Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- Moore is not to be trusted based on his voice inflection in my early days of UFO speaker monitoring. He is very pleased with himself and speaks from a position of externally-imposed authority, i think. but what do i know???) On 2 May 01, at 10:21, Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- MAJESTIC 12-THE ULTIMATE SECRET In December 1984, via the mail, in a plain brown envelope, to private UFO investigator Bill Moore and his film producer friend, and associate, Mr. Jaime Shandera. Mr. Bill Moore is a well known private UFO investigator, and is co-author, with Charles Berlitz, of the book The Roswell Incident. Unknown to the public is the fact that Bill Moore was recruited as an agent of the CIA. Maybe it is generally unknown, but some of us had it figured out years ago. The following post drew some nervous denial from Friedman on various mailing lists, but he didn't convince me. In the acknowledgments section of The Roswell Incident are several people I met in Herman, MN (home of the world's most famous bachelors a few years ago). Some are school administrators, fellow teachers, coaches and some are farmers. Regular yokels, if you will. If anyone has any recent information on Moore I would like to see it. From Feb. 1998: To: RISKERS/NUFOIA Mailing List Subject: The Front: William L. Moore From: UFO Sky Searchers International From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Stonehouse) From: SearchNet's IUFO Mailing List In the 1976 movie The Front, Woody Allen played a dimwit hired to put his name on scripts authored by blacklisted writers in the 1950s. Is Bill Moore also a front for unnamed writers in his published books The Roswell Incident and The Philadelphia Experiment, both possibly works of disinformation? Both were allegedly coauthored by Charles Berlitz, but it is accepted that he agreed to have his name ascribed to get publishers to take the books. Consider that Moore was teaching drama and French at Herman High School in Herman, MN (pop. 600) in the 1970s after leaving military service, when he met Stanton Friedman at a lecture at the University of Minnesota-Morris, 14 miles away. Herman is about as rural as America gets. I know, having spent much time there. My ex-wife is a 1977 graduate of Herman High School and in her school yearbooks there is Moore, just the average teacher. Soon after meeting Friedman Moore became the author of The Roswell Incident, even though Friedman was much more qualified to write such a book, having done the lion's share of research on Roswell. Yes, Moore did additional research and his books are entertaining, but when Moore announced at a UFO conference in 1989 at Las Vegas that he had helped intelligence agents with the Paul Bennewitz problem, feeding Bennewitz false information, he was dismissed by much of the UFO community. Even more puzzling is this: Moore had two books published in a two-year period, and in the 18 years since then, has had no other books published. As a military veteran myself, I know how recruits are approached early in their career if they are thought to have potential for use by intelligence agencies. And once an asset, you are always potentially available for use by the agencies, even as a civilian. Is this the real story behind Moore and his books? Friedman knows the answer to that question, as he probably recruited Moore for just such a purpose. Perhaps Moore's 1989 revelation in Las Vegas was his way of ending his association with the agencies, perhaps out of disgust for what he had been asked to do. Whether any of this is accurate or not, the publication of the book The Roswell Incident has kept researchers running around in circles for almost 20 years trying to confirm its validity. As disinformation it is probably the best ever produced. Posted by: Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- MAJESTIC 12-THE ULTIMATE SECRET In December 1984, via the mail, in a plain brown envelope, to private UFO investigator Bill Moore and his film producer friend, and associate, Mr. Jaime Shandera. Mr. Bill Moore is a well known private UFO investigator, and is co-author, with Charles Berlitz, of the book The Roswell Incident. Unknown to the public is the fact that Bill Moore was recruited as an agent of the CIA. Maybe it is generally unknown, but some of us had it figured out years ago. The following post drew some nervous denial from Friedman on various mailing lists, but he didn't convince me. In the acknowledgments section of The Roswell Incident are several people I met in Herman, MN (home of the world's most famous bachelors a few years ago). Some are school administrators, fellow teachers, coaches and some are farmers. Regular yokels, if you will. If anyone has any recent information on Moore I would like to see it. From Feb. 1998: To: RISKERS/NUFOIA Mailing List Subject: The Front: William L. Moore From: UFO Sky Searchers International From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Stonehouse) From: SearchNet's IUFO Mailing List In the 1976 movie The Front, Woody Allen played a dimwit hired to put his name on scripts authored by blacklisted writers in the 1950s. Is Bill Moore also a front for unnamed writers in his published books The Roswell Incident and The Philadelphia Experiment, both possibly works of disinformation? Both were allegedly coauthored by Charles Berlitz, but it is accepted that he agreed to have his name ascribed to get publishers to take the books. Consider that Moore was teaching drama and French at Herman High School in Herman, MN (pop. 600) in the 1970s after leaving military service, when he met Stanton Friedman at a lecture at the University of Minnesota-Morris, 14 miles away. Herman is about as rural as America gets. I know, having spent much time there. My ex-wife is a 1977 graduate of Herman High School and in her school yearbooks there is Moore, just the average teacher. Soon after meeting Friedman Moore became the author of The Roswell Incident, even though Friedman was much more qualified to write such a book, having done the lion's share of research on Roswell. Yes, Moore did additional research and his books are entertaining, but when Moore announced at a UFO conference in 1989 at Las Vegas that he had helped intelligence agents with the Paul Bennewitz problem, feeding Bennewitz false information, he was dismissed by much of the UFO community. Even more puzzling is this: Moore had two books published in a two-year period, and in the 18 years since then, has had no other books published. As a military veteran myself, I know how recruits are approached early in their career if they are thought to have potential for use by intelligence agencies. And once an asset, you are always potentially available for use by the agencies, even as a civilian. Is this the real story behind Moore and his books? Friedman knows the answer to that question, as he probably recruited Moore for just such a purpose. Perhaps Moore's 1989 revelation in Las Vegas was his way of ending his association with the agencies, perhaps out of disgust for what he had been asked to do. Whether any of this is accurate or not, the publication of the book The Roswell Incident has kept researchers running around in circles for almost 20 years trying to confirm its validity. As disinformation it is probably the best ever produced. Posted by: Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- Saba, Can you give the source of this material? There might be some info of value here but the author makes one very critical mistake when he/she writes: According to eye-witness testimony, the CIA agent in charge of this covert operation, wearing the uniform of an AF Colonel, was William C. Cooper. Note: The information in the preceding paragraph was supplied by an eyewitness who participated in the covert operation described, working side by side with the CIA agent in charge. This witness testifies that this is the same William C. Cooper, who has been prominent since 1988 in the civilian UFO movement. I don't know who William C. Cooper is, but the Bill Cooper who authored Behold a Pale Horse and many UFO documents on the internet is William Milton Cooper. This is according to a cassette of his book that says copyright 1991 William Milton Cooper that I have in my hand right now. This may be an easily-explained mistake but I would like to ask the poster about it. Dale Stonehouse A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- Dale I will try to check this out; if you want some fun today, get into a search engine and go after Jason Society.. Phineas Priests were also a brotherhood in the Manhattan Projectselect few, and the answer to a lot of things you find at Spandau and in diary of Albert Speer including mention of a bible watchword code and calendar. Look for race to Mars now for everything old, is new again..guess we need the race to keep people on their toes - but it is obvious to me anyway, who sabotaged the space program. Read Acts 19 sometimes and consider certain concordances call this acts of sabotage.even unto the bookburning and the Huntress Diana - linked to her death also.why? Consider little John John died during big Moon Shot Celebration and Teddy was almost murdered too on that bridge.we are dealing with prinipalities and powerslittle John John never did anything to do that. So when I get back later will do some checking...my brother in law was THOR Chief...Joint Chief of Staff and had worked with Vandenberg before he died so young .. communists have tried to halt our space program using Civil Rights and sabotage. So Remember the Apollo and the Challenger and the Russian trawlers taking off minutes before the Challenger blew.Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego. John Glenn knows what happened; without a doubt and they even stole his golden medals for maybe he flew too near the sun like an Icaras - yellow birds. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
