Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head

1999-01-02 Thread Gerry Forbes

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Linda Minor wrote:


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Now,  in  her  latest  communique,  Mills'  source  has  revealed
something  so  inherently  obvious  that the wonder is it was not
discerned until now.  He is quoted as saying, "The Euro goes into
effect today.  Once this  happens,  kiss  good-bye to the Federal
Reserve."  With the advent of  the  "Euro,"  a  unified  European
currency,   the  U.S.  dollar/Federal  Reserve  Notes  face  real
competition as the world's reserve currency of choice.

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Repost from last year:

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Subject: Occult roots of the EU - EU as Hitler's legacy
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No doubt Europhiles will dismiss this interesting connection. Hitler's
Plan for Europe was to establish a Europe of Regions.  The plan for the
European Community or the  "Europaischewirtschaftgemeinschaft" was
published in 1942.  This has been dismissed by Europhiles, and since any
mention of the EU being a parallel to Hitler's plan produces the
accusations of xenophobia, Germanophobia, etc. let's introduce another

[snip]

Bruce Rich in his book on the World Bank, Mortgaging The Earth,
relates that the original plan for the World Bank was an idea
of Hjalmar Schacht, the Nazi finance minister. It was broadcast
as Nazi propaganda so the British went to John Maynard Keynes to
come up with a better idea; he frankly admitted that he couldn't,
so they doctored Schacht's plan a bit and spun it off as their
own concept.

The original Nazi (and Allied) plan for the "World Bank" (if I'm
not mistaken there is no organisation called the World Bank -- it
still officially goes by its original title: The International
Bank of Reconstruction and Development [IBRD] ) bears no resemblance
to the monster we see today. It was originally designed to rebuild
Europe after the devastation of WWII. When this was pre-empted by
the Marshall Plan its original president, John J. McCloy, a regular
Mr. Fixit for the powers-that-be, would go on to become High
Commissioner for Germany just in time to commute a few death sen-
tences and exonnerate Krupp, Farben et. al. (Later, of course, he
would sit on the Warren Commission and pave the way into China for
Nixon/Kissinger/Bush/Clinton). The bank was converted to its
current purpose of making sure that a steady flow of resources
*and* capital moved from the Third World to the First.

It has been some time since I read the book but the date 1942
(as given for the Europaischewirtschaftgemeinschaft) sounds
about right for the "World Bank" plan as well.

Gerry

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Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head

1999-01-01 Thread KA

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All this stuff brings back to mind some stuff I remember reading in
1992...

Now, this is TOTALLY 'anecdotal'...I haven't saved the publications (not
feeling the need to)...

But 1992 was a personally traumatic year...and the presidential election
was NOT a priority of mine...I only knew I wanted Bush out, but I
definitely didn't like Clinton -- I didn't know a heck of a lot about him
at the time, but had read the year before that he was 'hand picked' by
the Bildebergers to replace Bush...

As a sort of 'mental vacation' when I took a week's vacation that year
and wanted some 'beach reading', I bought some astrology magazines...
each one was ostensibly published by a separate publisher, and the
articles were ostensibly written by different authors...

...but I noticed they all seemed to be saying the exact same thing
regarding the November elections, and beyond...to the point that the
articles on the election seemed to be written by one person...

Now perhaps this has something to do with any validity of astrology...
if an astrologer looked at the charts of all the 'players' in the
election, one would expect they'd all 'see the same thing'...

But if you ever read any of these rags, it quickly becomes obvious that
they NEVER agree on ostensibly the same subject...like, the month's
horoscope for any one sign is completely different depending on the rag
one is reading...so the fact that they all agreed to the minute detail
seemed 'strange' at the very least...and perhaps reflected an underlying
'agenda'...

Anyways, they all agreed that Clinton would win in November...but they
also ALL agreed that he wouldn't finish his term...that if he 'managed'
to make it to the 1996 election, that it would be his 2nd term he
wouldn't complete...

Because of this prediction, they spent a lot of time analyzing Gore's
chart, it was here that some discrepancy in 'interpretation' arose, some
predicting he'd complete Clinton's term and go on to win the next
election, some predicting that Gore himself would have problems
completing his term...

When they conjectured as to WHY Clinton wouldn't complete his term of
office (whether it was the 1st or 2nd term), assassination came in at the
bottom of the list, altho there WAS some feeling that health may have
something to do with it...but all seemed to feel that scandal of some
sort would be the main cause, a scandal which would involve Hillary
Clinton (and perhaps Al Gore)...

So when all this started to 'shake out', I had a strong feeling of 'deja
vu'...

Now, I'm open minded about astrology...but my gut feeling was (and is)
that all these supermarket astrology rags had an agenda to push, and that
their predictions in 1992 didn't reflect the science/art of astrology as
much as it did 'someone' pulling the strings beyond the sight of the
audience...that whomever had decided that Clinton would run and win in
1992 also was going to make sure he didn't stay in office...


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Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head

1999-01-01 Thread JJSANJ

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Very interesting article!
Could you please explain what "Faction1 and Faction2" are? I'm not familiar
with these terms, but have seen them before in some other article.
Thanks for your time and effort in responding.
Sincerely,
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head

1999-01-01 Thread Hilary Thomas

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head


Brian,

The "source" in this article also talked about brown envelops.  Is this the
Firth Column a al Chuck Hayes?

Hilary

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[CTRL] Euro (Re: [CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head)

1999-01-01 Thread Che

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At 12:52 PM 1/1/99 EST, Gerald Harp wrote:

IMHO, the Euro will prove the most popular.  This is because the US is
becoming less modern as time passes.  The key to societal (national) strength
is for knowledge and wealth to widely exist over the entire population.

Could you please quantify this?  A quick check of census figures and the
C1A World Factbook he difference in average income between Germany and
Greece is greater than the difference between Connecticut and Mississippi
(the difference between west  east Germany is even greater).

Or were you referring to the difference in income levels between the
richest and poorest within a country?  In Europe these are held lower by
high rates of taxation and social welfare, i.e. income redistribution.

Europe will never be as cohesive as the US due to differences in language.
But I don't see this as being much of a factor in the Euro being a popular
trading currency.  Trading ties and currency stability will factor much
higher.  Look for the Euro to be popular in Europe, Africa, possibly
Western Asia, and the Dollar to maintain its strength in Eastern Asia and
the Americas.

Che

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[CTRL] Source: Fate Of Clinton Being Decided At Hilton Head

1998-12-31 Thread Brian Redman

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SOURCE: FATE OF CLINTON BEING DECIDED AT HILTON HEAD


(CNNS, 12/31/98) -- One of the  King's  jobs is to smile and wave
to  the  public,  thereby  reassuring  most  of  them.   So,  the
"commoners" have lately been reassured with film footage of  Bill
Clinton  taking a moody walk along the beach, and of Bill Clinton
playing golf.

Not so reassuring is  the  latest  report  received by "Ru Mills"
(pseudonym) from one of her deep sources.

"Ru Mills" has  communicated  with  this news service (Conspiracy
Nation News Service) the fact that, today, she received  a  phone
call from a source who had seemingly disappeared.  Not heard from
for  years,  Ms.  Mills' source suddenly phoned her and let loose
with a barrage of new information.

Says Mills:  "My Source told me that the final decision regarding
the  POTUS  [President  Of  The  United  States] would be made at
Hilton Head this weekend.  You  know  the Hilton Head bash... the
one that gathers all the movers and shakers of the  domestic  New
World  Order crowd together, and gives them their marching orders
for the next year?"

Mills elaborates further that she asked her source "if that meant
the POTUS was  going  to  step  down.   He  laughed and said, 'Be
prepared for anything.' And again he went silent."

According to Mills' source, "We are at a time  in  history  where
things could begin to unravel very quickly."

Mills writes that she quoted an old Bob Dylan song to her source,
and that her source responded with his own  cryptic  revision  of
another Dylan tune.

  Come congressmen, senators, please heed the call,
  Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall.
  For he who gets hurt will be he who has stalled.
  The battle outside ragin'
  Will  soon shake your windows and rattle your walls,
  For the times they are a'changin'.

  The line it is drawn, the curse it is cast.
  The slow one now will later be fast.
  As the present now will later be past,
  The order is rapidly fading.
  And the first one now will later be last,
  For the times they are a'changing.

Reportedly, Sherman Skolnick agrees  with  Ru  Mills on a partial
interpretation:  "The slow one" seems to refer to Dennis Hastert,
slated as next Speaker of the House.

This  news  service  (CNNS)  has  enough  respect  for  Ru Mills'
background to deem information received from her to be worthy  of
consideration.  Her information often proves to be, subsequently,
correct  or at least on-target.  For example, Mills was the first
to break  the  story  on  warring  factions  --  "Faction  1" and
"Faction 2" -- within the intelligence community.

Now,  in  her  latest  communique,  Mills'  source  has  revealed
something  so  inherently  obvious  that the wonder is it was not
discerned until now.  He is quoted as saying, "The Euro goes into
effect today.  Once this  happens,  kiss  good-bye to the Federal
Reserve."  With the advent of  the  "Euro,"  a  unified  European
currency,   the  U.S.  dollar/Federal  Reserve  Notes  face  real
competition as the world's reserve currency of choice.

The key development in the  dethronement  of Bill Clinton and all
he represents, according to Mills' source, is linked to  the  Cox
Report  which has dramatically lifted the veil on secret dealings
between U.S.  political/industrial  elites  and  Red China.  "The
report of the sale of U.S. technology to China has done  it  all.
It   will   unravel   the   treason   of  the  Bush  and  Clinton
administrations.  People forget the  Bush  family are the biggest
investors in China.  Don't  think  this  transfer  of  technology
started with Clinton.  It started with Bush."

Mills further quotes her source as follows:

  We  couldn't  bring  it  out  earlier because there weren't
  enough honest Democrats or Republicans in Congress.  Do you
  remember back when  we  were  delivering brown envelopes to
  all those members of congress?  And  do  you  remember  how
  many  of  them  suddenly  decided not to run, due to family
  matters?  It  has  taken  us  years  to  get  all  the dirt
  accumulated.  Bill Clinton was our biggest ally in  all  of
  this.

  In his zeal to  cover  his  butt and obstruct justice, Bill
  Clinton  has  turned  many Democrats away from him and into
  our arms.  And what do we show them when they ask?  We show
  them  the  truth.   We let them know the whole story, about
  how Bush and Clinton have been two sides of the  same  coin
  since the mid 80's.

  Clinton   decided  that  he  was  going  to  blackmail  the
  Republicans by trotting  out  Ollie  North's old Enterprise
  Group and indicting them all on treason and  drug  dealing.
  Too bad he picked the wrong men to blackmail.  He chose men
  who  were  rogues,  not  loyal  members of the Elite Racket
  Club.  The rogues joined with  Faction  2, and soon it will
  all be history.

And Mills' source  warns:   "Be  prepared  for  anything.   Heart
attacks,