[CTRL] Freedom limits in the EU

2004-03-25 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- EU set to agree sweeping counter-terror policies Richard Norton-Taylor Thursday March 25, 2004 The Guardian Police, security and intelligence agencies across Europe will have authority to hold and exchange data on individuals - and detain them - under a draft declaration on

[CTRL] Voting

2004-03-21 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Just curious. When I went to vote, theoptical scanning method was used. Little ovals were to be filled out where one wanted to take a position. I wondered why there was no privacy and the person scanning the input into the machine could see who voted for

[CTRL] What is being done to have a one world government

2004-03-21 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- http://emperors-clothes.com/news/french.htm Why French Troops Stood by as Albanians Burned a Serbian Village to the Ground Dispatch from Agence France Presse,21 March EC Comment by Jared Israel[Posted 21

Re: [CTRL] CFTM....Cleland's Viet Nam injuries...all veterans should read.

2004-02-22 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- What we have always suspected...Prudy puts herself in the position of God. It's OK.I do believe Godis compassionate where the mentally ill are concerned. From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prudy LSent: Saturday,

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: . Kerry born dec. ELEVENTH

2004-02-07 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris MilleganSent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:21 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: . Kerry born dec. ELEVENTH-Caveat Lector-

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Where Did all the Kodak Jobs Really Go?

2004-01-25 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- The way it was reported in the papers here is that the job layoff came because Kodak had to work with the change to digital photography. Here in Chicago we have story after story about companies sending jobs to other countries. Primarily I'm socially conservative, but I think we

[CTRL] Wesley Clark

2004-01-25 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60629,00.html Wesley Clark is a Rhodes scholar and a supporter of EU chief Javier Solana, a very interesting combination. A match with Hillary C. as VP would be a dangerous combination for the US as a nation. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION

[CTRL] Coffee, Tea, Handcuffs?

2004-01-14 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- An Australian journalist gets a taste of Department of Homeland Security hospitality http://www.internationalspeculator.com/outrage/index.php www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] zionists

2004-01-09 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Whoayou write ...as well as the Progressives often attempt to marry Protestants whenever possible... Shades of Nazi antisemitic thinking. You might as well add that Jews go after blond blue-eyed Aryan maidens. Jews who have left understanding about the religious aspects of

Re: [CTRL] Zionists DO NOT Represent Jews

2004-01-08 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- For sanity's sake, why would you turn to Shannon to tell you about Jews when you can call the nearest synagogue or go on line and ask your questions at many sites. Life is complicated. Simplistic views come from simplistic people. What all Jews have in common is a long history

Re: [CTRL] radicalmiddle.com

2004-01-02 Thread Zuukie
, 2004 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] radicalmiddle.com -Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:32:39PM -0600 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Zuukie, would you please tell us exactly what on that website

[CTRL] DEBKA file on Saddam

2004-01-01 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Those going to this site will find an unsubstantiated warning about New York being a target in February. If you want to know what Jews are talking about, go to a Jewish site. Italian Il Giornale: Al Qaeda Threatens to Nuke New York on February 2 31 December

Re: [CTRL] DEBKA file on Saddam

2004-01-01 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Are you concerned that if individuals go directly to Jewish sources for information, your garbage posts will be shown up for what they are? From you we get New Age propaganda. By the way, twice when I tried to send this interesting list to CTRL, it was

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Newsletter #48

2004-01-01 Thread Zuukie
s? Isn't that a Jewish thing? And what's the Chassidut? Maybe you could explain? Compleat List Of Liberal Debating Rules:Glad it's "compleat" since we wouldn't want to miss anything. "Compleat?"Not everyone who thinks that we should disengage from Israel is a "lib

[CTRL] radicalmiddle.com

2004-01-01 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Conspiracy? Go to radicalmiddle.com to see thesource of the conspiracies taking place here in the US.Take the time to read the variousheadings. This is a repeat of earlier information. Shannon repeats the same story many times over each day. It would be easy

Re: [CTRL] Protocols Forgery Argument Is Flawed

2003-12-14 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Shannon, I didn't know you were such a scholar of the Protocols that you could post someone's view with such supporting authority. For your edification I decided to post some exchanges between scholars on the protocols. I've not included their names, but I'm

Re: [CTRL] U.S. Adopts New Tactics in Iraq Guerrilla War

2003-12-09 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Prudy, when someone comes to your door with a weapon, planning to kill you, you can talk them into being friends with you as you are quite a talker. Not everyone has that skill and so ends up dead. Perhaps you can start a training course which will help

Re: [CTRL] Gingrich: U.S. Went Off a Cliff in Iraq (DU)

2003-12-08 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Newt Gingrich was never a true Republican. He was a media created Republican, a fact the Young Turks knew when they went after him. From his very beginning as part of the Futurist movement, through his congressional days when he was part of many leftist

[CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- A basic of New Age thinking is that which causes separation from othersis evil. (A very old antisemitic outcry.) According to New Age thinking, all of Israel must fall into line with what New Agers think is for the good. Individuals in Israel, as well as here

Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Zuukie
: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction-Caveat Lector- Dorothy (Zuukie), have you forgotten to take your lithium?You know you're supposed to take it every single day or things like this happen.Take your

Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Shannon has been trying to find my name for a long time, hinting around trying to find information on me. Having been around his type for many years, I learned that to give out other than ideas is to put oneself in jeopardy here on the net and elsewhere. It's an old communist

Re: [CTRL] Putting together the pieces that bring destruction

2003-11-30 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Shannon, you old fart, don't play sucker games withthose who are familiar with your tactics. You just look old and foolish.The garbage you postsmells of decades oldmoldy repeats from the past.If you post anything dealing with current conspiracy material, it's

Re: [CTRL] Christ as a myth

2003-11-26 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- People, people, people. Leave Shannon to his own world of myths about Jews and Israel. Heavens knows what he calls it, but his religion is obsessive and it consumes him as shown by his voluminous posts here. He believes all people must join his religion or he

[CTRL] A truly subversive message in today's world

2003-11-22 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- It's easy to get involved with conspiracy research where we have no power to affect the changes taking place. It is intellectually satisfying. However, it is important to notice that there are people around us who are living lives that oppose the cultural

[CTRL] Note Solana's involvement

2003-11-17 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=464488 November 17, 2003 US agrees to international control of its troops in Iraq By Leonard Doyle and Stephen Castle in Brussels 17 November 2003

Re: [CTRL] For Israel, We Didn't Know Will Be No Excuse

2003-11-15 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- In your true love, one world government under fascist control, there will be no boundaries between countries. Until then, there are passports between countries, and this includes the new one that the sell-outs want to set up. I know thinking in depth is not

[CTRL] Solana

2003-11-15 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- A very unexplored topic here in the US is the development of the European Union and the threat it poses to the United States. Along with this is the unexplored role of Javier Solana. Constance Cumbey,a Detroit lawyer, has been following Solana's activities

Re: [CTRL] Prudy Icy Gust Religious Gynophobia

2003-11-14 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Why don't you go to one of your Arab sites and find the pictures yourself. I get more than a little bored with your "What If" responses. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prudy

Re: [CTRL] Prudy Icy Gust Religious Gynophobia

2003-11-12 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Regarding the cutting down of trees, you might want to look at the rest of the story. Arutz Sheva News Service http://www.IsraelNationalNews.comDelivered Daily via Email, Sunday thru Friday Subscribe (free): http://subscribe.a7.org/subscribe.aspPETITIONERS

Re: [CTRL] Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners...

2003-11-09 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- As I said earlier the Israeli men were supposedly only seen acting in the reported way by one woman who wants to remain anonymous. If, as has been written, others in our government knew even parts of what was to happen, my guess is thatinvestigators wanted to

Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

2003-11-09 Thread Zuukie
List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean McBrideSent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean-Caveat Lector- Zuukie, I posted in this group several days ago the full text of an article which mentions three

[CTRL] Information from Janes

2003-11-09 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Things are heating up between China and Japan. The European Union is forming its own first strike force, an interesting position as Muslims grow in population there. Pressure is being put on Israel to sign its death warrant as a Jewish country byconcessions to

Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

2003-11-05 Thread Zuukie
No we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call. These answers are not very good Zuukie. Prudywww.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substan

[CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

2003-11-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Sean asked me the following questions. My answers follow each question -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sean McBrideSent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:

Re: [CTRL] Third try Replies to Sean

2003-11-04 Thread Zuukie
looking thru binoculars into a parking lot No we have the written words of the police officers who answered her call. These answers are not very good Zuukie. Prudywww.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] 911 - The Israeli Connection (Neil Mackay)

2003-11-02 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Reports indicate that American intelligence had information about the pending attacks but the bureaucratic establishment kept the information from going thru. It is very possible that the Israelis knew of the impending disaster but were unable to get the

Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Kept Off US Streets

2003-11-01 Thread Zuukie
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Kept Off US Streets -Caveat Lector- On Thursday, 30 October 2003 7:23 PM -0700, Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- When it happened to pro-lifers, you said nothing. When it happened to protesters at the Democratic Convention

Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Kept Off US Streets

2003-11-01 Thread Zuukie
November 2003 12:21 AM -0700, Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying you believe in free speech except for ___(fill in the blank with whatever you oppose)? -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Tinnin

Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Kept Off US Streets

2003-11-01 Thread Zuukie
right to speech. - jt On Saturday, 01 November 2003 8:16 AM -0700, Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pro-life movement, specifically the Pro-Life Action League and Joe Schiedler, did all the way to the Supreme Court where they won. It took many, many years, much personal sacrifice and much

Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Kept Off US Streets

2003-10-30 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- When it happened to pro-lifers, you said nothing. When it happened to protesters at the Democratic Convention, you said nothing. Let's see what happens to your complaints. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [CTRL] Fox News Viewers at the Bottom of the Barrel

2003-10-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Any weapons the Iraqishad couldhave beengiven to others or sold during the time we were playing "should we or shouldn't we" games.Anyone operating at Saddam's level wasn't going to be stupid enoughto take on theUS. There are political networks in this world

[CTRL]

2003-10-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- From the Financial Times out of London. EU looking to defence harmony by 2010 By Judy Dempsey in Rome Published: October 4 2003 5:00 | Last Updated: October 4 2003 5:00

[CTRL] Identity cards

2003-10-04 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Again, from the Financial Times of London A necessary bureaucratic tool for Europe By Robert Graham and Raphael Minder Published: October 3 2003 20:31 | Last Updated: October 3 2003 20:31 The idea of a powerful and intrusive administrative machine, combined with petty

[CTRL] International Law

2003-10-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- is in a libertarian law professor's blogAOL link: The Volokh Conspiracy Text URL: http://volokh.com/Quote - with links to the original article:" [Eugene Volokh, 10:35 AM]Signing treaties may erode the Bill of Rights: American decisions to sign on to

Re: [CTRL] Occult Symbolism: As American as Baseball

2003-10-01 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Would you care to repeat your post, just sticking to what you consider facts and eliminating all of your emotional opinions? It's obvious you are passionate aboutyour very slanted beliefs regarding Christians. Your very emotional posts, when mixed withyour

Re: [CTRL] Paranoid? Israel Seeks Removal Of Saudi F-15's

2003-09-10 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Prudy, trust between countries is fragile. Human lives are at issue on both sides of the line. Saudis kill Israelis. Israeli's kill Saudis. Saudis then kill Americans because they have been taught that Americans support Israelis. And there you sit at your

Re: [CTRL] Hitler and the Secret Societies

2003-09-07 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Well, I guess if we are to go down the New Age/Nazi path, people like Evola are needed to talk intellectually about how Hitler was not reallyconnected with the not-open-to-the-public occult groups so suckers are not scared off. A very easy search of the net

Re: [CTRL] Holy Genes Conspiracy

2003-09-07 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- It's not a matter of genes or blood because once a person converts, they are a member of the Jewish community, no matter what bloodline or gene pool they bring into the community. It's a matter of the commitment to a moral belief system which binds people together. If someone

[CTRL] From Townhall

2003-09-07 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Whether one is on the left or right, this is an important article regarding air safely. Dead is dead no matter whether one is on the right or left. Pilot to Passengers: "I'm unarmed"Paul Jacob (archive) September 7, 2003 | Print | Send Suppose

Re: [CTRL] Holy Genes Conspiracy

2003-09-07 Thread Zuukie
- * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens ** On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Zuukie wrote: -Caveat Lector- It's not a matter of genes or blood because once a person converts, they are a member of the Jewish community, no matter what bloodline or gene pool they bring

Re: [CTRL] Cult of the Antichrist

2003-09-07 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Do you ever research what you talk about? Jews are not obsessed about Jesus and the topic comes up rarely. Christians are not obsessed with Judaism, though they watch what is happening as a result of knowing that monotheism is being attacked. It's antisemites who are obsessed

[CTRL] Solana says Roadmap live

2003-09-06 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Solana says roadmap alive BEIRUT (AFP) - EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana dismissed claims by Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat on Wednesday that the Middle East roadmap for peace was "dead". The peace

Re: [CTRL] Banned Israeli Spymaster Back in U.S.

2003-09-05 Thread Zuukie
Elizabeth Claire Prophet's group were doing the same thing as the America First people? Different fronts...different names.same pot of stew.This is insanity. Keep making silly connections and coming to your wild conclusions all you want...it exposes you. Have a nice weekend "Do

[CTRL] Let's get down to facts

2003-09-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- I brought this over from Hank Roth's site. It was needed to provide "the other side of the story."

Re: [CTRL] Poland - Europe's First 'Zionist State'?

2003-09-04 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- If that's what it takes to become a Zionist state, then Poland will know what it feels like to be in the midst of the Arab network called the European Union. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [CTRL] Banned Israeli Spymaster Back in U.S.

2003-09-04 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Still networking with those New Agers Shannon? I had a suspicion that it's still going on, so I went and checked out the site where I learned I could master Occult Laws and all kinds of New Age things. New Age is antisemitic. All fits in. The Denver Spiritual Community

Re: [CTRL] Israeli Sleeper Agents Mobilizing For 9/11 Anniversary!

2003-09-03 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Would you rather havethe followinghappen in the US? Do people in the US even realize this is happening in Israel? Israelis know this is happening and can happen in the US to Jews and others. Shannon, you live in a world of words where terrorism is not on your

Re: [CTRL] Israeli Sleeper Agents Mobilizing For 9/11 Anniversary!

2003-09-03 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- We need to face the fact that Muslim leadership with their bloodlust has promoted terrorism around the world. Muslim leadership is addicted to killing without reprisals enough to stop them. Decency, fear of God, civilized behaviornone of it is in their souls. They allow

Re: [CTRL] Protocols of Zion is the Illuminati Blueprint

2003-09-01 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Shannnon, Is this the Illuminati group that you posted information on? I didn't know you knew about the link between the Illuminati and the Theosophists? http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/prkoenig/html/history.htm Ordo Templi Orientis'Caliphate' History of Ordo

Re: [CTRL] Zionists Target Children's Author

2003-08-31 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Shannon, there was no terrorist leader on that bus that carried the Jews which was targeted by the murderer. It was an easy target. There was no reason to target that bus except to create a fear in the Jewish community. Are there Muslims being killed in this

Re: [CTRL] Zionists Target Children's Author

2003-08-31 Thread Zuukie
by making deals with the Nazis? Yes. The historical evidence shows it. Should they have tried to make these deals?Oh dear Zuukie, you neglect to mention the Zionist leaders handpicking those they saved, the military fit and the wealthy. They left the old, poor, mentally ill...to d

[CTRL] Homes in Mexico

2003-08-31 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Illegals canbuy here in America with no fear, but Americans have to fear buying homes in Mexico. Something isnot very reciprocalhere. Monday, November 6, 2000 Be careful buying home in Mexico Diana Washington ValdezEl Paso Times The recent case of U.S.

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Semitic Attack A Hoax

2003-08-31 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Please do explain the hoax aspect of this story.Your headingdoesn't logically fit with the story. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William ShannonSent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 1:11

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Semitic Attack A Hoax

2003-08-31 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Did I miss reading she was convicted of something? By the way, the organizational linkage between the Muslims who are terrorizing Isreal, the Nazis, the fascists, the antisemities and the occultists is very clear. Even now in 2003. I say organizational

Re: [CTRL] Success!! Zionism Loses An Adherent! One At A Time...WE WILL WIN!

2003-08-30 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Sounds like an 18 year old who has discovered the world of conspiracyinformation and is rebelling against mommy and daddy. I hope she checks in five years from now when she starts to fill in the details from both sides. That sweetie is not on your side

Re: [CTRL] Zionists Target Children's Author

2003-08-30 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- I wouldn't suggest censorship. I would say there should be a book written from an Israeli child's view point showing how thePalestinian that you trust today will kill you tomorrow. It would show how the Israeli child is being taught moral values, being taug;ht

Re: [CTRL] Just the facts...

2003-08-26 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Oh Shannon, you really should read a valuable book called How to Lie With Statisics. It's a classic. Here is a response to one of the statistics you posted. Anyone looking at the organization source for the article you posted should note that the sources are very leftist and

[CTRL] Hamas and International Law

2003-08-26 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- On Hamas "Freedom Fighters": The View From International Law 20 August 2003 Even now, even after repeated Hamas suicide-bomb attacks on Israeli buses, pizza restaurants, ice-cream parlors, kibbutz nurseries and

[CTRL]

2003-08-24 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Blavatsky's Theosophy was antisemitic. It was the originating movement of Lucis Trust, and today it is still extremely active around the world. Like Lucis Trust, there are many group and individuals following this belief system. While I was unable to find the

Re: [CTRL] POWER OUTAGE TRACED TO DIM BULB IN WHITE HOUSE

2003-08-18 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Posted here last Friday by Eric Hoffsten. -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William ShannonSent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] POWER OUTAGE

[CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews

2003-08-18 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Written by a friend: Where this gets interesting is the UN has recently called for international restrictions on the practice of religion, but only against those religions who will not alter their stance on homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia,

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy by New Agers against Christians and Jews

2003-08-18 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- The difference is I'm not promoting Lucis Trust material as valid.I'm warning people about it.Being better written, it has more staying power than the Freedman rant will ever have.In addition, they are geared to different audiences. Anyone at the UN who took

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Case for World's 5th Largest Economy Seceding from the Union

2003-08-17 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Isn't going to happen, but it does remind me of Callenbach's book Ecotopia, the Turner Diaries or maybe even the Celestine Prophecy. California knows if it separated, it would have to go to war with Mexico who would want it back into their fold. Oh well

Re: [CTRL] Benjamin Freedman's Amazing Warnings

2003-08-17 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Benjamin Freedman "Neo-Nazi" Financier Unknown to the general public, Freedman, an heir to the Beechnut food-chain fortune, financed the neo-Nazi publications of Conde McGinley, a New Jersey editor known as the leading

Re: [CTRL] Benjamin Freedman's Amazing Warnings

2003-08-17 Thread Zuukie
and yet it's amazingly relevant to these times too.Got a problem with that "Zuukie?"Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These

[CTRL] Just a note

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- As this is the only board I've been posting to, it's interesting to note that I've been placed on an Islamic list. Ok folks, whoever you are, I'm willing to read other sides of the controversy, but I must delete anything you send me in Arabic as I don't read

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- If you take community institutions and relationships, family, acquaintances, friends, children, the schools, etc. out of the picture you might be right. If those two consenting adults find a box somewhere in the outback and stay in it forever and ever, you might be right. Tell

Re: [CTRL] Catholic Hitler With Nazi Photos!

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
iew... But it comforts our souls to know that if, as Catholics, we became anti-Semites, we owe it to the teachings that the Church has promulgated over the past twenty centuries." Dave. - Original Message - From: Zuukie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sa

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- The site you refered us to says: Human evolution is a puzzle made up of thousands of fossil pieces, and the Chart of Human Evolution (below) shows the major pieces of that puzzle arranged in a likely solution. OK.. The site is honest and you are supposing that likely means

Re: [CTRL] U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion (Bacon)

2003-08-14 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- In 1982 a book titled The Homosexual Network, Private Lives and Public Policy, by Enrique T. Rueda came out. Rueda was a Catholic priest. The 680 page book is packed with organizational names, individual names, links, etc. A 114 page chapter titled Religious Organizations and

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages

2003-08-11 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- June, my goodness, just how does one separate out those laws you think are based on superstition? Do we just see which laws you like and call the rest off as based on superstition? If it's a basis for civilized society but is mentioned in a religious text are

[CTRL] Utopian ideas

2003-08-03 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Utopian ideas, secular or religious (Christian, Islamic, Jewish, New Age) may be intellectually interesting, but when adopted by those who want to take those views and impose them on others without discussion, there is a real problem. It's hard to tell the difference between

[CTRL] More from Lee Penn

2003-08-03 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- My comments: The first part of this piece is about the labyrinth which may not be of interest if you haven't seen this push. I characterize the labyrinth as walking around in circles while change is taking place. Others see it as spiritual. The last part

[CTRL] More from Lee Penn

2003-08-03 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- The first part of this piece is about the labyrinth which may not be of interest if you haven't seen this push. I characterize the labyrinth as walking around in circles while change is taking place. Others see it as spiritual. The last part deals with

Re: [CTRL] More from Lee Penn

2003-08-03 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Of course, he's a French New Ager withvery strange beliefs.Putting in "Le Pen, National Front and occult" into google produces an interesting, even for me, set of information. New Age=Nazi resurgence. Shannon, you're predictable. -Original

Re: [CTRL] Gassed Kurds

2003-08-02 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- From Circle of Fear by Hussein Sumaida, 1991, Brasseys "Saddam still intended to be the God of the Dead. There were other nuclear projects at Hammam Ali and Irbil, which were to the west, nearer Mosul. Just to be sure, Saddam was still manufacturing other

Re: [CTRL] Catholic Hitler With Nazi Photos!

2003-08-01 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- I can only refer others to the book The New Anti-Catholicism, the last acceptable prejudice" May 2003. The New Agers have said they would turn monotheists against each other and destroy all sides of monotheismthe easy way. I would suggest that more effort is

[CTRL] URI

2003-07-31 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Lee Penn has sharedhis articleon the URI, and I felt it was important enough to share with as many people as possible. New Age: One world government. One world religion. Pagan thinking infiltrated the religious communities in Nazi Germany. It is

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2003-07-28 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Here, dear friends, is Holocaust Denial in action. Just what are you going to do about it. It was posted by William Shannon on a ConspiracyTheoryResearchList. You can join in veryeasily. It takes almost no effort to subscribe.After subscribing you can opt out

Re: [CTRL] Oh Zuukie

2003-07-28 Thread Zuukie
] Oh Zuukie -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/28/2003 1:00:05 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here, dear friends, is Holocaust Denial in actionYes, join Raul Hilberg, Gerald Reitlinger, Yad Vashem official Shmuel Krakowski, Yehuda Bauer, Arno J. Mayer, Jean-Claude

Re: [CTRL] Kosher Conservative Warns Mel Gibson's Movie May Be Undoing Of ADL

2003-07-26 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- I was just wondering what one of these posts would like like if all of the emotionally loaded words were blocked, so I tried it and am sharing it.It's difficult to have dialogue around emotionally loaded words as they represent personal viewpoints that may or

Re: [CTRL] Kosher Conservative Warns Mel Gibson's Movie May Be Undoi...

2003-07-26 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- There are many websites whichcall what they doHistorical Revisionism. What makes them different from normal academic research? 1. Academic research, though short of perfect, allows for discussion of conclusions. Various viewpoints based on angles of research

Re: [CTRL] Kosher Conservative Warns Mel Gibson's Movie May Be Undoi...

2003-07-26 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Hey Shannon, the Islamic population also uses kosher labeling as a determination of foods that are acceptable. And Muslims and Orthodox Jews are not the only ones. Why not let capitalism determine whether the companies want to go thru the kosher labeling process? Or are you

[CTRL] Constance Cumbey on Solana

2003-07-26 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- Constance Cumbey shared this information on Solana. Since she is far ahead of common information on Solana, I would suggest that otherscheck this information out.Solanais a major sponsor of the one world government part of the New Age movement. It's arrogance

Re: [CTRL] A Rush of Dittos

2003-07-22 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- It was liberal Phil Donahue's company that put Limbaugh on the air. He was a provision made for dissidents. He started out exposing a lot, which gained his audience. Jerry Falwell's newsletter in the '80s did the same. Then came the die off of anything resembling real

[CTRL] CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-21 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- Steve, I see you've moved into phase two of New Age. Are you really so sure that all of the New Age planning wasn't done by the global Nazi types who have been working to move society away from the monotheistic religions? From a new text book, copyright 2002, Religions in the

[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-20 Thread Zuukie
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- The wicky wacky world of these conspiracy researchers deserves attention. We start out with someone who said they will write for American Free Press which is a Carto deal. We then move to Carto describing the IHS people. As a side note it's interesting to note

Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-20 Thread Zuukie
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many of Shannon's postings reflect the New Age treatment of Christianity as their main enemy. We can only surmise that he feels the same way.Oh thanks for the laugh today...glad Zuukie has found a playmate for her wacky, "Jewishly" paranoid ma

Re: [CTRL] Rense and Savage...a combo

2003-07-13 Thread Zuukie
this kind of obedience. Steve On 12 Jul 2003 at 21:30, Zuukie wrote: New Age comes in thru both the right and the left, but once it's in, percentage wise, there is no deviation allowed. Just as in the Nazi period, no deviation from New Age thinking is allowed

Re: [CTRL] Rense and Savage...a combo

2003-07-13 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- What's the matter? Can't you face it that one of the favorite sources of posters to this board is really supported by a New Age cult leader? Not all anti-Zionists are antisemites, but all antisemites are anti-Zionists. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research

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