE TREASON then let the War Party make the most of it! Peter Arnett is 'guilty' of real reporting, not sedition While the battlefield success of the "coalition" forces may be the subject of a vigorous debate,

[CTRL] Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraqs nuclear program?

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/033103_who_lied.html c/o http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1 WHO LIED TO WHOM? by SEYMOUR M. HERSH Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraqs nuclear program? Issue of 2003-03-31 Posted 2003-03-24 Last

[CTRL] Neocons in Trouble?

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2003/0303neocon.html Neocons in Trouble? By Jim Lobe March 31, 2003 Editor: John Gershman, Interhemispheric Resource Center (IRC) 0303neocon.pdf [printer-friendly version]   What a difference a week makes. Shortly after the launch of the war

[CTRL] NINE Members Of Defense Policy Board Tied To Defense Contractors

2003-04-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.publici.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=513L1=10L2=10L3=0L4=0L5=0 Special Report Advisors of Influence: Nine Members of the Defense Policy Board Have Ties to Defense Contractors By Andr Verly and Daniel Politi Data by Aron Pilhofer Of the 30 members of the Defense Policy Board,

[CTRL] Sex Rules For The House Gym

2003-04-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- SAFE SEX FOR CONGRESSMEMBERS: A GUIDE http://www.hillnews.com/news/040203/guide.aspx HILL NEWS - An explicit guide to safe sex in the House gym that vividly describes sex acts illegal in 14 states is causing discomfort among some lawmakers. At least one piece of advice deals

[CTRL] (Fwd) [I-S] Grisly truth of police station's real purpose

2003-04-02 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: daisy meme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grisly truth of police station's real purpose http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=386162003 EVERYTHING the marines of 40 Commando saw inside the police station in Abu al-Qassib

[CTRL] Fw: DoD Announces Army Casualty

2003-04-02 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- Vaccine death? JR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: DoD Announces Army Casualty NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of DefenseNo. 192-03(703)697-5131(media)IMMEDIATE

[CTRL] Statement of Mindy Kleinberg to 9/11 Commission - a must read

2003-04-02 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/witness_kleinberg.htm About the Commission | Hearings | Press | Archive

Re: [CTRL] The Sedition Act of 1798

2003-04-02 Thread Mark McHugh
-Caveat Lector- Flash Gordon wrote: -Caveat Lector- SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or [snip] This repugnant law

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Valentin Pavlov, Former Soviet Prime Minister, Dies at 66

2003-04-02 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valentin Pavlov, Former Soviet Prime Minister, Dies at 66 April 2, 2003 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS MOSCOW, April 1 - Valentin S. Pavlov, a former Soviet prime minister who helped lead the failed