Re: [CTRL] June Learning About RC teaching on Birth Prevention
and either do understand their position, or are, more likely, are still acting on what has been passed down to them from their parents, but do not really consciously support the premisis on which their position is founded (this accounts for the continual drift of Christians into liberalism and Libertarianism, because they are often converted after running into an articulate advocate of those principles who pry them away from their principles, tenuously held in the first place. Anyway, this tension between Christians and Jews is primarily what Fr. Fahey's books are about, he holding that this tension is in the nature of things due to the reality of the Messiah having come 2000 year ago.High level, international intrigue is another matter, involving only a handful of people, relatively speaking. It is this smaller groups of, primarily top-level Jews and top-level Masons, that I refer to when talking about international banking. So when we talk about the Vatican being co-opted by the forces of International banking in 1958, I hope it is clear I am not pointing a finger at any large group, the Jewish people or anybody else. Naturally, the great men of the earth want to control every government, including the one in Vatican City. So . . .If the Roman Catholic Church has really been a man-made concoction, then it is deservedly falling of its own weight as mankind matures ?? -- on the other hand, if the Roman Catholic Church is divine -- it will rise again unexpectedly and gloriously, after a chastisment, so that even the greatest doubters will be inspired to believe. Stay tuned . . . . .Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald Harp Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] June Learning About RC teaching on Birth Prevention -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/99 3:59:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God in this world so as to be happy with Him in the next for all eternity. The second, but subordinate, end of marriage is for the mutual support of the spouses and to allay concupiscence (libido). This is the teaching but is it complete? Catholics are mostly ignoring the prohibition on artificial means of birth control. What the Church teaching does not seem to account for is the benefit of a deepening of psychological intimacy between responsible adults that comes about through having sexual intercourse. The big problem is that folks are not measuring up to the greater responsibility of sex with birth control. Society becomes more hedonistic and unmindful that pregnancies occur even with birth control devices and that, as the cliche goes, you are sleeping with whoever your partner is sleeping with so that STDs are having a field day. Of course the let it all hang out attitudes especially prevalent among the young unmarrieds of 15-25 years don't help. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] June Learning About RC teaching on Birth Prevention
-Caveat Lector- May I recommend the book "CATHOLIC PROPHECY" by Yves Dupont from TAN books in Rockford Illinois? This book details a time, which is apparantly our time, when the poeple of the time our shocked at the teaching that was once taken for granted throughout Western Civilization. Yes, using CONDOMS violates human nature and is also detrimental to men and women. The marriage act should only take place within marriage (that's one's first valid marriage, not the second, third, fourth, or fifth) and always in such as way to make the transmission of life possible if God so wills. The first end of marriage is the raising of children to know, love, and serve God in this world so as to be happy with Him in the next for all eternity. The second, but subordinate, end of marriage is for the mutual support of the spouses and to allay concupisence (libido). ... Now you may think this is nuts, I'm nuts, or whatever you want to think about what I "dare" to say about this subject --- but I am accurately conveying the constant teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, which remains unchanged today. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KA Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] nurev learning about birth control pills -Caveat Lector- On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Jim Condit Jr. wrote: Most women using birth control of their own choice? So much the worse. These women know deep down they're violating their nature, One would presume your condemnation extends to women who use the diaphram or have their tubes tied, also? How DARE you presume to state you 'know' what women's 'nature' is, let alone whether we are 'violating' it or not... just as the men who use it, Presumably this means using condoms I asked her if everything was OK. She said she had to keep a close monitor because of her birth control pills she was taking. Anecdotal? Yes. But the And only relevant to the late 60s To be fair, why don't you also tell us about all the women who have severe health problems due to pregnancy? June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
