Re: [CTRL] Going Bananas
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 02/07/2000 10:37:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I strongly doubt this story...necrotizing fasciitis is a form of strep, and doesn't have to 'live' on banana skins (or any other fruit, for that matter) to cause a threat...it is naturally found on the skin of every human being. It usually doesn't cause a problem, as long as it doesn't get into an open wound, and even then usually doesn't turn necrotic as long as suitable measures are taken...washing the wound and keeping it clean with fresh bandages (but making sure not to bandage so tightly as to cut off air to the wound, as the germs thrive in anaerobic conditions). I find I doubt it also. I get a health letter called Health Gazette by a Dr. Alexander Grant. In November-December 1995 (Vol 18, No. 10) was the following information: Flesh-Eating Disease, Latest News Caused by a type of streptoccal bacterium, this sinister skin infection often begins with a painful, tense, redened area at the site of a monor wound, and then rapidly extends deeply into the underlying tissues and muscles, which rot and fall away to expose the bones. Once the process gets established and shock sets in, the fatality rate is about 30-70%, and many patients lose a limb. In attempting to prevent spread through the body, surgeons must repeatedly cut away affected tissue before it becomes totally dead, as well as giving antibiotics in large doses. Not surprisingly, the disease is most common in diabetics and alcoholics, whose immunity is impaired, but many victims have been in normal health. However, according to doctors at Otago University Medical School, New Zealand, many of these normal people have been taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). These are the drugs, such as ibuprofen, that are so widely used for arthritis and all kinds of pain, and which can now be purchased without a prescription. It makes sense that NSAIDs encourage the disease since they not only lessen pain and inflammation, but also interfere with the body's ability to limit tissue descruction by bacteria. Thus, an expert from our federal Center for Disease Control (CDC) points out, the recent increase in number of small children with flesh-eating disease coincides with the marketing of a liquid pediatric preparation of ibuprofen. Meanwhile, we can try to protect ourselves from this disease by using acetaminophen instead of NSIDs, and by washing all our skin wounds, however trivial, and then applying antiseptic. Source: SCIENCE NEWS (148:234,'95) This was legit news at the time, and I have not heard anything about it since, either yes or no. Still, I sent the info to all my friends and relatives when I received this, and I do not take NSAIDs myself. Corroboration or contradiction welcomed. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Going Bananas
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Even if it does appear on Urban Legends, I will be giving bananas a rest for a while. Peter From: Dr. Joseph Puleo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Bananas...]] Warning: Several shipments of bananas from Costa Rica have been infected with necrotizing fasciitis, otherwise known as flesh eating bacteria. Recently this disease has decimated the monkey population in Costa Rica. We are now just learning that the disease has been able to graft itself to the skin of fruits in the region, most notably the Banana which is Costa Rica's largest export. Until this finding scientist were not sure how the infection was being transmitted. It is advised not to purchase Bananas for the next three weeks as this is the period of time for which bananas that have been shipped to the US with the possibility of carrying this disease. If you have eaten a banana in the last 2-3 days and come down with a fever followed by a skin infection seek "Medical Attention"!!! The skin infection from necrotizing fasciitis is very painful and eats two to three centimeters of flesh per hour. Amputation is likely, death is possible.. If you are more than an hour from a medical center burning the flesh ahead of the infected area is advised to help slow the spread of the infection. The FDA has been reluctant to issue a country wide warning because of fear of a nationwide panic. They have secretly admitted that they feel upwards of 15,000 Americans will be affected by this but that these are acceptable numbers. Please forward this to as many people you care about as possible as we do not feel 15,000 people is an acceptable number. Manheim Research Institute Cynthia Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 770-319-0909 Fax: 770-319-1802 We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Going Bananas
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I strongly doubt this story...necrotizing fasciitis is a form of strep, and doesn't have to 'live' on banana skins (or any other fruit, for that matter) to cause a threat...it is naturally found on the skin of every human being. It usually doesn't cause a problem, as long as it doesn't get into an open wound, and even then usually doesn't turn necrotic as long as suitable measures are taken...washing the wound and keeping it clean with fresh bandages (but making sure not to bandage so tightly as to cut off air to the wound, as the germs thrive in anaerobic conditions)... I suspect that a modicum of research into this story will reveal it for the hoax that it is... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Going Bananas
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Several shipments of bananas from Costa Rica have been infected with necrotizing fasciitis, otherwise known as flesh eating bacteria. Recently this disease has decimated the monkey population in Costa Rica. We are now just learning that the disease has been able to graft itself to the skin of fruits in the region, most notably the Banana which is Costa Rica's largest export. as a biologist - I would be asking how the bacterium actually eats and feeds itself - as it appears to secrete proteolytic enzymes to dissolve its meat - it cannot be having too much fun on a banana skin which is probably mostly cellulose/plant material... it may, however form spores [hibernate] in which case the bananas are not technically 'infected' ie. invaded and that the bacterium has simply hitched a ride without doing the banana any damage. the idea of grafting itself onto the banana is 'interesting' - it implies a biochemical compatibility with cellulose - which someone with basic microbiological details on it could answer in two seconds. I think that if it did like cellulose - it would be the most incredibly virulent plagues that humanity has ever known instead of a rarity. no book, newspaper, piece of wood, autumn leave, flower or grass would be safe if its surviving as a fruit pathogen - then it must be oxidising the sugars, however if it eats meat - is this not an anaerobic process ? ie. reduction, to me - that seems a bit of a contradiction. [but I don't have the accredited qualified opinion on that] It may have been put onto bananas by an infected monkey - but would have to compete for moisture and nutrition against faster growing and better adapted bacteria and fungii - therefore don't fancy its chances much as it would be so outnumbered. do we know that it likes monkey flesh ? I think that any environmental biologist worth their degree could confirm or deny that this is an urban legend - I don't think that any academic microbiologist would be confused as has been suggested - but we still need to ask them. It may also be that this stuff was put out by the European Trade Organisation in an escalation of the banana war with the USA... perhaps a tavistock experiment on the stock market - or an inspired scam - maybe there's a couple of freighters full of african bananas sitting in florida or LA somewhere ?? :) Andrew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
