Re: [CTRL] Cell Phone Research?

1999-11-17 Thread Edward Ford

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Peter,
Thanks for your reply. Please send direct to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Much appreciation!
Rusty

earthman wrote:

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 I have a collection of emails and links re cell phones.. Where can I send
 them ??

 Peter

 We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
 http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift

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 From: Edward Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:35 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Cell Phone Research?

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  Here's a chance to help a friend of mine. He has asked me to help him
  research the peculiarities of cell phones (he's writing an article on
  the subject). modern marvel, social menace, mind control device, brain
  microwave oven, , etc. Any links to detailed research and outlandish
  claims would be much appreciated.
 
  if anyone can help, its ctrl.
  thanks much,
  rusty-birmingham, al. usa
 
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[CTRL] Cell Phone Research?

1999-11-16 Thread Edward Ford

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Here's a chance to help a friend of mine. He has asked me to help him
research the peculiarities of cell phones (he's writing an article on
the subject). modern marvel, social menace, mind control device, brain
microwave oven, , etc. Any links to detailed research and outlandish
claims would be much appreciated.

if anyone can help, its ctrl.
thanks much,
rusty-birmingham, al. usa

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Re: [CTRL] Scientists Study Aspartame/Brain Cancer Link

1999-08-04 Thread Edward Ford

Hi Bill,
Here is a good link to research on the poison aspartame...

The
Chemical Manipulation of Human Consciousness also
Aspartame
Research Reference Materials and
Aspartame (Nutrasweet)
Toxicity Information Center and
Neotame Toxicity
Information Center but wait there's more
http://www.tiac.net/users/mgold/aspartame/brain.txt
and
Dr.
Olney Feb. 1997 Brain Tumor Update, answering the skeptics! (part 1of 3)
and
Cancer
and Aspartame
There's a hell of a lot more on this poison but frankly I'm burnt on
linking. Hope you find these article enlightening, and stop ingesting this
shit, it WILL kill you.

Rusty

William Shannon wrote:
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In a message dated 8/3/99 2:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here are a few articles on a new study of the well-known link
between
aspartame and brain cancer. >>

==Since when is any like between aspartame and human cancer "well
known"??

Could you produce documentation? Wuold sure like a look!

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles

1999-04-07 Thread Edward Ford

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Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display
any responsibility for His/Her creation. Given His/Her track record, I certainly
wouldn't want Him/Her in a foxhole next to me. Not only do I not know His/Her
sexuality, He/She has shown no interest what so ever in the workings of mankind,
all the way up to and including the death of his/her own son!

The authors bias is appalling and an insult to every person on the planet. You
just gave it the name "homosexual".

If you, 1lls0081 wrote this piece, I urge you to get help. It is bigoted concepts
like these that lead to young black men  being dragged behind cars, and young gay
men to be murdered. Their blood is own your hands.

God help you, but then again given your logic, there's a fat chance of that. But
in this case, I don't blame Him/Her!

eeford

1lls0081 wrote:

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 http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/sci_fi.htm
 http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/homo.htm

 Homosexuals in the Military
 OR Homosexual, Control Fiend, Pedophile

  Homosexuals: Who or What is Really Hiding in the Closet?
   (The Military as an Example)

 Many people would define the homosexual lifestyle
 as one of promiscuity. The reason for this is that
 homosexuals seem to be like the legendary "Peter Pan."
 By refusing to commit to someone of the
 opposite sex, they normally do not have to worry
 about the responsibility of children, much less the
 responsibility of a commitment. Also if they do
 decide to break off the relationship they normally do
 not have to worry about the legal tangles of divorce.
 Should admitted homosexuals that are seen as
 promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and
 unwilling to take on responsibility for other people
 be allowed to serve in the military?

 In the military you have to trust that the person next
 to you is Reliable enough that they won't get you
 killed. The military oath is a promise to defend the
 country. The contract that you are required to
 sign upon being accepted into the military is a commitment.
 Being in the military, means that you are
 responsible for the people you work with and that they
 are responsible for you. What kind of person
 do you want to depend on? Would you rather
 depend on someone that is willing to take on
 commitments of religion and family, or would
 you rather have to depend on someone that has a
 noncommittal lifestyle. By signing up in the military,
 you are signing an agreement that allows other
 people to control your life. So if the people that
 you are allowing to tell you what to do with your life
 were to require that you have to live with a person
 that doesn't seem to care about anything other
 than themselves, it seems as if the concept of trust
 and teamwork might get lost.

 Those same concepts of trust and teamwork are
 concepts the military can not afford to lose. Often
 the military is a large part of the first contact that
 the United States will have with other cultures.
 Since they often have the responsibility of dealing
 with people from other cultures, they need to be
 perceived as stable and responsible. If people in
 the military, are perceived by other countries as
 allowed to have idiosyncrasies such as this, will
 the other countries be enthusiastic about allowing
 our military to help when they have problems.
 The military image requires that the people of the
 military be true to the most stringent standards
 that their culture has. If you can not take pride
 yourself and your own culture, how can you
 understand the pride that someone else has in their
 culture.

 True homosexuals have decided what sex they
 are and what life style they want to follow. True
 homosexuals have seldom if ever been known
 to rape a heterosexual. This is usually, if not always
 done by those that use sex as a control feature.
 These controlling personalities are really in the
 closet! Because if the real truth were known,
 they usually are willing to have sex with any person -
 male or female of any age. These control fiends
 are the type to have a physical relationship with a
 single or divorce mother and also think nothing
 of having a relationship with here male OR female
 child. These control fiends are the ones that think
 that a child (as young as six) is old enough to
 decide their sexual orientation and to have a
 physical relationship, at six, based on that design. They
 refer to the child's parents, as people that have
 a slave mentality, and that want to keep the child
 from making an immediate choice. They are the
 main ones that would like to see homosexuals
 completely accepted since it will be harder to
 question these control fiends at that time.

 Some countries have been sympathetic to the
 American Homosexual. Iceland has an
 overwhelmingly female population - I think the
 current ratio is five females births to every one male
 birth, and 

Re: [CTRL] A Simple Poll

1999-02-14 Thread Edward Ford

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Bill Richer wrote:

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 Dear Friends:
 What Political Party do you belong to?

   Republican   ___x_  Democrat   Other

 Do you consider yourself?

   Conservative    Liberal  x  Moderate

Do you believe that President Clinton is Guilty?

x   Yes No

Do you believe he should have been removed from office?

 x  Yes No

 Any further Comments:

 Please fill these questions out ASAP and send back to me and I'll send results
 out later?

 God Bless
 Bill

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Re: [CTRL] apology

1999-02-03 Thread Edward Ford

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Hi Meg,

I mostly lurk also...it's a tough list, folks are very serious, maybe more so than
the issues. As much as I do not participate, I still "learn" a great deal on this
list, there are little gems strewn here and there, some morsels so fine it is
worth filtering through all the bs, disinfo, misinfo, bias, etc. I suppose I never
expected to find friends on this genre of a list, so I haven't really expected
even civility. I don't bother to participate, emotions run too high for me. Take
what you can, for the rest there's a delete key.

Namaste',
Rusty

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 I'm sorry that my insecure attempt at lighthearted humour appeared to be '
 complaining ' it was never intended that way, I misunderstood what was and
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 have never before been accused of breaking nettiquette, sorry if I annoyed
 anyone - back into lurking I go.

 Meg

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Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?

1999-01-16 Thread Edward Ford

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Teo1000 and all,
Last night on the local 10pm news, I saw a dated news clip from Clinton's 2nd
inauguration, where he was taking the oath of office from the chief justice...the
"gold stripes" were present then...I don't know what the story was referring to
however,  the audio was muted and, I was reading and just glanced up and saw the
stripes, smiled at the conspiracy of it all, and went back to my book. Figured I'd
post the info today, thanks for the lead-in Teo1000.

Rusty

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 In a message dated 1/15/99 7:22:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   In 1994, Perrine played the
  role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in
  the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord
  Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when
  Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is
  performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17
  through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00)
  -- 

 Well, it doesn't say how long afterward it was copied, or whether he ever wore
 it during other proceedings.
 Teo1000

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[CTRL] Y2K going south

1999-01-07 Thread Edward Ford

Gary South's End Of The World
Links And Forums or
http://www.garysouth.com/
ROFLMAO
Rusty


[CTRL] Nat'l Guard, FEMA, and Y2K!!!!

1999-01-06 Thread Edward Ford

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It's only a bump in the road...it may be the biggest hype of the 20th
century...it's just a way for computer people to make moere money...Y2k
is nothing...wake up sheeple

Rusty





  By David M. Bresnahan
  © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

  The National Guard is planning its first
  national mobilization of troops since 1940 in
  preparation for civil unrest resulting from the
  Y2K millennium bug, WorldNetDaily has
  learned.

  The National Guard Bureau in Washington is
  currently formulating plans for a mobilization
  test, in conjunction with the Federal
  Emergency Management Agency. If Y2K
  causes a complete shutdown of all
  communications, the National Guard will need
  a way to mobilize troops, according to several
  officers who believe their careers would be at
  risk if their names were made public.

  These officers spoke separately with
  WorldNetDaily. Each is in a position to know
  about the plans at a national level within the
  National Guard Bureau.

  "What's driving this thing are the folks
  underneath the senior leadership," said one
  officer. "Some of the IT guys and command
  and control guys are the ones who are driving
  this because they see what the problem is,"
  one of the sources told WorldNetDaily in an
  exclusive interview.

  The plan as it is now being designed, will be a
  mock mobilization of all 480,000 members of
  the National Guard in all 54 states and
  territories. Exercise COMEX/MOBEX will be
  conducted without telephone, radio, or
  television to get the word to all guard
  members.

  "This will be a simulated COMM-Out,"
  explained another member of the group. "In
  other words, the standard method of recall, the
  telephone, will not be an option. The driver for
  this exercise is Y2K," she added.

  Concern about potential panic and unrest over
  Y2K failures of communications, power, and
  transportation has prompted the National
  Guard Bureau to plan for the worst. If such a
  scenario occurs, the guard will need to be
  mobilized through some means other than
  standard electronic communications.

  Exercise COMEX/MOBEX will be a test, not
  an actual mobilization. Guard members will be
  contacted, but they will not actually have to
  report.

  WorldNetDaily spoke with several full-time
  guard members who work at the national level.
  Each is an officer, and each is concerned that
  the public is not being properly informed of the
  extent and seriousness of problems -- including
  civil liberties issues -- associated with the Y2K
  computer bug.

  "I've taken an oath, and I don't see some of
  the senior folks following through on their
  oath," explained one officer of his reasons for
  making this known. "Not only is my oath to
  the Constitution, but it's to the people. As far
  as I'm concerned, the faster and sooner people
  are educated on this stuff the less panic will
  ensue."

  Another officer is equally concerned and
  agreed. He pointed out that people panic when
  they are caught unprepared and unaware. He
  says the Clinton administration should be doing
  more to prevent panic.

  "No one with any leadership has stepped
  forward and said we need to take prudent
  steps," he explained. "The Canadians are way
  ahead on this. They've already told their folks.
  They're doing a good job of letting their people
  know what's going on."

  WorldNetDaily has also learned that all
  military and civilian federal employees are
  scheduled to be paid a little differently in
  December 1999. Payroll for January 2000 will
  be paid a month early. One of the officers says
  that is to place guard members in a situation
 

[CTRL] A Dose of Reality-Y2K

1999-01-03 Thread Edward Ford

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000Lr4

or

"Bad
news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad things not happen in
America. "

or here's the text, if you will view full screen, the formatting should
be ok, maybe...kinda like y2k itself...on the link, there are responses
to Paul's post on Ed Yourdon's BBS. Excellent site for Y2k, I might add.

Rusty



 From csy2k - a dose of reality, folks...
. . . .

 From GN's site:

 Comment: People reject bad news. They assume
that bad events are abnormal and good events are normal. They think they
 deserve good news. So, they reject bad news.
They put it out of their minds. They get angry at anyone who sells warnings
of
 bad times ahead. As the prime law of infomercials
says: "You can't sell prevention. You can only sell cures."

 For three decades, 1965 to 1995, senior men
in the IT deparments feared telling senior management that a disaster was
 coming in 2000. They knew what the reactions
would be. "That's crazy." "We'll wait until 1998 to fix it." "You're fired."

 A few companies got started in 1995. Citibank
did. Chase Manhattan Bank did. Neither is compliant today. 1995 was too
late.

 If it was too late for the banking system,
it's too late for everything else.

 If the phone companies go down, the banks go
down, and so do the power companies. The phone companies are far behind
 the banks, according to this report.

 Most companies have deferrred implementing
a multimillion dollar repair.

 Now, having waited, it's too late. Corporate
officers are now admitting that some processes won't be compliant. Which
ones,
 they refuse to say. Later this year, insider
selling of corporate shares will begin. That will be the sign that the
end of an era is
 upon us.

 You have a head start. Don't lose it. It's
almost gone.

 This is from FOX MARKET WIRE (Jan. 2).

 * * * * * * * * * *

 The new millennium and its much-anticipated
computer bug is still a year away but many U.S. companies are already
 throwing in the towel.

 They admit they won't be ready.

 Companies are beginning to make such frank
statements on Y2K risks to cover themselves against possible securities
litigation,
 analysts said. The statements also provide
ammunition for their own suits.

 Companies such as Chevron Corp. and ATT
Corp. say their systems may be vulnerable to significant failures as they
 grapple with the Year 2000 date change. McDonald's
Corp. and DuPont Co. are more confident their machines can handle the
 date change. They are less sure about those
of suppliers and local governments. . . .

 "The fundamental cost of Y2K is the risk of
business interruption,'' said Jeff Ray, a vice president at Compuware Corp.,
a
 leading software testing company.

 Companies have still not done most of the tedious
and costly work to fix Year 2000 computer bugs.

 "It appears that over half the work will be
crammed into 1999,'' said Steven Hock, chief executive of research company
 Triaxsys Research LLC. . . .

 As companies realize they and their partners
may not achieve full compliance, they are planning back-up systems and
looking
 for alternate vendors. . . .

 The technologically complex telecoms sector
ranks dead last among all other industries in progress toward completion
of Y2K
 projects, according to Triaxsys. Also behind
are the utilities industry and the energy sector. . . .

 Industries leading the race are banking, securities
and insurance, all of which began looking at Y2K up to 10 years ago largely
 because of regulatory requirements. Most telecom
companies only began looking at the issue two to three years ago. . . .

 Link: http://www.foxmarketwire.com/wires/0102/f_rt_0102_2.sml

 

 From the above article , you can see that the
work is not getting done, it has not been done and it will not be done,
in time.

 However, we have relative newcomers like Preston
Crawford and Reg Smith and ZB who have read, oh, I'd say about one
 one thousandth as much about Y2K as some of
us. Are they entitled to their opinions, yes. We are not discussing that
 'entitlement'. We are discussing the veracity
of the opinions. They can not discuss the issues, because the conclusion
is bad
 news. In their neanderthal minds they say,
"Good news GOOD, Bad news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad
 things not happen in America. People who say
bad things happen, "BAD" people!"

 I understand their 'anger and their hatred
and their intolerance' of the truth.

 More than a year and a half ago, I said that
they were not moving fast enough. They said they were 'serious'. Yet the
bulk of
 the Fortune 500 had not even finished assesments
until THIS year. The federal government had a budget of $1 billion dollars.
 I laughed at that. Yet these were seasoned
proffessionals. EXPERIENCED and COMPETENT professionals. They budgeted
 $1 billion for 75,000 systems. Do the math.
I sat down with a piece of paper with my nine year old sona nd we went
through
 it so 

Re: [CTRL] Y2K Info

1999-01-02 Thread Edward Ford

Hello all,
There is an excellent article appearing in this months Vanity Fair
Magazine, someone has posted the entire article on the csy2k newsgroup.
Here's the link. It is long but well worth the time.

RemarQ
[Software Year 2000] 12.31.99 The Y2K Nightmare -Vanity Fair- January 1999

Happy New Year to all,
Rusty

"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the
pig."
An old farmer